Detroit Pistons 2017-18 Trade Thread

coordinator0 · Post #1 » by **coordinator0** » Thu Jun 1, 2017 3:45 pm

Looks like we don't have one of these yet and it's nice to have all the trade ideas in one thread. I'll start it off.

The Lakers are supposedly open/wanting to trade Jordan Clarkson. With them likely selecting Lonzo Ball with the second pick in a few weeks that makes sense, although a rotation of those two and Russell seems like it would be really good too. Anyways, would anybody be interested in trading Leuer and the 12th pick for Clarkson and the 28th pick?

The money is fairly close this year with Jordan making more over the last two years than Jon. Leuer actually fits pretty well with the Lakers since their other bigs are Randle, Nance, Zubac, Black, and Mozgov. He might have positive value for them. The Lakers adding the 28th pick might be egregious on their end but moving up 16 spots is costly.

For Detroit Clarkson doesn't really upgrade the shooting but he completes the backcourt and is the combo guard off the bench many have been craving. He could play with any of Jackson, Smith, or Caldwell-Pope. That's a lot of money invested into the guards but at the same time it's pretty much just shifting Leuer's salary into the backcourt and helps alleviate the logjam at forward.

I'm not in love with the idea, but it makes some sense and rounds out the team better. Thoughts?

Post #2 » by **TyCobb** » Thu Jun 1, 2017 4:03 pm

I definitely think there is some potential here but the point of moving Clarkson is to free up some salary. Leuer defeats that purpose.

mattao313 · Post #3 » by **mattao313** » Thu Jun 1, 2017 4:21 pm

Clarkson is no go to me one of the worse defensive players I've seen and like you said not a consistent shooter.

DCintheD · Post #4 » by **DCintheD** » Thu Jun 1, 2017 4:23 pm

I'm interested in seeing what happens with Phoenix.

Drummond and Reggie for Bledsoe, Chandler, and Knight intrigues me and makes sense for both sides. We could even do the trade without including Chandler or Knight.

sinnombre2323 · Post #5 » by **sinnombre2323** » Thu Jun 1, 2017 4:29 pm

Just trade for ricky rubio. He's everything this team needs as a PG

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sc8581 · Post #6 » by **sc8581** » Thu Jun 1, 2017 6:11 pm

Clarkston would be a good 3rd guard but I wouldn't trade the pick for him.

pistons4ever · Post #7 » by **pistons4ever** » Thu Jun 1, 2017 6:13 pm

Would you trade our pick for jabari parker?only Hypothetical...or pick +morris

MotownMadness · Post #8 » by **MotownMadness** » Thu Jun 1, 2017 6:18 pm

pistons4ever wrote:Would you trade our pick for jabari parker?only Hypothetical...or pick +morris

Yes, the injuries are scary but he's still a very talented player.

sc8581 · Post #9 » by **sc8581** » Thu Jun 1, 2017 6:49 pm

pistons4ever wrote:Would you trade our pick for jabari parker?only Hypothetical...or pick +morris

No, he's a terrible defender, to me it's wasting an asset.

coordinator0 · Post #10 » by **coordinator0** » Thu Jun 1, 2017 8:47 pm

Man, reading the thread on the T&T board makes me think I'm really overstating Clarkson's value. I've been high on him but the ideas being floated around for the Lakers dumping him seem outrageously bad to me.

TyCobb wrote:I definitely think there is some potential here but the point of moving Clarkson is to free up some salary. Leuer defeats that purpose.

Thanks, I wasn't sure what the motive behind trading Clarkson was. Opening up some salary makes sense although I don't think it would be a great idea without a high-probability move in mind to be made with the new cap space.

coordinator0 · Post #11 » by **coordinator0** » Sat Jun 3, 2017 2:10 pm

The idea of Rodney Hood and the 24th pick for the 12th pick and salary filler was brought up on the trade board. Would that interest anybody? I'm thinking the salary filler would be Hilliard so no loss there. Hood will be in the final season of his rookie contract but he can shoot. Not at an extremely high level though. Before looking into it I thought he was better than his last couple of seasons.

Still, that sounds like one of the better ideas out there if the Pistons are set on adding a player ready to contribute now.

MotownMadness · Post #12 » by **MotownMadness** » Sat Jun 3, 2017 2:25 pm

coordinator0 wrote:The idea of Rodney Hood and the 24th pick for the 12th pick and salary filler was brought up on the trade board. Would that interest anybody? I'm thinking the salary filler would be Hilliard so no loss there. Hood will be in the final season of his rookie contract but he can shoot. Not at an extremely high level though. Before looking into it I thought he was better than his last couple of seasons.

Still, that sounds like one of the better ideas out there if the Pistons are set on adding a player ready to contribute now.

Wouldn't hate it, would want to try and dump some salary like Leuer in the deal as well though. Then just draft Frank Jackson

mattao313 · Post #13 » by **mattao313** » Sat Jun 3, 2017 3:27 pm

Hood is basically KCP without the defense and hustle.

MotownMadness · Post #14 » by **MotownMadness** » Sat Jun 3, 2017 3:59 pm

mattao313 wrote:Hood is basically KCP without the defense and hustle.

Pretty much but he does have more size to him.

Kilo · Post #15 » by **Kilo** » Sat Jun 3, 2017 7:37 pm

Sounds like this board is holding out for James or Durant.

mattao313 · Post #16 » by **mattao313** » Sat Jun 3, 2017 8:14 pm

Kilo wrote:Sounds like this board is holding out for James or Durant.

Sure if not wanting Clarkson, Hood, Rubio is holding out for James or Durant than so be it.

thesack12 · Post #17 » by **thesack12** » Sun Jun 4, 2017 12:17 am

pistons4ever wrote:Would you trade our pick for jabari parker?only Hypothetical...or pick +morris

Not sure why, but there is a lack of responses to this.

Anyways, I would be all over this. Injury history withstanding, Parker still has mass upside and star potential. If this framework of a trade was even somewhat realistic is easily represents Detroit's best shot at aquiring a star. Highly unlikely the 12th pick brings a legit star.

If you get Parker and he returns to form and stays healthy next season, you happily give him a big extension next summer. If it doesn't work out, oh well you made a big swing which is what this team needs to do and the 12th pick probably wouldn't have gotten a great chance to develop anyways.

coordinator0 · Post #18 » by **coordinator0** » Sun Jun 4, 2017 12:46 am

Yeah, I don't think that's close for Milwaukee. That's why I didn't respond. They're going to hold onto Parker unless some ridiculous offer comes along. The 12th pick and Marcus Morris is not it.

thesack12 · Post #19 » by **thesack12** » Sun Jun 4, 2017 1:04 am

coordinator0 wrote:Yeah, I don't think that's close for Milwaukee. That's why I didn't respond. They're going to hold onto Parker unless some ridiculous offer comes along. The 12th pick and Marcus Morris is not it.

Yeah, the value for Milwaukee is pretty crappy with that deal. If Parker was available, I'm sure another team could beat that offer.

However, I will say that I'm unaware of Milwaukee's cap situation with Giannis set for a huge extension and Parker being up next summer. If they aren't in a great cap spot, I could see Morris' contract being attractive to them and he's still a solid player so he provides on court value for them as well.

Even with all that, Detroit would need to add sweetener. I would say throw in Stanley but he's probably a negative commodity at this point. Maybe a top 10 protected future 1st?

coordinator0 · Post #20 » by **coordinator0** » Sun Jun 4, 2017 1:59 am

That might get it done, although you have to consider that Milwaukee might be good with paying Jabari too it's the only way they're getting another star (if he develops that far) to play with Giannis. And then Middleton getting back healthy gives them that third really, really good player. Maybe Maker turns into something too.

To me Milwaukee has the best shot at competing with Cleveland in the East if their young guys pan out so I think they will be okay with spending big. I might rather be them than Boston even with the latter having a couple of high picks coming in.