DBC10 wrote:So as much as people crap on the Process in Philly, it worked, no? They were going nowhere with the likes of Evan Turner, Iggy, and Jrue but now they look like they're about to kill the Raps and go all the way to the ECF.
I mean, what defines the Process not working anyways? No chip = failure? That's a shallow way of looking at it, and it's not like they got swept like us every 3 years. I'd rather take the process over whatever the hell we concocted in the last ten years.
Keep in mind, this isn't even the full vision that Hinkie had, he was fired 2 years ago and they completely diverged from his plan since then. I don't think Hinkie trades up for Fultz nor goes after Tobias while giving up on Landry and picks. He was almost always a BPA at the draft.
when did the process start? 5-7 years ago?
zero ecfs or finals and the biggest move they made was for Butler and they gave up minor pieces that were hardly part of the process. that was the best move in the 5-7 years.
they're not killing the raptors, the series is even and Toronto has a much less talented group.
I think the point is mostly that tanking is overrated. you got Ben and embiid and still nothing close of value to show for it.
That's the entire point, the process hasn't even been finished yet, it's still even too soon to write it off as if it failed because the alternative would be as bad or at worst, they're even worse than they were off than now.
Toronto isn't more talented than they are overall, they got better bench pieces and fit better so that equals it out. No matter how bad Lowry craps the bed in the playoffs.
But I'm wondering what the alternatives were had they not tanked and continued to trot out Spencer Hawes, Jrue, and Evan Turner along with Andrew Bynum? Did that even make the ECF too? It didnt, FYI, they kept getting bounced by random teams so no better than where they're currently at right now, but at least they have a massively brighter future than where they were at a decade ago. They literally weren't going anywhere prior to Hinkie blowing up.
So, not rebuilding properly, and you end up like how our franchise is.