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List your best Reggie/Drummond trades, not many teams could use these guys so the list should be small

What about a 3 team deal:

To Nets: Reggie Jackson, Boban

To Dallas: Drummond, Galloway

To Pistons: Lin, Wes Matthews, Noel, Mozgov

Lin / Ish
Bradley / Wes Matthews
Tobias / Stanley
Leuer / Tolliver
Noel / Mozgov

Why start a new thread over it and why even think of trade ideas that none of us have control over? Pointless

I don't even want to think about a Drummond or Reggie trade until we are halfway through the season

Realistically their values are so low you're better off holding them and hoping they can regain value before the deadline.

As for the OP: Noel is on his QO so we wouldn't get his Bird Rights in the deal and then couldn't retain him

DETermination wrote:I don't even want to think about a Drummond or Reggie trade until we are halfway through the season

This, give them one last chance.
Drummond has been talking a lot this off-season, so let's see if he can live up to his words.

sfballa13 wrote:What about a 3 team deal:

To Nets: Reggie Jackson, Boban

To Dallas: Drummond, Galloway

To Pistons: Lin, Wes Matthews, Noel, Mozgov

Looks pretty dire

Pharaoh wrote:Realistically their values are so low you're better off holding them and hoping they can regain value before the deadline.

As for the OP: Noel is on his QO so we wouldn't get his Bird Rights in the deal and then couldn't retain him

This. No sense selling low. They're pretty close to untradable ATM unless you want to swap them for other awful contracts. I'm pessimistic that they'll play better but we really don't have a better option right now.

And the second part of your post brings back memories of when we had Monroe on the QO, and the posters of this forum, refusing to understand this dynamic, posted trade after trade after trade after trade after trade after trade after trade...

My sanity still hasn't fully recovered.

Nowhere.

If they play well, we keep them. And if they play like cah-cah, we're stuck with them.

Kilo wrote:Nowhere.

If they play well, we keep them. And if they play like cah-cah, we're stuck with them.

If they play well I'd definitely be open to trading them to kick start a rebuild, honestly.

Snakebites wrote:

Kilo wrote:Nowhere.

If they play well, we keep them. And if they play like cah-cah, we're stuck with them.

If they play well I'd definitely be open to trading them to kick start a rebuild, honestly.

I would be as well - especially Reggie. But Stan isn't going to sell for a rebuild. Neither is Gores. If both play well we're a play-off team in the East, and that means playoff gate money.


If they're playing well we probably "buy" at the deadline, trading our 2018 first, potentially Ellenson and disposable contracts for a PF.

God. I can't even read these topics anymore.

Kilo wrote:

Snakebites wrote:

Kilo wrote:Nowhere.

If they play well, we keep them. And if they play like cah-cah, we're stuck with them.

If they play well I'd definitely be open to trading them to kick start a rebuild, honestly.

I would be as well - especially Reggie. But Stan isn't going to sell for a rebuild. Neither is Gores. If both play well we're a play-off team in the East, and that means playoff gate money.


If they're playing well we probably "buy" at the deadline, trading our 2018 first, potentially Ellenson and disposable contracts for a PF.

You'd think they'd get the god damned hint after nearly a decade of suck.

But yeah, seems like they won't. My goodness rooting for this team has been a nightmare for the last 9 years.

Snakebites wrote:

Kilo wrote:

Snakebites wrote:
If they play well I'd definitely be open to trading them to kick start a rebuild, honestly.

I would be as well - especially Reggie. But Stan isn't going to sell for a rebuild. Neither is Gores. If both play well we're a play-off team in the East, and that means playoff gate money.


If they're playing well we probably "buy" at the deadline, trading our 2018 first, potentially Ellenson and disposable contracts for a PF.

You'd think they'd get the god damned hint after nearly a decade of suck.

But yeah, seems like they won't. My goodness rooting for this team has been a nightmare for the last 9 years.

Agreed but I too believe that if things are going reasonably we'll be buyers at the deadline.

We've got a lot of smaller team friendly deals (Ish, Bobo, Galloway), a large reasonable deal (Jon) & a couple of picks (Henry & 2018) to offer.

That's approx $20 mil of salary going out if it's Jon + Ish + Henry (+ Pick) and leaves us with:

Dre - Bobo - Moreland
Harris - Tolliver
SJ - Bullock
AB - Kennard
RJ - Galloway

Obvious target for that package is a forward

Pharaoh wrote:

Snakebites wrote:

Kilo wrote:
I would be as well - especially Reggie. But Stan isn't going to sell for a rebuild. Neither is Gores. If both play well we're a play-off team in the East, and that means playoff gate money.


If they're playing well we probably "buy" at the deadline, trading our 2018 first, potentially Ellenson and disposable contracts for a PF.

You'd think they'd get the god damned hint after nearly a decade of suck.

But yeah, seems like they won't. My goodness rooting for this team has been a nightmare for the last 9 years.

Agreed but I too believe that if things are going reasonably we'll be buyers at the deadline.

We've got a lot of smaller team friendly deals (Ish, Bobo, Galloway), a large reasonable deal (Jon) & a couple of picks (Henry & 2018) to offer.

That's approx $20 mil of salary going out if it's Jon + Ish + Henry (+ Pick) and leaves us with:

Dre - Bobo - Moreland
Harris - Tolliver
SJ - Bullock
AB - Kennard
RJ - Galloway

Obvious target for that package is a forward

I'd rather ship out Marjanovic than Leuer in your package, assuming they're providing salary more than on-court value to acquiring team - it's only 3M in difference so $17M vs $20M, and with 125% value allowed to come back we're not going to be limited by salary. I think Leuer is going to be Dre's primary back-up this season, I don't think Boban can play in the new NBA. Trade that package for a starting four/five and we're a better team for the now.

If things don’t go to plan for Van Gundy again to begin the season, he may decide the lure of a pick still sitting in the Top Three by Christmas is enough to consider blowing it up. A package of Andre Drummond, Avery Bradley and Stanley Johnson while offloading the likes of Iman Shumpert and Channing Frye, has a little bit of everything for the Cavs. They may need to include a player like Tristan Thompson but it would be a worthy deal to compete next season and beyond – giving the Cavs three fifth’s of last seasons Celtics starting lineup, plus a dominant big and an intriguing young(ish) piece in Bradley.

Canadafan wrote:If things don’t go to plan for Van Gundy again to begin the season, he may decide the lure of a pick still sitting in the Top Three by Christmas is enough to consider blowing it up. A package of Andre Drummond, Avery Bradley and Stanley Johnson while offloading the likes of Iman Shumpert and Channing Frye, has a little bit of everything for the Cavs. They may need to include a player like Tristan Thompson but it would be a worthy deal to compete next season and beyond – giving the Cavs three fifth’s of last seasons Celtics starting lineup, plus a dominant big and an intriguing young(ish) piece in Bradley.

I assume we get the Brooklyn pick in that deal?

As much as some of us might like the idea of 2 top 5 picks arriving via the 2018 Draft I can't see SVG or Gores signing off on it.

They want to compete and make the playoffs now.

Any deal that gets us closer to that while maintaining some kind of financial flexibility going forward is far more likely than a tanking season

I think SVG is out if this season starts badly.

Kilo pretty much summed up all my thoughts on this topic.

A ball dominant PG with a bum knee that's owed roughly $48 million over the next 3 years, and a guy with 4 years left on a max contract that is literally the worst free throw shooter in the history of the NBA, no offense outside of put-backs and being spoon fed easy buckets, and gave up on defending because that's not what all-stars do.

I guess there's the Kings.