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Pistons could look to copy Oklahoma City's twin tower lineup
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 6:36 pm
by Laimbeer
And how the Spurs — who were the Western Conference’s No. 2 seed — could not deal with the big lineup shows the NBA might want to hold off on trying to copy the Golden State Warriors.
When Kanter and Adams were paired together in five games of the series, the Thunder grabbed 67% of available rebounds and 45.1% of available offensive rebounds, dominating the glass...
They want to add a big man who can shoot, to provide spacing when Drummond is on the floor. But there will also be a premium on a big man able to move his feet to defend perimeter players.
Baynes can spread the floor out to the free-throw line, but he struggles guarding players on the perimeter.
The Free Press reported at the trade deadline there will be interest in Hawks unrestricted free agent center Al Horford (Grand Ledge) in the off-season. Horford can shoot, is a capable defender and would fit perfectly with Drummond.
Another name to watch: Bulls unrestricted free agent center Pau Gasol.
http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2016/05/14/detroit-pistons-could-look-copy-oklahoma-citys-twin-tower-lineup/84385128/
Re: Pistons could look to copy Oklahoma City's twin tower lineup
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 6:48 pm
by coordinator0
This has pretty much been the assumption for a while now, especially after the situation with Motiejunas. Detroit needs an actual "big" at power forward to give them more versatility in their lineups. Probably not something Van Gundy will employ a majority of the time, but to match up with other teams who do so and take advantage of other particular lineups/players that can't hang with size.
They want to add a big man who can shoot, to provide spacing when Drummond is on the floor. But there will also be a premium on a big man able to move his feet to defend perimeter players.
Baynes can spread the floor out to the free-throw line, but he struggles guarding players on the perimeter.
Another name to watch: Bulls unrestricted free agent center Pau Gasol.
Pau is a joke as a defender at this point. That's either moving his feet to guard the perimeter or in the post. He would fit well offensively with Drummond in the role being talked about, but if defense is the priority he won't be a target for Detroit.
Re: Pistons could look to copy Oklahoma City's twin tower lineup
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 7:14 pm
by DBC10
Pau's too old, he'd be a 2 year rental at best. I like his versatility since you can run the offense through him a bit due to his superb passing skills for a 7 footer. I'd love to have him as a sixth man like Lamar Odom.
Let's get Greg Monroe back, we can get our rebounding numbers up again. But as a sixth man, lel.
Re: Pistons could look to copy Oklahoma City's twin tower lineup
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 7:51 pm
by Joe Berry
Horford only fits into the capspace if the Pistons get rid of Meeks and Baynes for cap without almost taking anything back. Trading some picks for that would be worth it since Horford would be a perfect fit and this has nothing to do with the OKC twin tower narrative. That still would leave a big hole at backup PG without any cap to fix it.
Gasol would not be a good fit, pass.
Re: Pistons could look to copy Oklahoma City's twin tower lineup
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:21 pm
by The_Irony
Matchups. There's nothing to really copycat about what OKC did..they took advantage of SAS' old/tired legs. We'll see what matchup problems they'll give GSW.
I would like to see
Adams
Kanter
Ibaka
KD
Russ
for atleast a 4 minute segment against GSWs small ball to see what that does
Re: Pistons could look to copy Oklahoma City's twin tower lineup
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:55 pm
by In SVG We Trust
The_Irony wrote:Matchups. There's nothing to really copycat about what OKC did..they took advantage of SAS' old/tired legs. We'll see what matchup problems they'll give GSW.
I would like to see
Adams
Kanter
Ibaka
KD
Russ
for atleast a 4 minute segment against GSWs small ball to see what that does
34-4 run for GSW in those 4 minutes
Re: Pistons could look to copy Oklahoma City's twin tower lineup
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 9:00 pm
by ImHeisenberg
So, they want a big that can defend all the way to the perimeter, rebound well, and knock down the 3 pointer.
They call those players all stars. Lucky for us, they literally grow on trees.
Horford is probably the closest FA that checks all those boxes, even if his 3-point shooting his shakey. His mid-range game is excellent.
If Atlanta wants to make some moves and find Paul Millsap a new home, he checks a lot of those boxes too. He can't defend like Horford, but he'll bring the offense and rebounding.
Ryan Anderson is a one-trick pony for the most part. 3-point shooting, and that's it.
Too bad D-Mo's back was too suspicious for SVG and the gang. He would have been an ideal pick. Then again, if his back wasn't messed up, Houston probably never considers the trade to begin with.
Re: Pistons could look to copy Oklahoma City's twin tower lineup
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 10:04 pm
by DET_Athletics
Joe Berry wrote:Horford only fits into the capspace if the Pistons get rid of Meeks and Baynes for cap without almost taking anything back. Trading some picks for that would be worth it since Horford would be a perfect fit and this has nothing to do with the OKC twin tower narrative. That still would leave a big hole at backup PG without any cap to fix it.
Gasol would not be a good fit, pass.
we might have to use a pick to get ride of meeks but not baynes, he is worth his contract.baynes should be good to fetch us a back up point guard, might have to add a second to sweeten the deal.
Re: Pistons could look to copy Oklahoma City's twin tower lineup
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 10:25 pm
by In SVG We Trust
Millsap is a way better defender than Horford right now
Re: Pistons could look to copy Oklahoma City's twin tower lineup
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 10:51 pm
by DBC10
In SVG We Trust wrote:Millsap is a way better defender than Horford right now
Millsap was easily their best player too. Both eye test and overall stats on how he affected the game shows.
Horford looked exhausted and old in that series. It'd be a mistake if we blew all our cap on another former Hawk out of his prime.
Re: Pistons could look to copy Oklahoma City's twin tower lineup
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 11:17 pm
by dVs33
I can't see either pay or horford coming our way in the off season. Pau is almost 100% a spur next year and horford will have his pick of basically any playoff team. I still think we need to look at some younger guys.
Re: Pistons could look to copy Oklahoma City's twin tower lineup
Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:06 am
by In SVG We Trust
Pau a spur? No way Pop wants him destroying their defensive system
Re: Pistons could look to copy Oklahoma City's twin tower lineup
Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 1:35 am
by dVs33
In SVG We Trust wrote:Pau a spur? No way Pop wants him destroying their defensive system
Just watch. I guarantee he'll be there next year.
Re: Pistons could look to copy Oklahoma City's twin tower lineup
Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 2:35 am
by Pharaoh
Might as well start a thread called:
Pistons wanna be 9 deep to match up with ALL other teams!
That's SVGs plan anyway.
Go normal with Dre, Harris, Mook, KCP, RJ
Go "small" with a C, Mook, SJ, RJ & a PG
Go "big" with Dre, someone, Harris, SJ, RJ
Our 2 additions this off-season are key.
Dre
Harris
Mook
KCP
RJ
SJ
?
?
Baynes
Meeks
Bullock
Hilliard
Re: Pistons could look to copy Oklahoma City's twin tower lineup
Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 3:07 am
by Cowology
Lemme just step into my hot-tub time machine and go grab Sheed circa 2002.
If we can grab a solid 16 mpg backup PF I think we're doing OK. A 26-28 mpg backup 4/5 would be spectacular, but not a lot of options out there. I'm more interested in adding a quality backup PG (who can defend) and seeing if Dre can become a better rim protector. It's guys driving the lane at will that is killing us more so than big PF abusing us in the post.
Re: Pistons could look to copy Oklahoma City's twin tower lineup
Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:33 am
by In SVG We Trust
dVs33 wrote:In SVG We Trust wrote:Pau a spur? No way Pop wants him destroying their defensive system
Just watch. I guarantee he'll be there next year.
We can make a PayPal account ruled by other mod and see what happens. How about a 30$ each one bet?
Re: Pistons could look to copy Oklahoma City's twin tower lineup
Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:52 am
by Alexander
Sadly, the only unrestricted free agent I see that fits the bill is Serge Ibaka. and he's on the model team that we're trying to emulate. and they're contenders. and now I'm getting sad, fantasizing about him in our starting lineup next to Dre.
Re: Pistons could look to copy Oklahoma City's twin tower lineup
Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 3:31 pm
by dVs33
In SVG We Trust wrote:dVs33 wrote:In SVG We Trust wrote:Pau a spur? No way Pop wants him destroying their defensive system
Just watch. I guarantee he'll be there next year.
We can make a PayPal account ruled by other mod and see what happens. How about a 30$ each one bet?
Or we could just see what happens
I'll give you a shout out on my next sig if I'm wrong