All the rules and issues have been hammered out in that thread, so I'll just recap the most important things quickly. After the draft, there will be a playoff tournament, matching up the GM with the first pick with the GM who picked last and so on.
The draft order is as follows:
Spoiler:
1.Lionlifer 2.Snakebites 3.Pharaoh 4.Warspite 5.Timmaytime 6.Laimbeer 7.RexRyan 8.Han Solo
There will be 10 rounds in the draft. The draft style will be ABBBABABA, which goes as follows:
Participants will have no more than 12 hours to make their selection. Anyone not choosing in 12 hours will "pass" on that round's selection. The missed picks will not be made up until all normal rounds are complete.
Here is the player pool.Participants must select two players of each position. All players are at their peak with the Pistons, not necessarily their career peak. Please make selections as quickly as possible. Please wait for me to acknowledge and post the previous selection before making yours. The player "up" will have their username embedded in the title of this thread.
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Centers (19)
Andre Drummond Greg Monroe Ben Wallace Theo Ratliff Bill Laimbeer Olden Polynice James Edwards Kent Benson Earl Cureton Paul Mokeski Bob Lanier Aron Baynes Mark West Amir Johnson Eric Montross Elden Campbell Christian Laettner Leon Douglas Nazr Mohammed
Power Forwards (19)
Dave Debusschere Anthony Tolliver Jonas JerebkoJosh Smith Charlie Villanueva Jason Maxiell Rasheed Wallace Antonio McDyess Mehmet Okur Clifford Robinson Tobias Harris Terry Mills Bison Dele Rick Mahorn Otis Thorpe John Salley Cliff Levingston Ersan Ilyasova Chris Webber
Small forwards (18)
Marcus Morris Tayshaun Prince Kyle Singler Austin Daye Corliss Williamson Jerome Williams Grant Hill Sean Elliott Dennis Rodman Mark Aguirre Orlando WoolridgeAdrian Dantley Kelly Tripucka M.L. Carr Stanley Johnson Caron ButlerTerry Tyler Phil Hubbard
Shooting Guards (18)
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope Ben Gordon Richard Hamilton Carlos Delfino Michael Curry Jon Barry Jerry Stackhouse Jud Buechler Allan Houston Arron Afflalo Vinnie Johnson John Long Ron LeeChris Ford Jodie MeeksJoe Dumars Allen Iverson Tracy McGrady
Point Guards (19)
Brandon Jennings Reggie Jackson Chauncey Billups Rodney Stuckey Will Bynum Brandon Knight Chucky Atkins Lindsey Hunter Isiah Thomas Eric Money Kevin Porter Dave Bing DJ Augustine Jose CalderonSteve Blake Flip Murray Dana Barros Mike James Darrell Walker
Drafted players (in order): Round 1:
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1. Isiah Thomas (Lionlifer) 2. Bob Lanier (Snakebites) 3. Ben Wallace (Pharoah) 4. Grant Hill (Warspite) 5. Chauncey Billups (Timmaytime) 6. Rasheed Wallace (Laimbeer) 7. Dave Bing (RexRyan) 8. Dennis Rodman (Han Solo)
Round 2:
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1. Joe Dumars (Han Solo) 2. Bill Laimbeer (RexRyan) 3. Andre Drummond (Laimbeer) 4. Tayshaun Prince (Timmaytime) 5. Allan Houston (Warspite) 6. Richard Hamilton (Pharoah) 7. Reggie Jackson (Snakebites) 8. Jerry Stackhouse (Lionlifer)
Round 3:
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1. Adrian Dantley (Han Solo) 2. Kelly Tripuka (RexRyan) 3. Dave DeBusschere (Laimbeer) 4. M.L. Carr (Timmaytime) 5. Theo Ratliff (Warspite) 6. Brandon Jennings (Pharoah) 7. Terry Mills (Snakebites) 8. Rick Mahorn (Lionlifer)
Round 4:
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1. John Salley (Han Solo) 2. Tobias Harris (RexRyan) 3. Kevin Porter (Laimbeer) 4. Otis Thorpe (Timmaytime) 5. Vinnie Johnson (Warspite) 6. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (Pharoah) 7. Lindsey Hunter (Snakebites) 8. Greg Monroe (Lionlifer)
Round 5:
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1. Marcus Morris(Lionlifer) 2. Mark Aguirre (Snakebites) 3. Cliff Robinson (Pharoah) 4. Bison Dele (Warspite) 5. Antonio McDyess (Timmaytime) 6. Chris Ford (Laimbeer) 7. Allen Iverson (RexRyan) 8. Brandon Knight (Han Solo)
Round 6:
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1. Stanley Johnson (Han Solo) 2. James Edwards (RexRyan) 3. Arron Afflalo (Laimbeer) 4. Jon Barry (Timmaytime) 5. John Long (Warspite) 6. Corliss Williamson (Pharoah) 7. Terry Tyler (Snakebites) 8. Mehmet Okur (Lionlifer)
Round 7:
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1. Rodney Stuckey (Lionlifer) 2. Mike James (Snakebites) 3. Jerome Williams (Pharoah) 4. Christian Laettner (Warspite) 5. Elden Campbell (Timmaytime) 6. Amir Johnson (Laimbeer) 7. Josh Smith (RexRyan) 8. Olden Polynice (Han Solo)
Round 8:
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1. Chucky Atkins (Han Solo) 2. Eric Money (RexRyan) 3. Jud Buechler (Laimbeer) 4. Sean Elliott (Timmaytime) 5. Tracy McGrady (Warspite) 6. Ben Gordon (Pharoah) 7. Chris Webber (Snakebites) 8. Kent Benson (Lionlifer)
Round 9:
Spoiler:
1. Phil Hubbard (Lionlifer) 2. Michael Curry (Snakebites) 3. Ersan Ilyasova (Pharoah) 4. Will Bynum (Warspite) 5. Darrell Walker (Timmaytime) 6. DJ Augustine (Laimbeer) 7. Orlando Woolridge (RexRyan) 8. Jonas Jerebko (Han Solo)
Round 10:
Spoiler:
1. Jodie Meeks (Han Solo) 2. Jose Calderon (RexRyan) 3. Caron Butler (Laimbeer) 4. Aron Baynes (Timmaytime) 5. (Warspite) 6. Jason Maxiell (Pharoah) 7. Kyle Singler (Snakebites) 8. Ron Lee (Lionlifer)
Teams:
Lionlifer
Spoiler:
1. Isiah Thomas 2. Jerry Stackhouse 3. Rick Mahorn 4. Greg Monroe 5. Marcus Morris 6. Mehmet Okur 7. Rodney Stuckey 8. Kent Benson 9. Phil Hubbard 10. Ron Lee
Snakebites
Spoiler:
1. Bob Lanier 2. Reggie Jackson 3. Terry Mills 4. Lindsey Hunter 5. Mark Aguirre 6. Terry Tyler 7. Mike James 8. Chris Webber 9. Michael Curry 10.Kyle Singler
Pharaoh
Spoiler:
1. Ben Wallace 2. Richard Hamilton 3. Brandon Jennings 4. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope 5. Cliff Robinson 6. Corliss Williamson 7. Jerome Williams 8. Ben Gordon 9. Ersan Ilyasova 10. Jason Maxiell
Warspite
Spoiler:
1. Grant Hill 2. Allan Houston 3. Theo Ratliff 4. Vinnie Johnson 5. Bison Dele 6. John Long 7. Christian Laettner 8. Tracy McGrady 9. Will Bynum 10.
Timmaytime
Spoiler:
1. Chauncey Billups 2. Tayshaun Prince 3. M.L. Carr 4. Otis Thorpe 5. Antonio McDyess 6. Jon Barry 7. Elden Campbell 8. Sean Elliott 9. Darrell Walker 10.Aron Baynes
Laimbeer
Spoiler:
1. Rasheed Wallace 2. Andre Drummond 3. Dave DeBusshere 4. Kevin Porter 5. Chris Ford 6. Arron Afflalo 7. Amir Johnson 8. Jud Buechler 9. DJ Augustine 10.Caron Butler
RexRyan
Spoiler:
1. Dave Bing 2. Bill Laimbeer 3. Kelly Tripuka 4. Tobias Harris 5. Allen Iverson 6. James Edwards 7. Josh Smith 8. Eric Money 9. Orlando Woolridge 10.Jose Calderon
Han Solo
Spoiler:
1. Dennis Rodman 2. Joe Dumars 3. Adrian Dantley 4. John Salley 5. Brandon Knight 6. Stanley Johnson 7. Olden Polynice 8. Chucky Atkins 9. Jonas Jerebko 10. Jodie Meeks
Re: Piston All-Time Fantasy League Draft - UP: Lionlifer
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 2:14 am
by Laimbeer
Lionlifer is up with the #1 overall pick!
Re: Piston All-Time Fantasy League Draft - UP: Lionlifer
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 3:03 am
by Snakebites
Number 2 pick. That'll present some pretty interesting dilemnas.
I won't lie, I really wanted a later pick. But hey, here we are.
Re: Piston All-Time Fantasy League Draft - UP: Lionlifer
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 3:18 am
by Pharaoh
Happy with 3...let's get after it
Re: Piston All-Time Fantasy League Draft - UP: Lionlifer
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 4:03 am
by RexRyan
Hey Lambs - how are we going to compete? Bracket-style? Posters vote one time on who has the best team? ???
Re: Piston All-Time Fantasy League Draft - UP: Lionlifer
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 5:04 am
by Snakebites
Wonder what options I'm left with. I feel there's a fairly clear top 3 choices here, but I'll admit I'm having trouble deciding between each pair of hypothetical options.
Re: Re: Re: Piston All-Time Fantasy League Draft - UP: Lionlifer
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 8:55 am
by Pharaoh
Snakebites wrote:Wonder what options I'm left with. I feel there's a fairly clear top 3 choices here, but I'll admit I'm having trouble deciding between each pair of hypothetical options.
One reason why I'm happy with a top 3 pick.
My entire team will be based on that choice if it goes the way I expect
Re: Piston All-Time Fantasy League Draft - UP: Lionlifer
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 12:12 pm
by Laimbeer
RexRyan wrote:Hey Lambs - how are we going to compete? Bracket-style? Posters vote one time on who has the best team? ???
I'm thinking bracket tournament with polls?
Re: Re: Re: Piston All-Time Fantasy League Draft - UP: Lionlifer
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 12:35 pm
by Laimbeer
Pharaoh wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Wonder what options I'm left with. I feel there's a fairly clear top 3 choices here, but I'll admit I'm having trouble deciding between each pair of hypothetical options.
One reason why I'm happy with a top 3 pick.
My entire team will be based on that choice if it goes the way I expect
Agree, I'd rather have a higher pick. There are a few players who are clearly in a higher tier, IMO. But still raring to go!
Re: Piston All-Time Fantasy League Draft - UP: Lionlifer
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 12:36 pm
by Timmaytime
Hmm 5th pick, this should be interesting.
I can also see a pretty clear top-3 but there's 2 guys after that who are pretty close so I don't think this choice should be too difficult. It'll be interesting to see who can get a legitimate offensive anchor cause I can't see many of them
Re: Re: Re: Piston All-Time Fantasy League Draft - UP: Lionlifer
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 1:30 pm
by Snakebites
Pharaoh wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Wonder what options I'm left with. I feel there's a fairly clear top 3 choices here, but I'll admit I'm having trouble deciding between each pair of hypothetical options.
One reason why I'm happy with a top 3 pick.
My entire team will be based on that choice if it goes the way I expect
Thing is, I feel there's a clear top 3. I doubt you agree about what that top 3 is, though.
I think there's a pretty solid chance that you, me and timmy (all of whom agree there's a top 3) disagree about who's in it.
BTW, we're looking at how good these guys were in their peaks as Pistons, right?
Re: Re: Re: Piston All-Time Fantasy League Draft - UP: Lionlifer
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 1:46 pm
by Laimbeer
Snakebites wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Wonder what options I'm left with. I feel there's a fairly clear top 3 choices here, but I'll admit I'm having trouble deciding between each pair of hypothetical options.
One reason why I'm happy with a top 3 pick.
My entire team will be based on that choice if it goes the way I expect
Thing is, I feel there's a clear top 3. I doubt you agree about what that top 3 is, though.
I think there's a pretty solid chance that you, me and timmy (all of whom agree there's a top 3) disagree about who's in it.
BTW, we're looking at how good these guys were in their peaks as Pistons, right?
Yes, I made sure to include that in the OP.
Re: Re: Piston All-Time Fantasy League Draft - UP: Lionlifer
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 2:12 pm
by Pharaoh
My top 3 are included in the list below:
Ben Wallace Bill Laimbeer Bob Lanier Rasheed Wallace Grant Hill Dennis Rodman Joe Dumars Chauncey Billups Isiah Thomas Dave Bing
Re: Re: Piston All-Time Fantasy League Draft - UP: Lionlifer
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 2:16 pm
by Snakebites
Pharaoh wrote:My top 3 are included in the list below:
Ben Wallace Bill Laimbeer Bob Lanier Rasheed Wallace Grant Hill Dennis Rodman Joe Dumars Chauncey Billups Isiah Thomas Dave Bing
Mine too!
Re: Re: Piston All-Time Fantasy League Draft - UP: Lionlifer
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 2:54 pm
by Laimbeer
Snakebites wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:My top 3 are included in the list below:
Ben Wallace Bill Laimbeer Bob Lanier Rasheed Wallace Grant Hill Dennis Rodman Joe Dumars Chauncey Billups Isiah Thomas Dave Bing
Mine too!
Yeah there's probably a drop after that. Which means I probably get just get one of them and don't get a top three type of guy in the first round either.
Re: Piston All-Time Fantasy League Draft - UP: Lionlifer
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 3:13 pm
by Lionlifer
Oh snap, first pick (sorry for the delay, work hours have been brutal).
With the first pick in the 2016 Piston All-Time Fantasy Draft, Lionlifer selects:
Isiah Thomas!
Re: Piston All-Time Fantasy League Draft - UP: Lionlifer
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 5:30 pm
by Laimbeer
ATTENTION: It was suggested the "two of each position" rule be removed, and in retrospect, I agree. Not a huge change, I just want to make sure all are aware of that before we draft, and I'm pretty sure it would not have impacted Lionlifer's selection of Isiah.
Re: Piston All-Time Fantasy League Draft - UP: Lionlifer
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 6:29 pm
by Lionlifer
Laimbeer wrote:ATTENTION: It was suggested the "two of each position" rule be removed, and in retrospect, I agree. Not a huge change, I just want to make sure all are aware of that before we draft, and I'm pretty sure it would not have impacted Lionlifer's selection of Isiah.
You are correct, wouldn't have impacted anything I did
Re: Piston All-Time Fantasy League Draft - UP: Snakebites
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 8:53 pm
by Snakebites
Hey guys, sorry about the delay, I had the chance to see a former president, so I had to take it.
I've waffled back and fourth quite a bit on this choice between 2 players (third pick would have been better so I wouldn't have had to choose), one of whom is an all time great for the franchise and the other of which was an integral part of my childhood, but I think the only rational one to make is:
Bob Lanier
Hands down the best center that has ever played for this team. Remarkable post skills, a reliable mid range game, and a remarkable passer for his size. This guy managed 25 points and 13 boards per game in a league that had the likes of Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Moses Malone, Nate Thurmond, and Bill Walton, and he stood tall among them as an elite center in the league.
Given the depth at the big spots and the likelihood that our other high end big guys will be gone before my next pick, this seems like the most logical choice to make.
Re: Piston All-Time Fantasy League Draft - UP: Pharoah
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 8:58 pm
by Snakebites
Also, hope you don't mind, I used my mod powers to update the thread.