Cousins for Drummond?

sfballa13 · Post #1 » by **sfballa13** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:39 am

This is the latest rumor going around regarding Cousins:

To Lakers: Cousins, #6
To Magic: #2
To Kings: Vucevic, #5

The Kings want to win now and all the offers that are being reported are horrible.

Why dont we just offer Drummond, Jennings, and #8 and call it a day?

Reggie Jackson --- KCP ---- Carroll --- Ilyasova ---- Cousins

joedumars1 · Post #2 » by **joedumars1** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:41 am

No. I wouldn't do Dre straight up personally.

sfballa13 · Post #3 » by **sfballa13** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:43 am

joedumars1 wrote:No. I wouldn't do Dre straight up personally.

Cousins is the player we hope Drummond will be in 2-3 years

Why not just get that player now?

Reggie Jackson - KCP - Free Agent SF --- Cousins is a top 4-5 team in the East and if we get some nice players off the bench we could be a dark horse in the East

ComboGuardCity · Post #4 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:44 am

No. I like cousins but feels like doing too much. I would do #8, KCP, and 2016 though.

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sfballa13 · Post #5 » by **sfballa13** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:46 am

ComboGuardCity wrote:No. I like cousins but feels like doing too much. I would do #8, KCP, and 2016 though.

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Kings wont bite when they can take #2 or Vucevic and move up a spot in the draft

Cousins on the Pistons would sell out the Palace every night, Gores has to know that

Pistons instantly become relevant again

joedumars1 · Post #6 » by **joedumars1** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:53 am

sfballa13 wrote:
joedumars1 wrote:No. I wouldn't do Dre straight up personally.

Cousins is the player we hope Drummond will be in 2-3 years

Why not just get that player now?

Reggie Jackson - KCP - Free Agent SF --- Cousins is a top 4-5 team in the East and if we get some nice players off the bench we could be a dark horse in the East

Not really a Cousins fan, just seem he might not be a good player to try and build around, with his attitude, that could be overstated, but just not a fan of him. I also really like Dre, the only thing I get upset with Dre for is his laziness at times, but hopefully he get's over that this year. Hopefully his D improves too.

Shady_ · Post #7 » by **Shady_** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:29 am

Yes if the Kings are looking to trade Cousins, then the Pistons needs to get involved. I would easily trade Drummond for Cousins in a heartbeat.

Cousins can do everything Drummond can do and much more. Also Cousins is a sure thing, where Drummond we don't know where he stands whether he lives up to his potential or not.

Yes Cousins had an attitude problem but I think he's gotten better with it and also I like Cousin's toughness and he could bring an edge that this team needs.

Stan needs to get on the phone and get it done if he can, Cousins is a beast

ComboGuardCity · Post #8 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:31 am

sfballa13 wrote:
ComboGuardCity wrote:No. I like cousins but feels like doing too much. I would do #8, KCP, and 2016 though.

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Kings wont bite when they can take #2 or Vucevic and move up a spot in the draft

Cousins on the Pistons would sell out the Palace every night, Gores has to know that

Pistons instantly become relevant again

Cousins didn't make the Kings even close to relevant. He's a great offensive big, but unless you're Shaq, I don't see the need of a big putting up 20 shots a game. I take Drummond for the potential combination he can provide.

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MrBigShot · Post #9 » by **MrBigShot** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:34 am

Something to keep in mind: Cousins has 3 years left on his deal then becomes a UFA. Drummond has next year than likely gets a 5 year deal afterwards. So it's the next 6 years of Drummond or 3 seasons of Cousins after which he can leave.

Ideally we could pair them with each other, but that's not gonna happen. I'm torn on this...how likely is Dre to become as good as Cousins is now?

ImHeisenberg · Post #10 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:44 am

I'm reading that the Lakers are trying to convince the Kings to part with him, but Sacramento isn't interested.

DETermination · Post #11 » by **DETermination** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:49 am

MrBigShot wrote:Something to keep in mind: Cousins has 3 years left on his deal then becomes a UFA. Drummond has next year than likely gets a 5 year deal afterwards. So it's the next 6 years of Drummond or 3 seasons of Cousins after which he can leave.

Ideally we could pair them with each other, but that's not gonna happen. I'm torn on this...how likely is Dre to become as good as Cousins is now?

This is why I would not do this deal. I would rather take the chance on Dre becoming a star in the next 6 years than getting a really good cousins for 3 years then losing him.

ImHeisenberg · Post #12 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:06 am

If proposed if the offer of Cousins for Drummond and Jennings, I'd probably bite.

Cousins' attitude issues seemed to dissipate when Mike Malone was coaching him. Get him playing some defense with his head in the game, and Cousins is one a top ten player in the NBA. I can't say that about Drummond at this point in time. Of course, Cousins has been in the league two more years than Dre. This could be an entirely different conversation 12, or 24 months from now.

princeofpalace · Post #13 » by **princeofpalace** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:27 am

I'd do this

Detroit trades: Drummond, 2016 First
Detroit receives: Noel, #3,
We get a defensive monster in Noel + potential star G Russell. We still land Winslow at 8. Our upside would be tremendous with a core of Jackson/Russell/KCP/Winslow/Noel. We may be able to convince Monroe to return as our C as well.

Philly receives: Cousins
Philly trades: Noel, #3
Philly acquires their star player

Kings receive: Drummond, 2016 First
Kings trade: Cousins
Kings get a C that can play in Karls uptempo style + a pick

MotownMadness · Post #14 » by **MotownMadness** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:40 am

sfballa13 wrote:This is the latest rumor going around regarding Cousins:

To Lakers: Cousins, #6
To Magic: #2
To Kings: Vucevic, #5

The Kings want to win now and all the offers that are being reported are horrible.

Why dont we just offer Drummond, Jennings, and #8 and call it a day?

Reggie Jackson --- KCP ---- Carroll --- Ilyasova ---- Cousins

No way the Lakers get back the 6th pick as well. Sacramento should still keep their pick in this scenario.

The Penguin · Post #15 » by **The Penguin** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:25 pm

I'd trade everything in the organization BUT Drummond for him.

One of the rumors is Cousins doesn't want to play center, he doesn't want the defensive banging/rim protecting responsibilities. If we could put him next to Drummond and go from there we've got a real interesting two core pieces. If we just swap out Drummond (plus assets like #8) for him it just feels like running in quick sand.

MotownMadness · Post #16 » by **MotownMadness** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:38 pm

Good lord, SVG would snap on him within a week. Especially with him making the calls around here.

Bakuto · Post #17 » by **Bakuto** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:25 pm

sfballa13 wrote:This is the latest rumor going around regarding Cousins:

To Lakers: Cousins, #6
To Magic: #2
To Kings: Vucevic, #5

The Kings want to win now and all the offers that are being reported are horrible.

Why dont we just offer Drummond, Jennings, and #8 and call it a day?

Reggie Jackson --- KCP ---- Carroll --- Ilyasova ---- Cousins

Why on Earth are the Lakers getting a top ten pick along with Cousins? Sactown should not be giving any pick in any Cousins deal.

The Penguin · Post #18 » by **The Penguin** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:31 pm

Catalysm wrote:
sfballa13 wrote:This is the latest rumor going around regarding Cousins:

To Lakers: Cousins, #6
To Magic: #2
To Kings: Vucevic, #5

The Kings want to win now and all the offers that are being reported are horrible.

Why dont we just offer Drummond, Jennings, and #8 and call it a day?

Reggie Jackson --- KCP ---- Carroll --- Ilyasova ---- Cousins

Why on Earth are the Lakers getting a top ten pick along with Cousins? Sactown should not be giving any pick in any Cousins deal.

No kidding. #6 shouldn't be included.

I would imagine something like:

Lakers - Cousins
Magic - # 2
Kings - Vucevic / Randle / #5

Magic move Vuc (Skiles supposedly doesn't want him) and #5 to get Okafor as their center of the future. Feels a bit light for the Magic, but if they don't see Vuc as a core piece moving forward and expect to lose out on the top tier at #5 this puts them there. Kings have both #5 & #6, likely getting Mudiay as their PG and one of WCS/Winslow/Hezonja. Vuc / Randle / Gay / McLemore / Stauskas + #5 & #6 is an interesting core group.

Liqourish · Post #19 » by **Liqourish** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:46 pm

I'll say it... I don't want Cousins. Yes, I wanted him when he was drafted, but was happy when Monroe was available. But Cousins, despite being offensively productive (although needs the ball alot), is not a good fit for our organization. He needs a strong team with veteran leaders and an understanding coach to keep him in check. The 2004 team with LB would have been great for Cousins, but with SVG and a bunch of young guys, he's a ticking time bomb. No thank you.

Post #20 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:51 pm

It doesn't matter. The Kings won't move him. That crazy owner of theirs has made that pretty clear.