Detroit Pistons 2017-18 Trade Thread

rmfc · Post #1101 » by **rmfc** » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:22 pm

No to the Rubio trade. We are struggling with just 4 decent scorers (with below average defense overall).

Kilo · Post #1102 » by **Kilo** » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:27 pm

Man, am I crazy for wanting Zach Randolph here? He's one of the last true hardmen in the NBA anymore but he's also too "keepin it real" off the court it seems. But I also think Dre plays a little soft at times because he's scared - Boogie Cousins wanted nothing to do with Zach during a recent game between their respective teams.

Can't imagine Stan would want anything to so with Z-Bo unfortunately.

Leuer and Ellenson for Zach Randolph works. Henry makes up for them taking on Leuer's second year.

Randolph could play the five here right?

Jackson|Smith
Bradley|Galloway|Kennard
Johnson|(Harris)
Harris|Randolph|Tolliver
Drummond|Randolph|Marjanovic

Canadafan · Post #1103 » by **Canadafan** » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:32 pm

I still like trying to get Chandler and Dudley while keeping SJ.

whitehops · Post #1104 » by **whitehops** » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:55 pm

Canadafan wrote:I still like trying to get Chandler and Dudley while keeping SJ.

it's tough to work a trade for those two since they make a decent amount (~$23 million combined).

this is the most likely scenario:

leuer, boban and ellenson (we'd likely have to throw in a pick) for chandler and dudley.

you can exchange galloway for boban or SJ/kennard for ellenson but the point remains...

dudley and chandler are under contract next year, it's tough to tell if the suns would be willing to take on leuer (under contract for the next two season) in return.

Canadafan · Post #1105 » by **Canadafan** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:20 am

^^Nice. Thanks. Even just getting Dudley would be a fantastic move. Helps to have a good vet like him helping stanley

coolness · Post #1106 » by **coolness** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:05 am

A.Bradley and S.Johnson
for
Josh Jackson

why?
vet leadership and 3pt. shooting of Bradley, both guys play hard defense

why?
4 years of a guy with a high upside, saves money

coolness · Post #1107 » by **coolness** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:08 am

H.Ellenson, B.Marjanovic
for
D.Favors

why?
Utah saves money this year and next and then the next year has just Ellenson who has good range next to Gobert.

why?
maybe Favors will bounce back more and maybe somehow fit next to Drummond. He'll certainly fit behind him.

mercury · Post #1108 » by **mercury** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:19 am

I might be in the minority but I like Boban and think he brings that consistent scoring and rebounding... sure he lacks mobility but I think other teams will have to adjust more by doubling down.

coolness · Post #1109 » by **coolness** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:36 am

T.Harris, J.Leuer
for
N.Batum

why?
Tobias is the best player. Allow J.Lamb and M.Monk to play/score more.
why?
Money. Batum might improve at offense and defense playing more at the 3/4.

coolness · Post #1110 » by **coolness** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:39 am

R.Jackson/I.Smith/D.Buycks
L.Kennard/L.Galloway/L.Montero
N.Batum/J.Jackson/R.Bullock
D.Favors/A.Tolliver
A.Drummond/E.Moreland

^
if my 3 fanboy trades all happened. Need to sign a FA big or get a big included from Charlotte.

GreekAlex · Post #1111 » by **GreekAlex** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:00 am

Kilo wrote:Man, am I crazy for wanting Zach Randolph here? He's one of the last true hardmen in the NBA anymore but he's also too "keepin it real" off the court it seems. But I also think Dre plays a little soft at times because he's scared - Boogie Cousins wanted nothing to do with Zach during a recent game between their respective teams.

Can't imagine Stan would want anything to so with Z-Bo unfortunately.

Leuer and Ellenson for Zach Randolph works. Henry makes up for them taking on Leuer's second year.

Randolph could play the five here right?

Jackson|Smith
Bradley|Galloway|Kennard
Johnson|(Harris)
Harris|Randolph|Tolliver
Drummond|Randolph|Marjanovic

Not sure Sac wants to tie up extra money for extra years but if Bowers can convince them you have my blessing for this deal.

GreekAlex · Post #1112 » by **GreekAlex** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:10 am

mercury wrote:I might be in the minority but I like Boban and think he brings that consistent scoring and rebounding... sure he lacks mobility but I think other teams will have to adjust more by doubling down.

His rebounding looks horrible to me.

I enjoy his offense and unique game but for a guy his size it's so frustrating watching him try to rebound.

GreekAlex · Post #1113 » by **GreekAlex** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:14 am

coolness wrote:T.Harris, J.Leuer
for
N.Batum

why?
Tobias is the best player. Allow J.Lamb and M.Monk to play/score more.
why?
Money. Batum might improve at offense and defense playing more at the 3/4.

Batums contract is horrible. Tobias is way better, less injury prone, younger and trending up.

GreekAlex · Post #1114 » by **GreekAlex** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:39 am

Need input on a trade idea:

Det out: SJ, Boban, Leuer
Det in: Wilson Chandler, Tyson Chandler

Den out: Wilson Chandler, Emanuel Mudiay
Den in: SJ & Boban

PHX out: Tyson Chandler
PHX in: Emanuel Mudiay & Jon Leuer

Kilo · Post #1115 » by **Kilo** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:58 am

GreekAlex wrote:Need input on a trade idea:

Det out: SJ, Boban, Leuer
Det in: Wilson Chandler, Tyson Chandler

Den out: Wilson Chandler, Emanuel Mudiay
Den in: SJ & Boban

PHX out: Tyson Chandler
PHX in: Emanuel Mudiay & Jon Leuer

Denver's getting wrecked. We'd need to include a first rounder going to them at least.

The Penguin · Post #1116 » by **The Penguin** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:40 pm

Kilo wrote:Man, am I crazy for wanting Zach Randolph here? He's one of the last true hardmen in the NBA anymore but he's also too "keepin it real" off the court it seems. But I also think Dre plays a little soft at times because he's scared - Boogie Cousins wanted nothing to do with Zach during a recent game between their respective teams.

Can't imagine Stan would want anything to so with Z-Bo unfortunately.

Leuer and Ellenson for Zach Randolph works. Henry makes up for them taking on Leuer's second year.

Randolph could play the five here right?

Jackson|Smith
Bradley|Galloway|Kennard
Johnson|(Harris)
Harris|Randolph|Tolliver
Drummond|Randolph|Marjanovic

I was just thinking with George Hill being unhappy and the "leadership" roles not exactly working for the Kings, if there would be something that would be interesting with us.

George Hill / Randolph
for
Ish / Boban / Leuer / Galloway

It's a cap neutral deal, Hill gives us a 3rd guard who can shoot, he's massively overpaid for a 3rd guard, but basically we'd swap Leuer/Galloway's deals for him and he's an upgrade over those guys. Moving Galloway clears some PT for Kennard as well. I'm not sure if the salaries are high enough that we could take back Vince too, but he could also add some depth and a shooter at the 3. Kings get a little bit younger vets and clear out whatever is going on with Hill.

menten · Post #1117 » by **menten** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:18 pm

Kilo wrote:Man, am I crazy for wanting Zach Randolph here? He's one of the last true hardmen in the NBA anymore but he's also too "keepin it real" off the court it seems. But I also think Dre plays a little soft at times because he's scared - Boogie Cousins wanted nothing to do with Zach during a recent game between their respective teams.

Can't imagine Stan would want anything to so with Z-Bo unfortunately.

Leuer and Ellenson for Zach Randolph works. Henry makes up for them taking on Leuer's second year.

Randolph could play the five here right?

Jackson|Smith
Bradley|Galloway|Kennard
Johnson|(Harris)
Harris|Randolph|Tolliver
Drummond|Randolph|Marjanovic

this would be so awesome, randolph is my favourite player in the league :nod:

unfortunately SVG only wants jumpshooters and soft white guys

Richard Miller · Post #1118 » by **Richard Miller** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:20 pm

GreekAlex wrote:Need input on a trade idea:

Det out: SJ, Boban, Leuer
Det in: Wilson Chandler, Tyson Chandler

Den out: Wilson Chandler, Emanuel Mudiay
Den in: SJ & Boban

PHX out: Tyson Chandler
PHX in: Emanuel Mudiay & Jon Leuer

Denver wouldn't think for a second I'd say, they have no use for Boban whatsoever even if they could get him for free, so Chandler and Mudiay for SJ... just no way.

skywalker33 · Post #1119 » by **skywalker33** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:24 am

Kilo wrote:
GreekAlex wrote:Need input on a trade idea:

Det out: SJ, Boban, Leuer
Det in: Wilson Chandler, Tyson Chandler

Den out: Wilson Chandler, Emanuel Mudiay
Den in: SJ & Boban

PHX out: Tyson Chandler
PHX in: Emanuel Mudiay & Jon Leuer

Denver's getting wrecked. We'd need to include a first rounder going to them at least.

After watching tonights game, maybe 2 firsts...... :wink:

Pandev · Post #1120 » by **Pandev** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:49 am

Time to blow this team up and fire SVG. He can't win with the roster he himself constructed after 4 years. :crazy:

That is all.