RealGM Pistons 2017 NBA Draft Big Board

[ComboGuardCity]

Alright Folks...your final Big Boards! Post them here

Format:

Top 15:
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12.


Dream Scenario:

Guys You Love:

Guys You Don't Love:

1. Jonathan Issac - More Athletic Rashard Lewis/Poor Man's KD
2. Markelle Fultz - James Harden w/ less vision
3. Lonzo Ball - Pre-Injury Shaun Livingston w/ a jumpshot
4. Dennis Smith - Eric Bledsoe
5. Josh Jackson - Andre Iguodala w/ less vision
6. Jayson Tatum - Rudy Gay
7. Harry Giles - Amare w/ injury risk of never being anything
8. Daaron Fox - Dennis Shroeder
9. Malik Monk - Lou Williams
10. Frank Ntilikina - Dante Exum
11. Donnovan Mitchell - Avery Bradley
12. Justin Patton - Less Athletic Miles Turner

Dream Scenario: Move up and nab Issac

Guys You Love:
1. Issac and the rest of the Top 7

Guys You Don't Love:
1. Zach Collins - a question mark with small sample size. Not sold on his defense.
2. Lauri Markkanen - Anthony Tolliver.
3. Luke Kennard - Wes Matthews..but with no defense which is not a lottery player.
4. Jarret Allen - He's living off Myle's Turner comps because he's got weird hair and played at Texas, but hes not nearly as athletic or gifted on both ends of the floor.

Fultz
Jackson
Ball
Tatum
Fox
Isaac
DSJ
Markanen
Collins
Monk
Ntilikina
Mitchell
Kennard

In the 12 range/potentially 12 range...

Nkilitina
Markannen
Mitchell

In that order.

1. Markelle Fultz
2. Lonzo Ball
3. Jayson Tatum
4. De'Aaron Fox
5. Jonathan Isaac
6. Josh Jackson
7. Dennis Smith Jr.
8. Malik Monk
9. Lauri Markkanen
10. Frank Ntilikina
11. Zach Collins
12. Donovan Mitchell

Dream Scenario: Tempered with a slight bit of reality, but would be Dennis Smith Jr. falling to the 12th pick.

Guys You Love: Love might be a strong word, but those I like the best regardless of ranking are Lonzo Ball and Lauri Markkanen.

Guys You Don't Love: Relative to where they're going to be drafted? Josh Jackson, John Collins, OG Anunoby, Jarrett Allen, Justin Patton, Terrence Ferguson, and Harry Giles.

1.Fultz
2.Jackson
3.Ball
4.Fox
5.Tatum
6.Isaac
7.Smith
8.Markkanen
9.Collins
10.Ntilikina
11.Monk
12.Mitchell

Dream scenario: Smith
I love Markkanen and Jackson
I don't love Monk

[ComboGuardCity]

1. Jonathan Issac - More Athletic Rashard Lewis/Poor Man's KD
2. Markelle Fultz - James Harden w/ less vision
3. Lonzo Ball - Pre-Injury Shaun Livingston w/ a jumpshot
4. Dennis Smith - Eric Bledsoe
5. Josh Jackson - Andre Iguodala w/ less vision
6. Jayson Tatum - Rudy Gay
7. Harry Giles - Amare w/ injury risk of never being anything
8. Daaron Fox - Dennis Shroeder
9. Malik Monk - Lou Williams
10. Frank Ntilikina - Dante Exum
11. Donnovan Mitchell - Avery Bradley
12. Justin Patton - Less Athletic Miles Turner

Dream Scenario: Move up and nab Issac

Guys You Love:
1. Issac and the rest of the Top 7

Guys You Don't Love:
1. Zach Collins - a question mark with small sample size. Not sold on his defense.
2. Lauri Markkanen - Anthony Tolliver.
3. Luke Kennard - Wes Matthews..but with no defense which is not a lottery player.
4. Jarret Allen - He's living off Myle's Turner comps because he's got weird hair and played at Texas, but hes not nearly as athletic or gifted on both ends of the floor.

[MotownMadness]

Fultz
Jackson
Ball
Tatum
Fox
Isaac
DSJ
Markanen
Collins
Monk
Ntilikina
Mitchell
Kennard

[Kilo]

CCG is LaVar Ball - Don't like the white players.

[Bakuto]

In the 12 range/potentially 12 range...

Nkilitina
Markannen
Mitchell

In that order.

[coordinator0]

1. Markelle Fultz
2. Lonzo Ball
3. Jayson Tatum
4. De'Aaron Fox
5. Jonathan Isaac
6. Josh Jackson
7. Dennis Smith Jr.
8. Malik Monk
9. Lauri Markkanen
10. Frank Ntilikina
11. Zach Collins
12. Donovan Mitchell

Dream Scenario: Tempered with a slight bit of reality, but would be Dennis Smith Jr. falling to the 12th pick.

Guys You Love: Love might be a strong word, but those I like the best regardless of ranking are Lonzo Ball and Lauri Markkanen.

Guys You Don't Love: Relative to where they're going to be drafted? Josh Jackson, John Collins, OG Anunoby, Jarrett Allen, Justin Patton, Terrence Ferguson, and Harry Giles.

[El Chivo]

1.Fultz
2.Jackson
3.Ball
4.Fox
5.Tatum
6.Isaac
7.Smith
8.Markkanen
9.Collins
10.Ntilikina
11.Monk
12.Mitchell

Dream scenario: Smith
I love Markkanen and Jackson
I don't love Monk

[ComboGuardCity]

CCG is LaVar Ball - Don't like the white players.

Lonzo and Tatum are half white!

[JohnReese]

Top 15:
1.Fultz
2.Ball
3.Ntilikina
4.Smith Jr
5.Tatum
6.Jackson
7.Isaac
8.Collins
9.F.Jackson
10.Markannen
11.Mitchell
12.Kennard


Dream Scenario: Ntilikina

Guys You Love: Ntilikina, F.Jackson and Smith Jr

Guys You Don't Love: Fox, Monk and especially Adebayo

[joseph mamah]

1. Fultz
2. Jackson
3. Fox
4. Ball
5. Monk
6. Isaac
7. Zachislav Collinovic
8. Ntilikina
9. Tatum
10. Allen
11. Patton
12. Mitchell

[jakebernat]

7. Zachislav Collinovic

I loled

[Finn McCool]

Top 15
1. Fultz
2. Monk
3. Isaac
4. Jackson (Josh)
5. Fox
6. Smith
7. Markkanen
8. Tatum
9. Kennard
10. Leaf
11. Ojeleye
12. Collins (John)
13. Allen
14. Jackson (Justin)
15. Patton

Dream Scenario: Trading Reggie Jackson to the Lakers for the 2nd overall pick. You did type 'dream scenario.'

Guys You Love: Monk, Isaac, Ojeleye, Leaf

Guys You Don't Love: Giles, Ball, Ntilikina, Ferguson

[B Scott]

1. Fultz
2. Ball
3. Isaac
4. Josh Jackson
5. Tatum
6. DSJ
7. Monk
8. Fox
9. Ntilinka
10. Markannen
11. Zach Collins
12. Ferguson


Dream Scenario: Either start gutting the roster and get a pick in the top 8 or trade the 12 pick plus Stanley and Morris for Kevin Love in a 3 team trade

Guys You Love: Anyone in the top 8

Guys You Don't Love: I'm sure guys like Luke Kennard and TJ Leaf will make good role players, but frankly we're not a role player away from being a good team

[ElectricMayhem]

Dream Scenario: Trading Reggie Jackson to the Lakers for the 2nd overall pick. You did type 'dream scenario.'

Ok, I'll bite...

Why was the 2nd overall pick your dream scenario over the 1st?

[Finn McCool]

Dream Scenario: Trading Reggie Jackson to the Lakers for the 2nd overall pick. You did type 'dream scenario.'

Ok, I'll bite...

Why was the 2nd overall pick your dream scenario over the 1st?

I don't like the Lakers, so dumping Reggie on them sounded like a good idea. Also, the 76ers just moved up to 1, and I doubt they'd want to give it up rather hastily. Anyway, it was just whimsical rhetoric.

[ComboGuardCity]

Apologies is this isn’t allowed…but was taking a stroll down memory lane and thinking it would be fun to do this again!

[bstein14]

Lots of people would have LOVED to have been able to get Josh Jackson and Dennis Smith Jr 4 years ago on draft night... Now we've got them and most people here don't really seem to want them.

[Snakebites]

Looking back it's really interesting to see how strong a consensus Fultz was.

People talk about it now as though they knew it was a WTF pick at the time.

Also interesting the total lack of attention to Adebayo- very interesting in hindsight. These pre-draft threads that are years old are always interesting time capsules of what the groupthink was at the time- not faulting anyone mind you- my track record is rough. I remember when we picked Rodney Stuckey I was upset (which was fair). Less impressive is that I wanted us to take Javaris Crittenton or Nick Young at the time.

[buzzkilloton]

Looking back it's really interesting to see how strong a consensus Fultz was.

People talk about it now as though they knew it was a WTF pick at the time.

One thing in this thread is seems nobody was high on Kennard. Fkn SVG.

Yeah of course same with Wiggins. Obv Ainge didnt like Fultz much. Its like in hindsight everyone knew.

Another guy who I notice every acts the same with was Bagley. I remember Bagley having tons of hype for being a freak athlete, and big time production, and lots of the internet sites ranked him very highly. Of course some people did have Luka 1 but it wasnt like Ayton and Bagley werent considered damn good prospects coming out.

I wasnt around for this but I liked Fultz to. Remember though Fultz problems were the "yips" and injuries. Hard to project injuries and weird mental problems.

I think looking back the two biggest indicators of Fultz being a bust were:

1. Free throw %-For a guy who had a good 3pt shot and was expected to be a knock down shooter 65% is really bad.

2. How bad his college team. They were 11th of 12th in the Pac 12 that season. 9-22 thats really really bad. You would expect the best player in the draft to have a better record then that regardless of whos around him.