No Backup plan if KCP gets MAX offer from Brooklyn and we don't match???

[bstein14]

It appears as if there is no backup plan if KCP gets a MAX offer we don't want to use.

We've already used the non-taxpayers MLE up mostly and we won't have any significant cap space to spend on anyone else.

It looks like we'd possibly fill out the roster with another minimum or near minimum salary and that is all we can do unless trades occur.

[The Penguin]

Pretty sure our backup plan is Galloway / Kennard / Stanley, whoever takes the job. Maybe Stan will channel his inner Dre-Moose-Smith and start Mook or Tobias at the 2.

But yes, the Galloway deal put a cap on our ability to match KCP and we have no good alternatives for a backup plan.

[theBigLip]

I just can't imagine that SVG doesn't have a plan. I'm not trying to be a super homer but I'm willing to bet that SVG/Bowers have this figured out better than we have. They've always said signing KCP was a priority and I'm sure we will match any other offer. If Galloway prevents this (which I am not 100% convinced of), then I'm sure they already have a plan in place to get the necessary cap room to do it.

What I'm surprised at right now is that no one is talking about KCP. No visits, no rumors, nada.


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[Neptune]

Nobody's offering KCP the max

[Billl]

I still think We would match, but of course we have a backup plan. We've got 5 other rotation quality guards under contract.

[ByeByeDre]

They're matching any offer. Back to the hot dog eating contest....

[The Penguin]

Nobody's offering KCP the max

Brooklyn is the only possibility IMO. Seems like the other teams with space are happy to sit on it, or add short term contracts.


I think Rich Paul is the bigger challenge than a team giving an offer sheet we can't match.

[Pharaoh]

Don't need a plan B cause it detracts from plan A

Seriously though Kennard is Plan B - possibly Plan A!

Everything put out into the media can be viewed as a smokescreen IMO.

These NBA executives aren't here for **** & giggles - they run multi-million dollar businesses and there's a lot of "Art of War" **** going on.

For all we know VanBower planned to let KCP walk all along but SJ just didn't come correct enough so we drafted Kennard & signed Galloway.

Wasn't there a report somewhere about how we wanted SJ to take KCPs place?

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[pistontr]

kennard's ceiling is higher than him and he is overrated defender. move on.

[coordinator0]

Yeah, the backup plan has already been enacted with signing Galloway. Either he or Kennard starts with the other coming off the bench. And to be honest I'm fine with that. The other options on the market were not what I would have wanted the Pistons to target. Redick? Too old, wasn't getting him with that offer from Philly anyways. Waiters? No. Move along.

And then it's the other RFAs in Snell, Simmons, and Hardaway Jr. They are all interesting, but the RFA game is such a gamble and I doubt any of those teams wouldn't (or won't) match a reasonable offer. Galloway was part of that next group and one of the best defenders of the whole bunch, which pairs well with Kennard. Both guys can handle the ball as potential secondary facilitators too.

I'm sure the "but what about trades!" idea will come up but that's not a good route either. Good shooting guards don't get traded. Simple as that. There aren't enough of them to go around, and I think that's part of the reason we're starting to see more lineups with two point guards. There are plenty of those in good quality and the smart coaches are figuring out how to attack defenses with that approach.

[Neptune]

Nobody's offering KCP the max

Brooklyn is the only possibility IMO. Seems like the other teams with space are happy to sit on it, or add short term contracts.


I think Rich Paul is the bigger challenge than a team giving an offer sheet we can't match.

If Rich Paul was smart he would take a long term deal so KCP can have room to sell himself to the league. It doesn't matter if it's max money, right now, I think other teams see KCP as a 6th-man and an average defender.

[The Penguin]

Nobody's offering KCP the max

Brooklyn is the only possibility IMO. Seems like the other teams with space are happy to sit on it, or add short term contracts.


I think Rich Paul is the bigger challenge than a team giving an offer sheet we can't match.

If Rich Paul was smart he would take a long term deal so KCP can have room to sell himself to the league. Right now, I think other teams see KCP as a 6th-man and an average defender.

If Rich Paul were smart he'd take the best 3 year offer sheet available from another team, let the Pistons match, then take KCP out into a market that's expected to be very hot when all the bad money 4 year deals from last summer (and all the big 3 year deals from this summer) expire.

[jakebernat]

If KCP gets offered Otto porter money, then forget about it. I firmly believe that there is a maximum on what VanBower will spend on KCP.

Losing him would be a definitely be a blow to our team, but SJ is already probably more versatile of a defender, and Galloway/kennard are both better shooters. I really don't believe that we'd miss him all that much, though I would rather we didn't lose him for nothing.

[Neptune]

Brooklyn is the only possibility IMO. Seems like the other teams with space are happy to sit on it, or add short term contracts.


I think Rich Paul is the bigger challenge than a team giving an offer sheet we can't match.

If Rich Paul was smart he would take a long term deal so KCP can have room to sell himself to the league. Right now, I think other teams see KCP as a 6th-man and an average defender.

If Rich Paul were smart he'd take the best 3 year offer sheet available from another team, let the Pistons match, then take KCP out into a market that's expected to be very hot when all the bad money 4 year deals from last summer (and all the big 3 year deals from this summer) expire.

Yeah, a 3yr deal could work too. He would have to really show the league he's a consistent player on the offensive end and his PPG would have to jump to the 17-20 range.

Either way I want to keep KCP or we need to have a backup plan to trade for a starting caliber 2-guard. I don't believe Luke or Galloway are our answers.

[Kilo]

You can make up less money by offering a PO in the last year. This is insurance for the player in a way as if they're hurt or suck they get that last year, but if their healthy and playing well they opt out for the more lucrative long term deal.

We're probably offering 16M per and four years($64M total) right now would be my guess.

Probably end up at $18M per season over four years with PO fourth.

[DETermination]

I have no idea what Stan's plan is right now I just have to hope that he knows what hes doing.

[theBigLip]

They're matching any offer.

100% Agree.

Back to the hot dog eating contest....

Is there anything grosser than this? Seriously, we are awarding people for stuffing their face? Only in Merica!

[flow]

I'm more concerned with what the plan is if we DO match. Too many guys for the worst roster-manager in the league to juggle. And you know Kennard and Ellenson will get the short end of the stick. Which is maddening to me. They should each get no fewer than 15 minutes every game from the jump until/unless they play themselves out of the rotation. The team is going nowhere this season regardless. You have to develop/see what you have in your top prospects on rookie contracts.

[ComboGuardCity]

Why the hell would we not match KCP? Regardless if he's on the roster or not, we are capped out. Renounce the end of the bench guys to get under the tax and call it a day. Not matching would be plain stupid.

[Canadafan]

Ya we'll match. Question is, who gets dealt if Brooklyn or somebody else offers more than we can offer cause of hard cap? Gotta be Leuer Boban or Morris