Is there an elite SG out there we could trade for?

[blueadams]

1: KCP. He's young (23). He's already a plus-defender. He's a solid scorer. SVG seems to really like him. And he's got a lot of potential to grow. But, in this offense, his outside shooting (.309 this season) is an issue. .319, .345, .309 in three NBA seasons; .327 career. Is he ever going to be a good enough of an outside shooter to be a starter on an SVG championship team? Is he ever going to develop into an All-Star type player? I'm of the opinion that we're one major player away from being a serious contender. And SG is the position where I'd like to add one.

2: FA. Let's assume that we add a solid backup stretch-4/5 and a solid backup pg this off-season.

3: What do we have to offer in a trade? Our 1st rd pick this yr. Our 1st rd pick next yr.. in future yrs. KCP. Morris or Stanley. Meeks as a salary match, if necessary.

4: Who's out there that we could get for a package like that?

Jimmy Butler?

C: Drummond - - - - - Baynes
PF: Harris - - - - - *FA?*
SF: Johnson/Morris - - - - - Bullock
SG: *Trade?* - - - - - ?
PG: Jackson - - - - - *FA?*

[Arp590]

After what we saw from him in the playoffs.. we need to roll with KCP. He will be cheaper than Butler and we don't have to give anything up.
Plus Jimmy Butler misses 15+ games every season.

[blueadams]

Bradley Beal??

[mattao313]

Beal is always hurt and really isn't all that good.

[Arp590]

Bradley Beal??

Beal is just a big headache, he misses a significant amount of games every season. He's made of glass.

[Todd3]

There were rumors Hammond was willing to deal Middleton last year, but wanted a 1st rd pick + young assets and teams weren't interested at that price.

We have the means to make such a deal though, and given how perfect he would fit, we might be more motivated than other teams. Stan has said before that he thinks Middleton is a star. He also just said he wants to improve our catch & shoot game, which Middleton would certainly do.

18th pick + KCP could be enough. They get a starting SG in return + 1st rd pick, and we get a starting SG who better fits our system/personnel.

As much as I like Butler and think he's a better overall player, in terms of fit, I think Middleton would actually be the better SG for us because of his shooting. He would likely be cheaper to acquire too.

[In SVG We Trust]

The 2 perfect players for this team are Klay Thompson or Paul George, and there's no way we could get one of them

[bballnmike]

The 2 perfect players for this team are Klay Thompson or Paul George, and there's no way we could get one of them

Blackmail

[In SVG We Trust]

The 2 perfect players for this team are Klay Thompson or Paul George, and there's no way we could get one of them

Blackmail

Can we get shooters with shooters?

[Todd3]

The 2 perfect players for this team are Klay Thompson or Paul George, and there's no way we could get one of them

Agree, but Middleton actually made the same % of catch % shoot 3s as Klay this year (44%). Big difference in volume -- Klay took 6.7 per game and Middleton only 3.4 -- but would still be a major shooting upgrade for us if we could get him.

A more realistic option is Seth Curry, who was actually better than both (and Steph as well), making 52% of his catch & shoot 3s -- but on only 2 per game. Still, he's got potential to do more if we increased his volume. He probably doesn't have the size to be a full-time SG, but could be our backup PG 15 mpg and play SG with Reggie 15 mpg. Who knows though, McCollum has worked with Lillard, and Reggie/Curry would be about the same size.

[Todd3]

The 2 perfect players for this team are Klay Thompson or Paul George, and there's no way we could get one of them

Blackmail

Can we get shooters with shooters?

[MotownMadness]

No need to do anything drastic to rush the process. KCP just gives 100% on both sides of the ball every night and looked awesome in the playoffs. We have time to let these guys develop and not rush things and risk him turning into a great two way player for some other team. At least wait till after this season to see his progress.

[DetroitSho]

There were rumors Hammond was willing to deal Middleton last year, but wanted a 1st rd pick + young assets and teams weren't interested at that price.

We have the means to make such a deal though, and given how perfect he would fit, we might be more motivated than other teams. Stan has said before that he thinks Middleton is a star. He also just said he wants to improve our catch & shoot game, which Middleton would certainly do.

18th pick + KCP could be enough. They get a starting SG in return + 1st rd pick, and we get a starting SG who better fits our system/personnel.

As much as I like Butler and think he's a better overall player, in terms of fit, I think Middleton would actually be the better SG for us because of his shooting. He would likely be cheaper to acquire too.

I can actually get with this and it's way better than your previous lazy attempts to "upgrade" from KCP with the Evan Fourniers of the world. I would go one further and try to swap out KCP for Stanley and whatever asset, and try to get Middleton to play alongside KCP at the 3.

[Todd3]

There were rumors Hammond was willing to deal Middleton last year, but wanted a 1st rd pick + young assets and teams weren't interested at that price.

We have the means to make such a deal though, and given how perfect he would fit, we might be more motivated than other teams. Stan has said before that he thinks Middleton is a star. He also just said he wants to improve our catch & shoot game, which Middleton would certainly do.

18th pick + KCP could be enough. They get a starting SG in return + 1st rd pick, and we get a starting SG who better fits our system/personnel.

As much as I like Butler and think he's a better overall player, in terms of fit, I think Middleton would actually be the better SG for us because of his shooting. He would likely be cheaper to acquire too.

I can actually get with this and it's way better than your previous lazy attempts to "upgrade" from KCP with the Evan Fourniers of the world. I would go one further and try to swap out KCP for Stanley and whatever asset, and try to get Middleton to play alongside KCP at the 3.

Fournier is a better shooter than KCP. 6th best catch & shoot 3pt % among starting SGs this year. Nothing lazy about that.

Rather have Middleton though. I'd do Stanley/1st for him, but KCP makes more sense, because if we're to go with an inconsistent shooter/defender next to Middleton, might as well go with the guy who can score/make plays off the dribble and is younger/cheaper with more potential. KCP is going to cost a lot to resign next year, while SJ will be on his rookie deal 3 more years.

Or offer them both for him and keep the pick and draft Valentine. Middleton/Valentine would be a sweet 2/3 duo next to Reggie. We're going to have lots of options this summer to upgrade/rework the roster.

[MrBigShot]

KCP regular season: 14.5/4/2 on 42/31/81
KCP post season: 15/4/2 on 44/44/71

On ~7 three point shot attempts a game, biggest games of the season in terms of stage/importances and he did it against far and away the best team in the East. The major knock on him was his 3pt shooting and efficiency, he stepped up in both regards. He's improved every year of his career, and I don't expect that to change.

If a big upgrade comes along I wouldn't hesitate to deal KCP, but unless that happens he's SG of the future in my eyes.

[El Chivo]

Nobody ever questions the quality of the looks our wing players are getting...

[theBigLip]

I totally want to keep KCP. I think he can still improve offensively, and he was on a tear before he got hurt in the late season. Also, like already mentioned, her stepped up in the playoffs while guarding Kyrie. And that brings me to the last point - KCP is our stopper. He brings it on defense. And when you talk about getting another shooter that might be a few percentage points better, what would we be giving up on defense?

One more point - we have built a TEAM. These guys are growing together, and there is a lot of value to that. Houston is talented, but their teamwork is toxic. You can say GSW are talented, but are all time elite because they are a TEAM. We are building that now, so we shouldn't try to break it up for a marginal gain - we might just get that gain by keeping everyone.

But, if you're looking for a weak link in our starters, I'd go with Harris.

[Blkbrd671]

1: KCP. He's young (23). He's already a plus-defender. He's a solid scorer. SVG seems to really like him. And he's got a lot of potential to grow. But, in this offense, his outside shooting (.309 this season) is an issue. .319, .345, .309 in three NBA seasons; .327 career. Is he ever going to be a good enough of an outside shooter to be a starter on an SVG championship team? Is he ever going to develop into an All-Star type player? I'm of the opinion that we're one major player away from being a serious contender. And SG is the position where I'd like to add one.

2: FA. Let's assume that we add a solid backup stretch-4/5 and a solid backup pg this off-season.

How can we be one major player away from serious contender but still need to address the backup and pf positions????

IMO the major problem here is your timeline. While yes i expect us to be closer to contention next year, its going to be through development, continuity, and depth. We could literally address the pf, backup pg position and still be a better team next year. If we end up going the route of trading assets for ANOTHER core piece, we take a step backwards in both continuity and depth and a step forward in the talent department which really isn't the problem of this team.

As much as playoff experience has benefited each player individually, the true benefit is our core pieces experiencing the playoffs together. KCP is most certainly a core piece. And if his playoff performance is any indication of his production moving forward, we have a lot to be excited about especially with SJ waiting in line.

[bballnmike]

The 2 perfect players for this team are Klay Thompson or Paul George, and there's no way we could get one of them

Blackmail

Can we get shooters with shooters?

I happen to have some very incriminating pictures of Larry Bird.

[tradez401]

i wouldnt trade KCP unless a obvious upgrade at the 2 spot presented itself