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So Sports Illustrated just released their top 100 NBA player list. RJ is at 94 behind JJ redick and Lou Williams. Meh. I'd rate RJ above Lou Williams but that's just me being a biased pistons fan. Oh and by the way guess who is 2 steps behind Reggie. Yes our beloved Josh Smith.

Wheres Drummond bro?

gerd10 wrote:So Sports Illustrated just released their top 100 NBA player list. RJ is at 94 behind JJ redick and Lou Williams. Meh. I'd rate RJ above Lou Williams but that's just me being a biased pistons fan. Oh and by the way guess who is 2 steps behind Reggie. Yes our beloved Josh Smith.

keep in mind this is based on more than just 27 games. though i feel smith is on here because of 27 games he played decent.

Well Lou Williams is actually pretty good...For his role. Based on Jackson's role, he was just as good as Lou Williams. But now he's a starter and things are different. When you're a starter, your numbers go up, you get better teammates/productivity, but also better defense to play against. But I think when someone starts, they do better than they would on the bench depending on your role and teammates. For example, Harden was better suited as a Sixth Man in OKC because they already have plenty of scorers. Change the team, starting role and he becomes a star. It just so happens that we got the sixth man from the same team

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Andre Drummond
Pistons | Center | Last year: 37

For three seasons, the hype and anticipation surrounding Pistons center Andre Drummond has exceeded the results. The 6’10” Drummond, who just turned 22 in August, has the size, strength and athletic tools to be a franchise center. But, as tends to happen with young big men, his development has been full of starts and stops.

While he’s established himself as the league’s premier offensive rebounder and posted impressive block rates, he’s also struggled to finish consistently in the paint, he’s led the league twice in personal fouls, he’s compiled such a horrific free-throw shooting percentage that he makes Dwight Howard look like John Stockton, and he’s still a ways from mastering the finer points of life as a back-line defender. Predictably, there have been consistency issues too: there’s the Drummond who posted two 20/20 games in 2014–15, joining DeMarcus Cousins and DeAndre Jordan as the only players to accomplish the feat multiple times, and then there’s the Drummond who, too often, couldn’t seem to buy a basket.

Slowly but surely, Pistons president/coach Stan Van Gundy has reshaped a flawed roster to better suit Drummond, ditching space-killing big men Greg Monroe and Josh Smith, adding a pick-and-roll point guard in Reggie Jackson, and upgrading his perimeter options in hopes of mimicking the Howard-centric roster he fielded during his days coaching the Magic. These are all fantastic developments for Drummond, who should see an uptick in his minutes, touches, responsibilities and comfort factor next season.

http://www.si.com/nba/top-100-nba-players-2016?page=3&devicetype=default

Seems about right. Dre certainly does still have a long way to go to be the player he COULD be.

I like what SVG has said about player rankings. He has opined that many of these experts haven't really done their due diligence to truly analyze players. I believe that is the case with Reggie Jackson. Writers have collectively come to a hive mind opinion of him and have stuck to it as it is law. Jackson strikes me as a guy bent on proving his detractors wrong. He will get ample opportunity to do so.

Dre has been a player with through the roof potential and flashes of brilliance, but a RAW game. He's just coming around to learning the game and with the additions of players that compliment him and a coach that can develop him, he will undoubtedly make the jump to the next level...provide he puts in the work. I think he's good for a breakthrough season.

Wow Dre is certainly high, I have him around 60, I have Reggie in the top50 though.

The list is awful all the way through. They omitted Oladipo entirely, and put Draymond Green over the likes of Klay, Jimmy Butler, and Kyrie. Dre's pretty high. Reggie is laughably low. Horford's too high. And as gracefully as Tim Duncan has aged, I don't think he's a top 11 player anymore.

I love Draymond Green, having said that, he has no business been in the top30, let alone almost top15, he belongs in the 35-40 range.

Reggie is in the neighborhood of Freak, Motie, Lou Williams, Redick...I think that's pretty fair, if not generous, based on what he's done. Dre is right around Favors, Lowry, Gobert, Lopez, Bledsoe... also reasonable. These guys still have things to prove and I think they will.

BTW, the optics of their website are beyond awful.

Fischella wrote:Wow Dre is certainly high, I have him around 60, I have Reggie in the top50 though.

I kind of get you on this one. A guy who shoots FTs at less than 40% at 35? Yes, he might be the best offensive rebounder of all time, and maybe the best rebounder before it's over, but those FT numbers are atrocious. Otherwise though, he sure is a package for a modern NBA big.

Reggie might have been a little higher, but he needs to show what we saw down the stretch was real. If so, yes, and he'll move up.