SVG grilled by Valenti on 97.1

[ImHeisenberg]

https://nyc.podcast.play.it/media/d0/d0/d1/dE/dZ/dI/d7/1EZI7_3.MP3?listeningSessionID=5919afcd69a768d1_848225_aOHjTbqx__0000000zaK7

Valenti gets SVG going in this interview. Worth the 20 minute listen.

[Moses ShamMoses]

Thanks for posting. Valenti asked some tough questions and SVG handled himself well. SVG does seem content to make incremental improvements and hope for the best. Not sure if he truly thinks we have a legit chance at a deep playoff run or not during his tenure. I didn't like that he kept talking about how Drummond and himself need to be better. That's obvious but how is he actually going to do that? Whats the plan?

[MotownMadness]

Awesome stuff, Good for SVG to go in there as he knew it wouldn't be easy.

[Pharaoh]

I think it re-enforces what SVG has said all along:

For Detroit tearing it down when he was hired was never an option

Not only does SVG not believe it leads anywhere good in a reasonable time frame but that Gores and the market wouldn't tolerate it.

Also touched on how cap room isn't much good to a team that would be forced to overpay to get guys here...how they deliberately went after team friendly contracts.

The part about building the best team you can:

People take that to mean the playing talent NOW

I think SVG actually means building the best team as you go along.

It's why we don't have a loy of aging vets. It's why most of our key guys are under 25.

Assuming I'm correct on that:

Drummond - Bobo
Jon - Mook - King
Tobias - SJ
KCP
RJ - Ish

That represents our core group for the next couple of years

We own all our firsts moving forward, almost everyone is on a reasonable contract...

Making trades is an option but as SVG said you need partners in those deals.

I think he looks at that group as thinks "we're in the playoff mix"

And once you get there anything can happen if you don't face Lebron in the first round

We didn't get there this season...made it the year before. Switch that around and how negative would we be?

We also have to remember we're the die hard hardcore fans here - not the majority of the fan base

For some it's title or bust...but for Gores & SVG it's more complicated than that

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[BadMofoPimp]

After witnessing failed tanking by teams like Orlando has had for the past 5 years while they are still worse than Detroit, I want nothing to do with watching the Pistons be bottom feeders for the next 5 years. Tankers normally end up no better than teams that do not tank. Maybe, one team in 5 actually gets lucky. Because, that is all it is, getting lucky after wasting years of player development, employees jobs and fans time.

[whitehops]

After witnessing failed tanking by teams like Orlando has had for the past 5 years while they are still worse than Detroit, I want nothing to do with watching the Pistons be bottom feeders for the next 5 years. Tankers normally end up no better than teams that do not tank. Maybe, one team in 5 actually gets lucky. Because, that is all it is, getting lucky after wasting years of player development, employees jobs and fans time.

one of the things "pro-tank" people don't really seem to mention is how rare it is for tanking to "work". this guy was a clear example of that, he was so quick and so emphatic to point out the like two actual examples where a team tanked and one player turned their franchise around. there are countless teams like the orlandos, sacramentos, minnesotas of the league that nobody will remember because they were largely irrelevant. that those 2, 3 examples are the main supporting points for tanking is kind of crazy.

also kind of funny that it's such a big problem that we're capped out when even if we had max money available we wouldn't be able to land an all-star level player with it. i understand that it limits other, smaller transactions as well but that's not a huge reason to get upset imo.


honestly, the majority of the nba is "stuck" where they don't have an elite player which more or less caps their potential and i think a lot of those teams should try to make incremental improvements and hope that somewhere along the way they get lucky. i think that's a more realistic approach than tearing it up every chance you get in the hopes you end up with the next lebron.

[MotownMadness]

After witnessing failed tanking by teams like Orlando has had for the past 5 years while they are still worse than Detroit, I want nothing to do with watching the Pistons be bottom feeders for the next 5 years. Tankers normally end up no better than teams that do not tank. Maybe, one team in 5 actually gets lucky. Because, that is all it is, getting lucky after wasting years of player development, employees jobs and fans time.

one of the things "pro-tank" people don't really seem to mention is how rare it is for tanking to "work". this guy was a clear example of that, he was so quick and so emphatic to point out the like two actual examples where a team tanked and one player turned their franchise around. there are countless teams like the orlandos, sacramentos, minnesotas of the league that nobody will remember because they were largely irrelevant. that those 2, 3 examples are the main supporting points for tanking is kind of crazy.

also kind of funny that it's such a big problem that we're capped out when even if we had max money available we wouldn't be able to land an all-star level player with it. i understand that it limits other, smaller transactions as well but that's not a huge reason to get upset imo.


honestly, the majority of the nba is "stuck" where they don't have an elite player which more or less caps their potential and i think a lot of those teams should try to make incremental improvements and hope that somewhere along the way they get lucky. i think that's a more realistic approach than tearing it up every chance you get in the hopes you end up with the next lebron.

My stance on it is I go into every season looking to win but when you hit a certain point of a season and realize your going nowhere you have to know when to pull the plug and start thinking draft.

[MotownMadness]

You guys think Drummond may take things more seriously this year? I mean he's being ragged more then ever about his effort now. Hopefully he's embarrassed and tries to play the right way.

I mean he can still be a very effective player if he goes back to garbage man role. I'm talking the 60fg% 60TS% big man he was his first couple years in the league.

[DETermination]

This was a great listen, it's nice seeing tough questions being asked to SVG and I liked most of the answers that Stan gave. I really do hope Andre can turn things around and become an even better player.

[detroitKG]

lmao I've always defended Mike but he came of as a douche here...SVG handled himself well and made good points, especially on Dre.

[Kilo]

Andre Drummond is going on his SIXTH season in the league. Who gives a flying frig if some one time red shirt senior is older than him in this years draft - that excuse is so damn tired and played out. He is who he is going to be at this point. And what he is is not good enough.

[jakebernat]

lmao I've always defended Mike but he came of as a douche here...SVG handled himself well and made good points, especially on Dre.

Lol please, I've never once listened to valenti and thought he didn't sound like a giant douche.

BUT I will give this a listen, my buddy texted me while it was happening and said it was the greatest radio interview of a coach he's ever heard lol

[BadMofoPimp]

After witnessing failed tanking by teams like Orlando has had for the past 5 years while they are still worse than Detroit, I want nothing to do with watching the Pistons be bottom feeders for the next 5 years. Tankers normally end up no better than teams that do not tank. Maybe, one team in 5 actually gets lucky. Because, that is all it is, getting lucky after wasting years of player development, employees jobs and fans time.

one of the things "pro-tank" people don't really seem to mention is how rare it is for tanking to "work". this guy was a clear example of that, he was so quick and so emphatic to point out the like two actual examples where a team tanked and one player turned their franchise around. there are countless teams like the orlandos, sacramentos, minnesotas of the league that nobody will remember because they were largely irrelevant. that those 2, 3 examples are the main supporting points for tanking is kind of crazy.

also kind of funny that it's such a big problem that we're capped out when even if we had max money available we wouldn't be able to land an all-star level player with it. i understand that it limits other, smaller transactions as well but that's not a huge reason to get upset imo.


honestly, the majority of the nba is "stuck" where they don't have an elite player which more or less caps their potential and i think a lot of those teams should try to make incremental improvements and hope that somewhere along the way they get lucky. i think that's a more realistic approach than tearing it up every chance you get in the hopes you end up with the next lebron.

Nobody will ever be "Capped Out". Teams are always capable of making trades to reduce salary.

[detroitKG]

lmao I've always defended Mike but he came of as a douche here...SVG handled himself well and made good points, especially on Dre.

Lol please, I've never once listened to valenti and thought he didn't sound like a giant douche.

BUT I will give this a listen, my buddy texted me while it was happening and said it was the greatest radio interview of a coach he's ever heard lol

Yea I should have explained it better in my original post...the questions we're hard hitting and quite good, some not so much...it was much more about the way Valenti presented himself and the interview that left me thinking wtf was that lol

[Pharaoh]

Andre Drummond is going on his SIXTH season in the league. Who gives a flying frig if some one time red shirt senior is older than him in this years draft - that excuse is so damn tired and played out. He is who he is going to be at this point. And what he is is not good enough.

LMAO!

That's your comment after listening to the interview?

Dre is 24 years old! Apparently is what he is?

How many players don't improve at all from age 24 through 30?

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[Pharaoh]

lmao I've always defended Mike but he came of as a douche here...SVG handled himself well and made good points, especially on Dre.

Lol please, I've never once listened to valenti and thought he didn't sound like a giant douche.

BUT I will give this a listen, my buddy texted me while it was happening and said it was the greatest radio interview of a coach he's ever heard lol

The interviewer comes off as a aggressive fanboy.

About Dre, about not tanking, about being in NBA purgatory...

His approach IMO was unprofessional but Stan handled him well

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[tradez401]

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[MotownMadness]

lmao I've always defended Mike but he came of as a douche here...SVG handled himself well and made good points, especially on Dre.

Lol please, I've never once listened to valenti and thought he didn't sound like a giant douche.

BUT I will give this a listen, my buddy texted me while it was happening and said it was the greatest radio interview of a coach he's ever heard lol

The interviewer comes off as a aggressive fanboy.

About Dre, about not tanking, about being in NBA purgatory...

His approach IMO was unprofessional but Stan handled him well

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He's a bit of a Detroit sports hater but I actually like Valenti. Guy knows his stuff and tells it like it is. Don't really listen to the radio much anymore though.

[Pharaoh]

Lol please, I've never once listened to valenti and thought he didn't sound like a giant douche.

BUT I will give this a listen, my buddy texted me while it was happening and said it was the greatest radio interview of a coach he's ever heard lol

The interviewer comes off as a aggressive fanboy.

About Dre, about not tanking, about being in NBA purgatory...

His approach IMO was unprofessional but Stan handled him well

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He's a bit of a Detroit sports hater but I actually like Valenti. Guy knows his stuff and tells it like it is. Don't really listen to the radio much anymore though.

I don't think there was anything wrong with the topics he asked about...it's the way he asked and acted.

I guess that's why he has a radio show - mellow dudes don't get those spots

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[Alexander]

SVG was very political about a lot of those questions, but there's really no other way he can answer. What's he supposed to say, that they're stuck in mediocrity? That winning a championship isn't realistic for the next five years? That Drummond is more likely to continue regressing than ever approach his ceiling? I wish somebody else had been asking the same questions in a less cynical fashion.