You're the GM

[Laimbeer]

This offseason (omitting obvious decisions like picking up Dre and KCP's options)

Which of these team options do you exercise?
Butler $4.5M
Tolliver $3.0M (400k buyout)

Would you let these players go for TPE's?
Meeks $6.3M, $6.5M
Jennings $8.3
Martin $1.3M

[DBC10]

Out of all those, I think Martin would be the only one I move or let go. Butler is a decent spot up guy when he gets minutes and Tolliver has been the energy guy while his shot has been streaky a lot of times.

Jennings I might let go, depending on how well he recovers.

[Blkbrd671]

This offseason (omitting obvious decisions like picking up Dre and KCP's options)

Which of these team options do you exercise?
Butler $4.5M
Tolliver $3.0M (400k buyout)

Would you let these players go for TPE's?
Meeks $6.3M, $6.5M
Jennings $8.3
Martin $1.3M

Butler, Tolliver, meeks


trade jennings and martin.

[sfballa13]

1. Offer DeMarre Caroll - 21M over 3 years (last year is a team option)
2. Offer Mike Dunleavy - 12M over 2 years (second year is a team option)
3. Pick up the team options for Butler / Tolliver
4. Resign Reggie Jackson and Greg Monroe for whatever it takes
5. Sign Joel Anthony to a vet minimum deal
6. Try to trade Jennings, Martin, Meeks sometime during the offseason or next year

Jackson / Dinwiddie - Jennings
KCP / Meeks
Carroll / Dunleavy - Butler
Monroe / Tolliver
Drummond / Anthony

Jackson and Monroe can be traded especially with the cap going up with the new TV deal

Even if we draft a SF there would be no pressure for him to perform. If our pick surprised us, Carroll could be transitioned to the bench and would be an expensive but stellar back up at 8M for two seasons.

With this plan we dont play the waiting game with Draymond Green or Tobias Harris who both will probably be matched by the Warriors and Magic respectively. By that time Carroll will be gone. We spend 14M on Caroll and Dunleavy for one season and hope to get someone better next offseason or via trade.

[aad]

No way we pick up butler option hes done

[DBC10]

1. Offer DeMarre Caroll - 21M over 3 years (last year is a team option)
2. Offer Mike Dunleavy - 12M over 2 years (second year is a team option)
3. Pick up the team options for Butler / Tolliver
4. Resign Reggie Jackson and Greg Monroe for whatever it takes
5. Sign Joel Anthony to a vet minimum deal
6. Try to trade Jennings, Martin, Meeks sometime during the offseason or next year

Jackson / Dinwiddie - Jennings
KCP / Meeks
Carroll / Dunleavy - Butler
Monroe / Tolliver
Drummond / Anthony

Jackson and Monroe can be traded especially with the cap going up with the new TV deal

Even if we draft a SF there would be no pressure for him to perform. If our pick surprised us, Carroll could be transitioned to the bench and would be an expensive but stellar back up at 8M for two seasons.

With this plan we dont play the waiting game with Draymond Green or Tobias Harris who both will probably be matched by the Warriors and Magic respectively. By that time Carroll will be gone. We spend 14M on Caroll and Dunleavy for one season and hope to get someone better next offseason or via trade.

This is probably realistic. No way we're landing any big free agent nor snatching an RFA away from any of the big teams right now.

And yes, keeping Monroe and Jackson and trade them later is a far better option than losing them for nothing. They'll still retain some value rather than we get some trash FA pickup with the 10 mil we save by letting him walk.

[MotownMadness]

Yeah I wouldn't pay Butler 4.5 mil again next season. Tolliver has been in a pretty bad slump but I guess you have to pick that one up. But that's 7.5 mil of dead weight at the moment right there we could ditch if we let both walk. Tolliver is definitely worth that 3 mil though if he can get back to playing how he was.

[MotownMadness]

-Let Butler walk, pick up Tollivers option
-Monroe will probably leave but I'm not maxing him out anyways. We've seen enough for 5 years now of nothing but empty stats so it's best for both sides to just move on at this point.
-Try to trade Jennings for minimal salary to add capspace now
-Draft Hezonja at around 8th, He's a nice looking prospect with great shooting and athleticism
-Sign Danny Green, Brings defense and 3 point shooting along with a lot of good playoff experience, should be able to get him for somewhere between 7-9 per
-Sign Draymond Green, elite defender, can stretch the floor, play in transition, play in the half court can just do it all at the moment and will fit in well here and he also will have some great playoff experience. Assuming it will take somewhere between 12-14 per to make it happen though but his impact in the game cannot be over looked.
- Need too somehow add a decent backup center though. Drummond can still be a bit dumb and have to sit extended mins due to foul trouble or hacking which could be a killer losing Moose.

Jackson/Dinwiddie
KCP/Meeks
Danny Green/Hezonja (let him come off the bench to get used to the NBA for a while)
Draymond Green/Tolliver
Drummond/FA

Teams improved in defense, 3 point shooting and athleticism. More a Stan Van type of roster.

[pistonsbball]

SF - Offer Middleton 12mil/yr, if not try and get Carroll or Jeff Green for cheaper.

PF - Offer Monroe 4/60, Millsap 3/40 or Tristan Thompson 4/50. Get a cheap stretch 4, maybe Teletovic. Sign and trade Moose for Anderson if no other option.

Sign Koufos or Seraphin as a backup C if we lose Moose.

Obviously make big offers to Green, Butler or Leonard. Doubt we land any of them though.

Offer Jackson 3/45. Keep Tolliver and offer Butler an assistants gig.

[MrBigShot]

I'll post a more specific plan later on when we know what pick we have and seeing how Reggie progresses over the next 20 games or so. But I definitely agree with MotownMadness on going after Danny Green & Draymond Green. And maybe Wesley Matthews. And Middleton.

I definitely don't think distributing our space to a bunch of rotation players like Stan tried to do this off season will get us anywhere. We need someone who can fill one of our starting positions long-term from the draft, and an FA who can do the same for another position.

I don't think we should even bother to offer Butler and Leonard. No way SA and Chicago don't match anything.

[sfballa13]

-Let Butler walk, pick up Tollivers option
-Monroe will probably leave but I'm not maxing him out anyways. We've seen enough for 5 years now of nothing but empty stats so it's best for both sides to just move on at this point.
-Try to trade Jennings for minimal salary to add capspace now
-Draft Hezonja at around 8th, He's a nice looking prospect with great shooting and athleticism
-Sign Danny Green, Brings defense and 3 point shooting along with a lot of good playoff experience, should be able to get him for somewhere between 7-9 per
-Sign Draymond Green, elite defender, can stretch the floor, play in transition, play in the half court can just do it all at the moment and will fit in well here and he also will have some great playoff experience. Assuming it will take somewhere between 12-14 per to make it happen though but his impact in the game cannot be over looked.
- Need too somehow add a decent backup center though. Drummond can still be a bit dumb and have to sit extended mins due to foul trouble or hacking which could be a killer losing Moose.

Jackson/Dinwiddie
KCP/Meeks
Danny Green/Hezonja (let him come off the bench to get used to the NBA for a while)
Draymond Green/Tolliver
Drummond/FA

Teams improved in defense, 3 point shooting and athleticism. More a Stan Van type of roster.

Middleton will be matched by the Bucks unless we give up 13M or more which he is not worth

No way in hell are the Warriors letting Green walk away. Only way that would happen is if he has a stinker playoff series and they go out in the first round and even then that's a pipe dream since the Warriors can simply match just like New Orleans did with Gordon even though he wanted to go to the Suns and told the Pelicans' management at the time.

I could see maybe the Lakers taking a flyer on Jennings but who else would just give us TPE for nothing to take on Jennings. We are stuck with him until he shows he can at least lace em up.

Butler's option would be picked up because that's 4.5M of salary that could be used in a deal later around deadline time.

I do like the idea of going after Danny Green but he will not be had for cheap

Instead of giving Middleton 13M wouldnt your rather give Carroll and Dunleavy 14M for this season and Carroll 8M for next season until we find someone better than either of them??

[DCintheD]

Draft Stanley Johnson (if at 6-8), KAT (if top 3)
Offer Draymond the max
Wave good-bye to Monroe (very funny how people would rather max Monroe over Draymond...)
Re-sign Jackson
bring back Butler and Tolliver

Jackson, Jennings, Spencer
KCP, Meeks
Stanley, Butler
Draymond, Tolliver
Drummond, ?

[Notanoob]

I'd have to figure out the numbers for what to offer other guys first, but I'd probably decline Butler's contract. He's been better than I expected, and can occasionally provide more than just decent spot-up shooting. But I don't know how much longer he can be productive and we'll probably need the money.

I'd keep Tolliver, he's been a good backup for us and there are only so many legit stretch 4s in the league. Dude has hustled well for us.

I'd keep Meeks and Jennings, but Martin can go, no particular interest in an end-of-bench guy. I think we'll be fine going with Jennings and Dinwiddie at PG next year. Meeks has had a rough season, especially after the injury, but I think that he'll bounce back. We need shooters and for his career, Meeks has been a very good shooter.

Free Agents
SFs: Draymond Green, Kris Middleton, Demare Carroll, Wesley Matthews, Gerald Green, K.J. McDaniels
PFs: Draymond Green, Amir Johnson, David West, Paul Millsap

Green should be our priority in free agency because he's the best free agent that we have a reasonable chance of getting. The Dubs have said that they'll match anything, but that may just be a tactic to make other GMs look elsewhere. Plus, he's interested in coming home; most big time FAs have no connection here.

Amir Johnson is a guy who we should also really look into regardless of what else happens. He is a veteran, he can shoot the ball, defends well and can play either big position. He'd be a great fit next to Drummond or being the first big off the bench. Only scenario where I wouldn't bother going after him is if we keep Monroe and land Green, since Green and Toliver will split the backup 4 minutes and Monroe will be our #2 center, so there'd be no room, obviously.

I prefer Johnson to West and Millsap primarily because neither of those guys can play center. Plus, West is older and unlikely to leave the Pacers (IMO), and Millsap is small and could decline very quickly if his athleticism starts to wane. Still, they're vets who can shoot and shouldn't get torched on defense. Ideal options if Monroe walks.

Middleton is very young still and plays excellent defense to go with being a sniper from 3. Since he's restricted, it might be hard to pry him from the Bucks, but GMs might not have caught up on how valuable he is (keeping in mind his impact numbers by plus/minus type stuff in spite of not filling up the stat sheet). We'd have to be willing to give him a fairly big contract, but he's a top-notch wing defender who provides great spacing- imagine if guys like Tony Allen could shoot! Shell out for him if Green is gone or we don't land a SF in the draft.

Carroll is simply a feasible option at SF in free agency. A veteran 3 and D guy. I list him ahead of Matthews and Green because I feel like those guys are better suited to playing SG full time, and of course Matthews is coming off an ACL tear and Portland will want to keep him. McDaniels is simply a guy who I liked in the draft and produced decently in Philly. Rockets probably won't fight to keep him too hard, and we can offer him minutes.

I don't think that we need to go after any guards. Jennings and Dinwiddie should be fine, and KCP/Meeks is fine too, especially if KCP develops some more and Meeks bounces back. Obviously set at C and just looking at a backup to eat minutes if Monroe walks, shouldn't be hard.

[sc8581]

-Let Butler walk, pick up Tollivers option
-Monroe will probably leave but I'm not maxing him out anyways. We've seen enough for 5 years now of nothing but empty stats so it's best for both sides to just move on at this point.
-Try to trade Jennings for minimal salary to add capspace now
-Draft Hezonja at around 8th, He's a nice looking prospect with great shooting and athleticism
-Sign Danny Green, Brings defense and 3 point shooting along with a lot of good playoff experience, should be able to get him for somewhere between 7-9 per
-Sign Draymond Green, elite defender, can stretch the floor, play in transition, play in the half court can just do it all at the moment and will fit in well here and he also will have some great playoff experience. Assuming it will take somewhere between 12-14 per to make it happen though but his impact in the game cannot be over looked.
- Need too somehow add a decent backup center though. Drummond can still be a bit dumb and have to sit extended mins due to foul trouble or hacking which could be a killer losing Moose.

Jackson/Dinwiddie
KCP/Meeks
Danny Green/Hezonja (let him come off the bench to get used to the NBA for a while)
Draymond Green/Tolliver
Drummond/FA

Teams improved in defense, 3 point shooting and athleticism. More a Stan Van type of roster.

Middleton will be matched by the Bucks unless we give up 13M or more which he is not worth

No way in hell are the Warriors letting Green walk away. Only way that would happen is if he has a stinker playoff series and they go out in the first round and even then that's a pipe dream since the Warriors can simply match just like New Orleans did with Gordon even though he wanted to go to the Suns and told the Pelicans' management at the time.

I could see maybe the Lakers taking a flyer on Jennings but who else would just give us TPE for nothing to take on Jennings. We are stuck with him until he shows he can at least lace em up.

Butler's option would be picked up because that's 4.5M of salary that could be used in a deal later around deadline time.

I do like the idea of going after Danny Green but he will not be had for cheap

Instead of giving Middleton 13M wouldnt your rather give Carroll and Dunleavy 14M for this season and Carroll 8M for next season until we find someone better than either of them??

I just don't agree with any of this.

Torn on Tolliver, it's a good price but that $3M could be used to bring in a good 3rd big, I think Tolliver is best as a 4th big.

[sfballa13]

-Let Butler walk, pick up Tollivers option
-Monroe will probably leave but I'm not maxing him out anyways. We've seen enough for 5 years now of nothing but empty stats so it's best for both sides to just move on at this point.
-Try to trade Jennings for minimal salary to add capspace now
-Draft Hezonja at around 8th, He's a nice looking prospect with great shooting and athleticism
-Sign Danny Green, Brings defense and 3 point shooting along with a lot of good playoff experience, should be able to get him for somewhere between 7-9 per
-Sign Draymond Green, elite defender, can stretch the floor, play in transition, play in the half court can just do it all at the moment and will fit in well here and he also will have some great playoff experience. Assuming it will take somewhere between 12-14 per to make it happen though but his impact in the game cannot be over looked.
- Need too somehow add a decent backup center though. Drummond can still be a bit dumb and have to sit extended mins due to foul trouble or hacking which could be a killer losing Moose.

Jackson/Dinwiddie
KCP/Meeks
Danny Green/Hezonja (let him come off the bench to get used to the NBA for a while)
Draymond Green/Tolliver
Drummond/FA

Teams improved in defense, 3 point shooting and athleticism. More a Stan Van type of roster.

Middleton will be matched by the Bucks unless we give up 13M or more which he is not worth

No way in hell are the Warriors letting Green walk away. Only way that would happen is if he has a stinker playoff series and they go out in the first round and even then that's a pipe dream since the Warriors can simply match just like New Orleans did with Gordon even though he wanted to go to the Suns and told the Pelicans' management at the time.

I could see maybe the Lakers taking a flyer on Jennings but who else would just give us TPE for nothing to take on Jennings. We are stuck with him until he shows he can at least lace em up.

Butler's option would be picked up because that's 4.5M of salary that could be used in a deal later around deadline time.

I do like the idea of going after Danny Green but he will not be had for cheap

Instead of giving Middleton 13M wouldnt your rather give Carroll and Dunleavy 14M for this season and Carroll 8M for next season until we find someone better than either of them??

I just don't agree with any of this.

Torn on Tolliver, it's a good price but that $3M could be used to bring in a good 3rd big, I think Tolliver is best as a 4th big.

Have you taken a look at the available big men this offseason or for that matter any free agents

It's pretty slim pickings

[sc8581]

Middleton will be matched by the Bucks unless we give up 13M or more which he is not worth

No way in hell are the Warriors letting Green walk away. Only way that would happen is if he has a stinker playoff series and they go out in the first round and even then that's a pipe dream since the Warriors can simply match just like New Orleans did with Gordon even though he wanted to go to the Suns and told the Pelicans' management at the time.

I could see maybe the Lakers taking a flyer on Jennings but who else would just give us TPE for nothing to take on Jennings. We are stuck with him until he shows he can at least lace em up.

Butler's option would be picked up because that's 4.5M of salary that could be used in a deal later around deadline time.

I do like the idea of going after Danny Green but he will not be had for cheap

Instead of giving Middleton 13M wouldnt your rather give Carroll and Dunleavy 14M for this season and Carroll 8M for next season until we find someone better than either of them??

I just don't agree with any of this.

Torn on Tolliver, it's a good price but that $3M could be used to bring in a good 3rd big, I think Tolliver is best as a 4th big.

Have you taken a look at the available big men this offseason or for that matter any free agents

It's pretty slim pickings

I have no problem giving Middleton $13+M

Nobody will take a flyer on Jennings while he's still injured

I think Danny Green will be cheaper than you think

I'm not at all convinced the Warriors will match on Dray Green

Picking up the option on Butler would be completely pointless

[GSR121]

Pick up the option on Tolliver. Let Butler walk. Trade Meeks and Martin for TPE or better fitting players. Keep Jennings, because of injury we would get little or nothing for him anyway. If Jennings comes back strong try him and Jackson together. Jackson is 6'6" and I feel he could play SG as well or better than PG. Jennings is an exp. contract next season, no reason to sell low.

Monroe is as good as gone I think. Boston and the Lakers both have stated they would make a max offer. Best case would be a sign and trade with Boston for Sullinger. Seems he is in the dog house and maybe the Celtics are ready to move on.

New York is rumored to be willing to offer Jackson a max deal. That's a real tough decision. He could be great, he could be a slightly better Rodney Stuckey.

I would make a max offer to Jimmy Butler on day one. The Bulls have three days to either mach and commit most of their cap space (most likely), or let him go (GREAT! but probably not happening). At best we have our SF of the future, at worst one more team less to bid against us for other FA's.

Sign Wes Mathews to be our SF. He has the same injury as Jennings but his game is less reliant on athleticism and I don't think it will have as great an impact on him as it might on Jennings.

Replacement for Monroe is tough. Love said he is probably going to opt out. If so I would rather pay him Max money than Monroe.

[sc8581]

Pick up the option on Tolliver. Let Butler walk. Trade Meeks and Martin for TPE or better fitting players. Keep Jennings, because of injury we would get little or nothing for him anyway. If Jennings comes back strong try him and Jackson together. Jackson is 6'6" and I feel he could play SG as well or better than PG. Jennings is an exp. contract next season, no reason to sell low.

Monroe is as good as gone I think. Boston and the Lakers both have stated they would make a max offer. Best case would be a sign and trade with Boston for Sullinger. Seems he is in the dog house and maybe the Celtics are ready to move on.

New York is rumored to be willing to offer Jackson a max deal. That's a real tough decision. He could be great, he could be a slightly better Rodney Stuckey.

I would make a max offer to Jimmy Butler on day one. The Bulls have three days to either mach and commit most of their cap space (most likely), or let him go (GREAT! but probably not happening). At best we have our SF of the future, at worst one more team less to bid against us for other FA's.

Sign Wes Mathews to be our SF. He has the same injury as Jennings but his game is less reliant on athleticism and I don't think it will have as great an impact on him as it might on Jennings.

Replacement for Monroe is tough. Love said he is probably going to opt out. If so I would rather pay him Max money than Monroe.

I stopped reading at Jackson is 6'6 because well, he's not and the notion of him at SG with no shot is ridiculous.

[kurtis48239]

I'll post a more specific plan later on when we know what pick we have and seeing how Reggie progresses over the next 20 games or so. But I definitely agree with MotownMadness on going after Danny Green & Draymond Green. And maybe Wesley Matthews. And Middleton.

I definitely don't think distributing our space to a bunch of rotation players like Stan tried to do this off season will get us anywhere. We need someone who can fill one of our starting positions long-term from the draft, and an FA who can do the same for another position.

I don't think we should even bother to offer Butler and Leonard. No way SA and Chicago don't match anything.

Like usual,I agree with most everything you post.

[princeofpalace]

1) Draft Justise Winslow at #8- the kid is going to be an elite perimeter defender, he can shoot the 3 well and can get to the rim. He’s a great fit and is underrated IMO.

2) Sign SG/SF Gerald Green to a 3/12 deal. Green can really shoot the basketball and can play D, although he’s a bit inconsistent on defense sometimes- he would be an ideal fit on this team and shouldn’t cost too much.

3) Sign PF/C Jason Smith to the vets min. Smith can hit a jumper and hustles on D.

4) Sign F Quincy Miller to the vets min. SVG says he’s developmental, so I think that means he gets reupped in the offseason.

5) Sign PG Mo Williams to a 2/10 deal. Williams is getting older but he can really shoot the basketball and can run an offense. He has been great for the Bobcats and I think he could have similar success here as Detroits’s starting PG.

6) Sign and Trade Reggie Jackson (4-48 deal)/Jodie Meeks to Brooklyn for Joe Johnson.

7) Sign Greg Monroe to a 5 year max

2015-2016 Detroit Pistons
Williams/Jennings/Dinwiddie
KCP/Green/Johnson/2nd rounder
Johnson/Winslow/Martin
Monroe/Tolliver/Smith/Miller
Drummond/Monroe/Smith

This is a team that can make the playoffs IMO. This team has been most successful when its featured 3 perimeter players to spread the floor for DrumRoe. It is painfully obvious that Detroit needs to back to what works and acquire some perimeter players who can shoot consistently. With the injection of Williams, Green and Johnson to the perimeter- the team would be adding guys who can really shoot the basketball and who have a track record of being consistent shooters. Williams and Johnson could also provide much needed leadership to this team. Winslow, although likely to have rookie struggles, could help shore up Pistons perimeter defense and also spread the floor.