Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
Moderators: dVs33, Cowology, theBigLip, Snakebites
Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,613
- And1: 1,421
- Joined: Jul 25, 2010
-
Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
Bullock's confidence is shaken right now. I'd rather give Hilliard a shot at playing back up SG. What's Bullock doing that's any different? All he does is miss and turn the ball over.
Defense wins championships
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
- whitehops
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,303
- And1: 7,013
- Joined: Dec 12, 2012
- Location: Toronto
-
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
I remember when people were saying bullock should get meeks' minutes lol.
Trust that the coaching staff knows who is better. They see them both play in practice every day.
Trust that the coaching staff knows who is better. They see them both play in practice every day.
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,613
- And1: 1,421
- Joined: Jul 25, 2010
-
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
whitehops wrote:I remember when people were saying bullock should get meeks' minutes lol.
Trust that the coaching staff knows who is better. They see them both play in practice every day.
In practice. Production on the court is different. Howard makes most of his FTs in practice but misses them on court. The same thing could be happening to Bullock. So give him negative reinforcement and bench him. Let Hilliard play
Defense wins championships
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
- ComboGuardCity
- RealGM
- Posts: 25,970
- And1: 4,896
- Joined: Jul 10, 2010
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
Who says Hillard is even making them in practice.
Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums
Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
- ElectricMayhem
- RealGM
- Posts: 10,241
- And1: 11,452
- Joined: Jul 01, 2006
- Location: Kobe-Osaka
-
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
Bullock was playing great in the preseason. It makes me wonder whether he suffers from ADS* or JMS**.
*ADS (Austin Daye Syndrome): When a player is able to dominate against lesser talent but remains unable to do anything against greater talent.
**JMS (Jason Maxiell Syndrome): When a player performs admirably when given plentiful time to do so but is unable to perform in spot minutes.
*ADS (Austin Daye Syndrome): When a player is able to dominate against lesser talent but remains unable to do anything against greater talent.
**JMS (Jason Maxiell Syndrome): When a player performs admirably when given plentiful time to do so but is unable to perform in spot minutes.
Tom Gores' Securus faced a class action lawsuit in 2024. The company engaged in a "quid pro quo kickback scheme" with county jails in Michigan which banned in-person visits in order to maximize revenue from voice and video calls.
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
- Kilo
- RealGM
- Posts: 12,266
- And1: 5,253
- Joined: Jun 18, 2011
-
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
I assume Jackson will get the back-up SG minutes when Jennings is back. Jackson gets 24mpg at the point and 12 at the 2-guard, Jennings 24mpg at the point, KCP 36mpg at 2-guard.
Weaver = Hinkie
VW to Portland
VW to Portland

Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 9,963
- And1: 2,829
- Joined: Jun 01, 2013
-
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
Yeah Bullock is a crapshoot at the moment. No way he should crack rotation outside the 76ers squad, he just doesn't play good basketball. The defense is sort of there, but everything he does just ends up being an offensive foul because he's not in control.
Might as well give Hilliard a shot. I never thought I'd miss Meeks even if he did all sort of weird stuff out there and miss crucial 3s. At least he ran around off screens and gave defenses a scare.
Might as well give Hilliard a shot. I never thought I'd miss Meeks even if he did all sort of weird stuff out there and miss crucial 3s. At least he ran around off screens and gave defenses a scare.
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
- zeebneeb
- RealGM
- Posts: 19,492
- And1: 13,022
- Joined: Jun 30, 2003
- Location: ANGERVILLE: Population 1
-
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
This really isn't fair. I can understand if everything else falls off in the regular season in comparison to the preseason (defense, passing, e.t.c.) As the regular season is just much faster.whitehops wrote:I remember when people were saying bullock should get meeks' minutes lol.
Trust that the coaching staff knows who is better. They see them both play in practice every day.
What doesn't make sense is Bullock can't hit the broadside of a barn now. I mean he was wide the hell open last night twice and wasnt even close on the shots. I honestly don't understand what is wrong with Bullock. Some sort of stage fright? Mental block?
If you can shoot the ball, you can shoot the ball.
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
- whitehops
- General Manager
- Posts: 8,303
- And1: 7,013
- Joined: Dec 12, 2012
- Location: Toronto
-
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
zeebneeb wrote:This really isn't fair. I can understand if everything else falls off in the regular season in comparison to the preseason (defense, passing, e.t.c.) As the regular season is just much faster.whitehops wrote:I remember when people were saying bullock should get meeks' minutes lol.
Trust that the coaching staff knows who is better. They see them both play in practice every day.
What doesn't make sense is Bullock can't hit the broadside of a barn now. I mean he was wide the hell open last night twice and wasnt even close on the shots. I honestly don't understand what is wrong with Bullock. Some sort of stage fright? Mental block?
If you can shoot the ball, you can shoot the ball.
he has shot 30% from 3 in his career, so i'm not quite sure what people were expecting.
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
-
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,311
- And1: 1,383
- Joined: Nov 11, 2008
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
ElectricMayhem wrote:Bullock was playing great in the preseason. It makes me wonder whether he suffers from ADS* or JMS**.
*ADS (Austin Daye Syndrome): When a player is able to dominate against lesser talent but remains unable to do anything against greater talent.
**JMS (Jason Maxiell Syndrome): When a player performs admirably when given plentiful time to do so but is unable to perform in spot minutes.
I think it's JMS for sure. Bullock seems like a guy that needs a good chunk of minutes to start hitting his shots.
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 14,912
- And1: 2,245
- Joined: Oct 03, 2005
-
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
I just want to see Hilliard get a shot. I don't even care how he plays in practice. Game time is so much different. Since SVG loves going to full bench lineups, why not throw him in and get his feet wet. At least then, we'll know where he's at.
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 9,963
- And1: 2,829
- Joined: Jun 01, 2013
-
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
I don't even know why we even drafted Hilliard. Might as well have gotten a huge project, raw specimen instead if we were going to bury the kid.
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
-
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,461
- And1: 2,086
- Joined: Nov 05, 2010
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
Bullock has stage fright or something. The kid can flat out shoot. He is just rushing stuff right now it seems. I think if he could extended minutes at some point it would settle him down, but that isn't likely to happen unless foul trouble to others. He just has to man up and stop playing so scared.
I like the idea of trying Hilliard. Anyone who can make a shot deserves a rotation spot at this point. With the way Tolliver is shooting, Stan should consider using Morris less at SF and more at backup PF, which could create some extra minutes at the backup 2/3 spots for Hillard and Bullock to get minutes. Might as well develop our young guys if Tolliver isn't going to contribute anything.
I like the idea of trying Hilliard. Anyone who can make a shot deserves a rotation spot at this point. With the way Tolliver is shooting, Stan should consider using Morris less at SF and more at backup PF, which could create some extra minutes at the backup 2/3 spots for Hillard and Bullock to get minutes. Might as well develop our young guys if Tolliver isn't going to contribute anything.
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
-
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,461
- And1: 2,086
- Joined: Nov 05, 2010
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
whitehops wrote:I remember when people were saying bullock should get meeks' minutes lol.
Trust that the coaching staff knows who is better. They see them both play in practice every day.
eh..Bullock isn't doing anything right now but he's only getting 7 mpg and is 1-6 3FG. If he makes his 2 three's last night he is 50% on the year. Too small of a sample to conclude anything.. Meeks gets 20-25 mpg and jacks shots like crazy and doesn't do anything.
That coaching staff is the one who picked up Bullock's contract option too, so they obviously see the potential. Need to see more.
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
- zeebneeb
- RealGM
- Posts: 19,492
- And1: 13,022
- Joined: Jun 30, 2003
- Location: ANGERVILLE: Population 1
-
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
Again way to simplistic. I don't care if he shot 20% for his career. We all watched him hit open shot after open shot in preseason. He is missing so badly in games it's bizarre. I mean he's not even drawing iron on alot of his shots.whitehops wrote:zeebneeb wrote:This really isn't fair. I can understand if everything else falls off in the regular season in comparison to the preseason (defense, passing, e.t.c.) As the regular season is just much faster.whitehops wrote:I remember when people were saying bullock should get meeks' minutes lol.
Trust that the coaching staff knows who is better. They see them both play in practice every day.
What doesn't make sense is Bullock can't hit the broadside of a barn now. I mean he was wide the hell open last night twice and wasnt even close on the shots. I honestly don't understand what is wrong with Bullock. Some sort of stage fright? Mental block?
If you can shoot the ball, you can shoot the ball.
he has shot 30% from 3 in his career, so i'm not quite sure what people were expecting.
Shakey is how I would describe his on court play style. Like his confidence is so badly broken it's gone forever.
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
- Blkbrd671
- RealGM
- Posts: 30,862
- And1: 4,819
- Joined: Oct 05, 2010
- Location: Guam,USA
-
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
zeebneeb wrote:Again way to simplistic. I don't care if he shot 20% for his career. We all watched him hit open shot after open shot in preseason. He is missing so badly in games it's bizarre. I mean he's not even drawing iron on alot of his shots.whitehops wrote:zeebneeb wrote:This really isn't fair. I can understand if everything else falls off in the regular season in comparison to the preseason (defense, passing, e.t.c.) As the regular season is just much faster.
What doesn't make sense is Bullock can't hit the broadside of a barn now. I mean he was wide the hell open last night twice and wasnt even close on the shots. I honestly don't understand what is wrong with Bullock. Some sort of stage fright? Mental block?
If you can shoot the ball, you can shoot the ball.
he has shot 30% from 3 in his career, so i'm not quite sure what people were expecting.
Shakey is how I would describe his on court play style. Like his confidence is so badly broken it's gone forever.
I'm with whitehops on this
1.) This isn't 2k. You can't just try out players and then send them to the bench. SVG used training camp and preseason to determine his lineups. When a coach starts just throwing in players, your rotations are messed up, chemistry is unfamiliar, and now your teams trust is shaken in the coaches decision. Statistically that is more likely to happen than a rookie 2nd rounder showing that he's the steal of the draft.
2.) Zeebneeb, just stop with the ignoring statistics argument. Its tangible evidence of the chances of the ball go in with each shot, that's been taken over 3 years. vs 10(?) meaningless preseason games. Can bullock shoot the ball!? yes, is he a above average 3 point shooter in the NBA. NO. There's no argument. Potential don't mean sh* til its production.
3.) i really like what i see in Hillard. Guy can play ball, and he can shoot it. What i haven't seen him do though, is defend effectively. and i think above all else SVG values defense as should we. SVG watches them everyday in practice, i trust he knows whats best for the team
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 9,963
- And1: 2,829
- Joined: Jun 01, 2013
-
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
There's also a huge difference between actually shooting it in a real-game setting versus training camp/drills/no pressure. Bullock is likely the guy that does well when he has no pressure, but as soon as he steps foot in an actual real game setting, he flops.
Some players relish that and embrace that pressure to perform, others like Bullock fail to grasp it and let it loose. Maybe he'll piece it together one day, but the time is definitely not now.
Some players relish that and embrace that pressure to perform, others like Bullock fail to grasp it and let it loose. Maybe he'll piece it together one day, but the time is definitely not now.
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
- ComboGuardCity
- RealGM
- Posts: 25,970
- And1: 4,896
- Joined: Jul 10, 2010
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
A guy like bullock just needs to see a couple shots go down.
Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums
Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
-
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,221
- And1: 3,357
- Joined: Sep 06, 2013
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
If Bullock doesn't show something in the next couple games, I think you have to give hilliard a look. He's got a bit of a different skill set and some better handles.
I think the complete lack of playmaking the second unit is making it really tough on Bullock right now. There are very few guys who can come in cold and knock down 3's. I bet if bullock were getting the occasional transition layup, the basket would look a whole lot bigger.
I think the complete lack of playmaking the second unit is making it really tough on Bullock right now. There are very few guys who can come in cold and knock down 3's. I bet if bullock were getting the occasional transition layup, the basket would look a whole lot bigger.
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
-
- Analyst
- Posts: 3,183
- And1: 1,048
- Joined: Jan 30, 2013
-
Re: Give Hilliard a shot instead of Bullock
Langlois said SVG is getting ready to send Hilliard to GR. Practice must make it clear Bullock deserves what little time he gets.
Fire Troy Weaver