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Jeff Van Gundy: Future Coach of the Pelicans?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 3:07 am
by sfballa13
Man, how huge would this be for us if Jeff Van Gundy got the head coaching job for the Pelicans
SVG then picks up the phone, "Hey bro wanna do a Monroe for Anderson S+T?"
Plausible?
Re: Jeff Van Gundy: Future Coach of the Pelicans?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 3:12 am
by joedumars1
JVG, is a crazy old man
Re: Jeff Van Gundy: Future Coach of the Pelicans?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 3:13 am
by zeebneeb
Anderson would be absolutely perfect next to drummond, but the odds of getting him are just A hair above zero.
Don't set yourself up for depression. Perfect fitting players are rarely ever attained, because the other team knows it, and asks for the moon.
Re: Jeff Van Gundy: Future Coach of the Pelicans?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 3:46 am
by Shady_
I hope so, only for the fact that he's terrible on tv.
Re: Jeff Van Gundy: Future Coach of the Pelicans?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:23 am
by WillTheThrill12
JVG becomes PoBBOps/HC of the Pelicans, SVG wants S&T Monroe for Davis. Boom. We back!
Re: Jeff Van Gundy: Future Coach of the Pelicans?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:40 am
by sfballa13
zeebneeb wrote:Anderson would be absolutely perfect next to drummond, but the odds of getting him are just A hair above zero.
Don't set yourself up for depression. Perfect fitting players are rarely ever attained, because the other team knows it, and asks for the moon.
Monroe, who is from New Orleans, seems like the perfect fit next to Davis, allowing Davis to guard weaker PF while Monroe camps out down low where he is best, playing center full time.
If anything Monroe >> Anderson and Detroit would be the one asking for more since the Pelicans can't sign Monroe outright as they have no space.
JVG would probably push for this deal as well, a core of Holiday/Reke/Davis/Monroe + whoever they can sign when Gordon expires is a mighty nice team to inherit
Re: Jeff Van Gundy: Future Coach of the Pelicans?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 8:14 am
by tmorgan
Ryan Anderson isn't as good as you think he is -- he'll make us wish for Monroe's defense back -- but it's better than nothing if they can make it work.
Re: Jeff Van Gundy: Future Coach of the Pelicans?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 11:22 am
by kurtis48239
Question is,can he stay healthy and start next to dre for a full season ? Thats the only thing that worries me about him.
Re: Jeff Van Gundy: Future Coach of the Pelicans?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:39 pm
by sfballa13
kurtis48239 wrote:Question is,can he stay healthy and start next to dre for a full season ? Thats the only thing that worries me about him.
I think he can stay healthy for a season and if he cant he expires.
We have paid big money for veteran bench guys in the past (see last year Caron Butler + Cartier Martin = 5.5M) so what's a few more million for a quality big who can shoot
Who knows maybe he will like playing under SVG and next to Dre and will resign for a discount after his contract is up
I think SVG wants to get something of value for Monroe rather then letting him walk for nothing. Besides New Orleans I cant see any other team (without the cap space to sign Moose outright) that could give us a piece that we want in return for Monroe
Plus knowing Monroe's high contract demands we would end up getting a 5-6M TPE which could come in handy next year at the deadline
SVG, where you at? Get it done!
Re: Jeff Van Gundy: Future Coach of the Pelicans?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:48 pm
by Cowology
His health is definitely a concern, but considering we'd likely be loosing Moose for nothing I'd be OK with a S&T if all parties agreed to it. Seems highly unlikely though.
Re: Jeff Van Gundy: Future Coach of the Pelicans?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 8:40 pm
by Billl
JVG isn't going to be a GM, so he's not answering that phone call. I'm not so sure most GM's are going to undermine their own authority by letting the new coach negotiate with his brother.
Re: Jeff Van Gundy: Future Coach of the Pelicans?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 8:50 pm
by The Penguin
Billl wrote:JVG isn't going to be a GM, so he's not answering that phone call. I'm not so sure most GM's are going to undermine their own authority by letting the new coach negotiate with his brother.
JVG isn't going in there if he knows his voice isn't being heard on the roster.
Re: Jeff Van Gundy: Future Coach of the Pelicans?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 10:40 pm
by Cowology
Billl wrote:JVG isn't going to be a GM, so he's not answering that phone call. I'm not so sure most GM's are going to undermine their own authority by letting the new coach negotiate with his brother.
undermine? It's called leveraging your personnel. You utilize those relationships to your teams benefit. GM's frequently have a handful of guys around the league they are comfortable with which is why you will see the same trade partners again and again. Coaches are frequently the same way, bringing in "their guys". Nothing wrong with it. The league will intervene if they consider it to be a detriment to the league, such as when they **** down CP3 to the Lakers.
Re: Jeff Van Gundy: Future Coach of the Pelicans?
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 2:54 am
by kurtis48239
sfballa13 wrote:kurtis48239 wrote:Question is,can he stay healthy and start next to dre for a full season ? Thats the only thing that worries me about him.
I think he can stay healthy for a season and if he cant he expires.
We have paid big money for veteran bench guys in the past (see last year Caron Butler + Cartier Martin = 5.5M) so what's a few more million for a quality big who can shoot
Who knows maybe he will like playing under SVG and next to Dre and will resign for a discount after his contract is up
I think SVG wants to get something of value for Monroe rather then letting him walk for nothing. Besides New Orleans I cant see any other team (without the cap space to sign Moose outright) that could give us a piece that we want in return for Monroe
Plus knowing Monroe's high contract demands we would end up getting a 5-6M TPE which could come in handy next year at the deadline
SVG, where you at? Get it done!
When its put that way,it dosent sound bad at all,the only thing is,wont we lose that bit of cap space signing moose ,will we miss the deadline to still use whats ever left from the trade? Isnt there a time period befor moose can be traded,I think its jan if iam not mistaken ?
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 9:27 am
by Pharaoh
S&T is one transaction so it happens immediately.
Monroe would sign AND be traded to Nawlins for Anderson straight away.
Assuming it happened of course
Re: Jeff Van Gundy: Future Coach of the Pelicans?
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 9:55 am
by roc
Cowology wrote: The league will intervene if they consider it to be a detriment to the league, such as when they **** down CP3 to the Lakers.
That was not shot down as detriment to the league but as detriment to the Pelicans whom were being ran by league til a new owner emerged. AKA it was basically an owner nixing a bad trade by their GM and rightfully so.
Re: Jeff Van Gundy: Future Coach of the Pelicans?
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 12:25 pm
by The Penguin
r0cd0gg wrote:Cowology wrote: The league will intervene if they consider it to be a detriment to the league, such as when they **** down CP3 to the Lakers.
That was not shot down as detriment to the league but as detriment to the Pelicans whom were being ran by league til a new owner emerged. AKA it was basically an owner nixing a bad trade by their GM and rightfully so.
Yes, Dan Gilbert cried about the formation of super teams and said the league was going to be full of Washington Generals with a few Globetrotters. Curious how he shut up as soon as he employed Lebron-Irving-Love.
Re: Jeff Van Gundy: Future Coach of the Pelicans?
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 12:54 pm
by Billl
Cowology wrote:Billl wrote:JVG isn't going to be a GM, so he's not answering that phone call. I'm not so sure most GM's are going to undermine their own authority by letting the new coach negotiate with his brother.
undermine? It's called leveraging your personnel. You utilize those relationships to your teams benefit. GM's frequently have a handful of guys around the league they are comfortable with which is why you will see the same trade partners again and again. Coaches are frequently the same way, bringing in "their guys". Nothing wrong with it. The league will intervene if they consider it to be a detriment to the league, such as when they **** down CP3 to the Lakers.
Yes - undermine. Definitely. Their GM has reportedly been on thin ice anyway. If you have the new coach taking trades with other teams, that GM is not going to be around long. Sure, different front offices may have relationships with each other, but when was the last time you heard about a coach taking the lead in trade negotiations? Coaches bring in "their guys" but that is to COACHING positions. They don't bring their guys into management roles.
Re: Jeff Van Gundy: Future Coach of the Pelicans?
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 6:07 pm
by hoophabit
Shady_ wrote:I hope so, only for the fact that he's terrible on tv.
Beat me to it. The guy is alternately annoying or enraging as a commentator. I often find myself thinking; Will you just shut up!
Re: Jeff Van Gundy: Future Coach of the Pelicans?
Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 11:26 am
by ElectricMayhem
Ryno's shooting was terrible down the stretch. At least it felt that way as his fantasy owner. And that was with a guy like Anthony Davis drawing double teams.