BAines for Ariza

Southern Piston · Post #1 » by **Southern Piston** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:31 pm

I don't know about this myself, I think in the playoffs he could help more than BAines, and really build competition for top level effort from our 2/3 and still allow for trades in the future.

chrbal · Post #2 » by **chrbal** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:45 pm

I think if Houston is dealing anyone its Brewer. Ariza is 31 and Brewer is 30. Ariza can shoot 3s, Brewer, not really. And they make about the same amount of money, for the same period of time. With the way payrolls are going, I would trade Aron Baynes for Corey Brewer, i'm not sure Houston would. Can't see them trading Ariza for him.

mattao313 · Post #3 » by **mattao313** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:55 pm

Corey Brewer is horrible they would probably give him away.

chrbal · Post #4 » by **chrbal** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:59 pm

I don't think hes horrible. Gives the Pistons another long defender.

Alexander · Post #5 » by **Alexander** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:06 pm

I'm only interested in trading Baynes by himself for a PG or SG or combo guard.

harisahmad · Post #6 » by **harisahmad** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:08 pm

that would weaken our frontcourt and I don't think Boban is ready to be the first big man off the bench

chrbal · Post #7 » by **chrbal** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:18 pm

We also shouldn't trade Baynes yet.

coordinator0 · Post #8 » by **coordinator0** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:04 am

Houston wouldn't trade Ariza for Baynes. They can't afford to with Harden and Anderson definitely starting and possibly Gordon as well. Defense has to come from somewhere in the starting lineup outside. Besides, they have Capela and signed Nene with Motiejunas still a restricted free agent. The Rockets are fine at center.

Pharaoh · Post #9 » by **Pharaoh** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:29 am

harisahmad wrote:that would weaken our frontcourt and I don't think Boban is ready to be the first big man off the bench

JL gonna be the first big off the bench though.

If Houston was willing to part with an asset to move Brewer I'd consider him.

Dre 33, JL 15 (Boban)
Harris 28, JL 10, King 10
Mook 28, SJ 20
KCP 28, SJ 10
RJ 30, Ish 18

Brewer, Bullock & Hilliard would be fighting for 10-15 minutes a game so the asset that comes with Brewer would be the real reason to take him...

And it's insurance for next off-season when Bull & KCP can get PAID

Alexander · Post #10 » by **Alexander** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:18 am

I love how you're trying to make King Henry happen.
So fetch.

A_dub06 · Post #11 » by **A_dub06** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:33 am

Trade him to Toronto for Bebe!

Would love to see a Drummond/Boban/Noguiera rotation at centre for us. That rotation has talent, skill and upside. I know Baynes is the better player atm but I still think Bebe has great defensive potential and he can run the floor well for a big.

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BadMofoPimp · Post #12 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:56 pm

Pistons already have Bullock, SJ and Hilliard. There is Zero need for Ariza. Baynes is needed for Front Court depth this entire season.

Post #13 » by **dVs33** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:01 pm

I'd rather hang on to baynes. We got plenty of SFs.

The Penguin · Post #14 » by **The Penguin** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:07 pm

I think Ariza and Beverly are viewed as keys around Harden. Both guys can spot up for threes and will go all out defensively with minimum offensive involvement required.

BadMofoPimp · Post #15 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:12 pm

I think it is hilarious when Fans see a good player and think, "I want to weaken depth at one position to add that player I like to a crowded position."

Scottgaf · Post #16 » by **Scottgaf** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:34 pm

I doubt Houston is willing to trade with us anytime soon, period.

DBC10 · Post #17 » by **DBC10** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:20 pm

Bullock is going to need to be paid soon so unless he re-signs for an absolute steal of a deal, I'd rather try to maneuver for Ariza since his cap hit supposedly goes down each year. And he's a more proven commodity with being in the league and the playoffs for a while. Ariza on paper may fit better with the starters anyways.

Pharaoh · Post #18 » by **Pharaoh** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:29 pm

Alexander wrote:I love how you're trying to make King Henry happen.
So fetch.

In my mind it's already happened.

Like Cow and VanBower :-)

Darko Miliminutes · Post #19 » by **Darko Miliminutes** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:30 pm

Ariza and KCP are the exact same player. Ariza gets hot from deep a little more often, and is a couple inches taller.

Could do better if trading Baines, certainly in a big for small trade scenario.

BadMofoPimp · Post #20 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:08 am

I think Houston would consider because they lost Dwight. Detroit will probably need Baynes this season than Ariza this season. SVG has coached Ariza before and used him alot as a backup back then I do recall. I doubt this would happen. Wouldn't doubt it tho if Boban surprises in camp. I wouldn't as having big depth trumps wing depth. I really want to see if Bullock and Hilliard continue in their development. Plus, I doubt Ariza would be happy as a backup after being a starter for 3 consecutive seasons for the last 158 games. If moved, he is a starter. Detroit would have to add talent to make this happen. I still wouldn't do it as Ariza would not want to be a backup and they could get a better return.

Besides, if Baynes is moved, I reckon SVG and Bower hold out for a steal of a trade like the RJ deal. No rush and better to keep Baynes.