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Is Stanley Johnson on his way to being a BUST?
Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2016 1:56 am
by Han Solo
Discuss.
Re: Is Stanley Johnson on his way to being a BUST?
Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2016 1:57 am
by coordinator0
No.
Re: Is Stanley Johnson on his way to being a BUST?
Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2016 2:00 am
by JD43320
He will be out of the league after his rookie contract is up.
Re: Is Stanley Johnson on his way to being a BUST?
Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2016 2:11 am
by joedumars1
No. You can't say that yet, but wow has he been way way way underwhelming to me
Re: Is Stanley Johnson on his way to being a BUST?
Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2016 2:13 am
by MrBigShot
I want to say no. Even if he doesn't meet the lofty expectations a lot of posters have for him he showed flashes of being an average starting level wing last year.The past 5 games he's been more or less invisible, but I'm going to hope that's an aberration.
One thing is for certain: his confidence/pride in himself and his actual talent and potential are worlds apart from each other. If you want to call yourself the best player in your draft and call out Kevin Durant and LeBron publicly throughout the course of the year you have to have the talent to back it up.
Re: Is Stanley Johnson on his way to being a BUST?
Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2016 2:16 am
by DBC10
Too early to tell still.
But underwhelming with all the big talk he did last year? It's not even up for debate, yes he is.
Here's food for thought. Nobody knows what exactly his role is on this team. Is he a 3&D guy? Is he a post up guy? Is he a defender? Is he a point forward?
Apparently SJ doesn't either. He looks absolutely clueless out there. At this point we can't go wrong with one of Hilliard or Gbenejie out there since Bullock is injured.
Re: Is Stanley Johnson on his way to being a BUST?
Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2016 2:17 am
by MotownMadness
I don't know what to think about him anymore. He was the player I had the highest hopes for this season and he's looked terrible.
Re: Is Stanley Johnson on his way to being a BUST?
Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2016 2:19 am
by engelbert321
If you compare him to his draft mates, it is looking that way. I'd still give him 1 more year to figure it out
Re: Is Stanley Johnson on his way to being a BUST?
Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2016 2:19 am
by JD43320
He's not a 3&D guy because he can't shoot. He's not a post up guy because he has no post game. He's not a point forward because he's not a good play maker.
Re: Is Stanley Johnson on his way to being a BUST?
Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2016 2:20 am
by mattao313
I liked the pick so much but probably, please let me take my L in peace.
Re: Is Stanley Johnson on his way to being a BUST?
Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2016 2:20 am
by Han Solo
Stanley Johnson through 5 games -
1.5 ppg, 3 rpg, 1.2 apg, .125 FG%, .167 3 FG%, in 19 mins a game
Re: Is Stanley Johnson on his way to being a BUST?
Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2016 2:20 am
by PistonsSince85
Package him and trade. SJ/Baynes, SJ/KCP.
Re: Is Stanley Johnson on his way to being a BUST?
Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2016 2:21 am
by Freddie Mitch
What happened to him? Just curious. I was excited last season, he showed a lot of promise as a rookie. Did he not work on his game this summer? It definitely seems like he's regressed. He's a local kid (I'm from Santa Ana, CA where Stanley went to HS) so I was interested in keeping up with his progress. Everything I've heard about him made him seem like a gym rat and a hard worker, so I'm a bit perplexed at how poorly he's been playing so far. Hopefully just an early sophomore slump.
Re: Is Stanley Johnson on his way to being a BUST?
Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2016 2:23 am
by engelbert321
JD43320 wrote:He's not a 3&D guy because he can't shoot. He's not a post up guy because he has no post game. He's not a point forward because he's not a good play maker.
I really think he should just focus on defense and being a lock down defender, ie. Tony Allen
Re: Is Stanley Johnson on his way to being a BUST?
Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2016 2:24 am
by Han Solo
Freddie Mitch wrote:What happened to him? Just curious. I was excited last season, he showed a lot of promise as a rookie. Did he not work on his game this summer? It definitely seems like he's regressed. He's a local kid (I'm from Santa Ana, CA where Stanley went to HS) so I was interested in keeping up with his progress. Everything I've heard about him made him seem like a gym rat and a hard worker, so I'm a bit perplexed at how poorly he's been playing so far. Hopefully just an early sophomore slump.
Hope so too. Looks pretty lost out there though.
Re: Is Stanley Johnson on his way to being a BUST?
Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2016 2:25 am
by Cowology
He's been disappointing so far, no other way to put it. That said, it's waaaaay to early to write him off. I'm interested to see how he works himself out of this funk he's in. It's possible his skillset isn't a good fit with this roster and offensive scheme and he may be blossom someplace else, but I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet.
Re: Is Stanley Johnson on his way to being a BUST?
Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2016 2:26 am
by Han Solo
Cowology wrote:He's been disappointing so far, no other way to put it. That said, it's waaaaay to early to write him off. I'm interested to see how he works himself out of this funk he's in. It's possible his skillset isn't a good fit with this roster and offensive scheme and he may be blossom someplace else, but I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet.
He's so bad right now, it almost looks like he's doing it on purpose as an "F you" to Van Gundy.. That's the vibe I get.. Who knows man..
Re: Is Stanley Johnson on his way to being a BUST?
Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2016 2:29 am
by PicheDreams
stans 4 out 1 in offense doesnt really work with stanley. He need take a page from Tobias Harris and drive more to the basket and try to finish strong. maybe that will help his confidence
Re: Is Stanley Johnson on his way to being a BUST?
Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2016 3:12 am
by coordinator0
DBC10 wrote:Too early to tell still.
But underwhelming with all the big talk he did last year? It's not even up for debate, yes he is.
Here's food for thought. Nobody knows what exactly his role is on this team. Is he a 3&D guy? Is he a post up guy? Is he a defender? Is he a point forward?
Apparently SJ doesn't either. He looks absolutely clueless out there. At this point we can't go wrong with one of Hilliard or Gbenejie out there since Bullock is injured.
This. Johnson has the least defined role of anybody on the team and it's not helping him. I really like the improvements made most everywhere else, but Stanley has been marginalized a bit. That's not to say he isn't at blame because his offensive contributions have been horrendous thus far.
Detroit is in a weird spot with him. He's not really a two and adding a capable backup PF in Leuer allows Harris and/or Morris more time at the three. All of those guys figure to be around for a while. And then you hopefully have a contributor in Ellenson, who will likely be playing PF exclusively enough that any minutes at C aren't significant. I wouldn't be totally against trading Johnson for a backup two/combo guard who's a plus shooter with comparable value, but I don't think anybody like that is available either.
Re: Is Stanley Johnson on his way to being a BUST?
Posted: Thu Nov 3, 2016 3:23 am
by Pharaoh
LMAO!
He's played less than 82 games in his career & already he's a bust
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