If Bledsoe is available
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:53 am
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Trade RJ or you think ISH+1st for Bledsoe?
Trade RJ or you think ISH+1st for Bledsoe?
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This is a tough one. Its got to be a package that won't be outrageous for Detroit as its PHX who's under stress here.Blkbrd671 wrote:...............................
Trade RJ or you think ISH+1st for Bledsoe?
That's the one right there.DET_Athletics wrote:how does an ish+leuer+Boban+1st rounder for bledsoe+chandler+2nd deal sound?
Two things;DetroitPistons wrote:I could definitely see SVG trading RJ the second he proves he is healthy, which he is doing right now. I like RJ (when healthy of course) but I would have to pull the trigger on an RJ/Ellenson/1st rounder for bledsoe trade. I know everyone will blow their lid with that offer but it's only because of the Pistons glasses. Bledsoe is a 20+ ppg scorer with excellent defense. Imagine a Bledsoe/Bradley/Johnson perimeter defense![]()
Bledsoe/Smith
Bradley/Kennard
Johnson/Harris
Harris/Tolliver
Drummond/Leuer/Marjanovic/Moreland
We would basically be one trade away (for an allstar PF) from being a top 3 team in the East after that.
zeebneeb wrote:Two things;DetroitPistons wrote:I could definitely see SVG trading RJ the second he proves he is healthy, which he is doing right now. I like RJ (when healthy of course) but I would have to pull the trigger on an RJ/Ellenson/1st rounder for bledsoe trade. I know everyone will blow their lid with that offer but it's only because of the Pistons glasses. Bledsoe is a 20+ ppg scorer with excellent defense. Imagine a Bledsoe/Bradley/Johnson perimeter defense![]()
Bledsoe/Smith
Bradley/Kennard
Johnson/Harris
Harris/Tolliver
Drummond/Leuer/Marjanovic/Moreland
We would basically be one trade away (for an allstar PF) from being a top 3 team in the East after that.
Your going to trade RJ, ellenson, AND a pick for a player openly asking for a trade on Twitter when the team has zero power and has massive health issues?
Trade for an all star PF with the way Harris is balling?
I'm not being jerky, I'm just confused by "Pistons glasses" comment when its established that in these situations the team on bledoes end of the stick has,lost all their power.
No need to trade Reggie, and throwing in Henry, AND a pick? Don't understand.
Im all for making the team better but what worries me is trading one injury prone player for another.DetroitPistons wrote:zeebneeb wrote:Two things;DetroitPistons wrote:I could definitely see SVG trading RJ the second he proves he is healthy, which he is doing right now. I like RJ (when healthy of course) but I would have to pull the trigger on an RJ/Ellenson/1st rounder for bledsoe trade. I know everyone will blow their lid with that offer but it's only because of the Pistons glasses. Bledsoe is a 20+ ppg scorer with excellent defense. Imagine a Bledsoe/Bradley/Johnson perimeter defense![]()
Bledsoe/Smith
Bradley/Kennard
Johnson/Harris
Harris/Tolliver
Drummond/Leuer/Marjanovic/Moreland
We would basically be one trade away (for an allstar PF) from being a top 3 team in the East after that.
Your going to trade RJ, ellenson, AND a pick for a player openly asking for a trade on Twitter when the team has zero power and has massive health issues?
Trade for an all star PF with the way Harris is balling?
I'm not being jerky, I'm just confused by "Pistons glasses" comment when its established that in these situations the team on bledoes end of the stick has,lost all their power.
No need to trade Reggie, and throwing in Henry, AND a pick? Don't understand.
RJ was much more of a malcontent than when he was demanding a trade. He also has an injury history too. Bledsoe has been quiet for a long time while he has been in trade rumors for over a year now so he finally got fed up with it and is trying to force the process. Marcus Morris was a malcontent too apparently and was model citizen here so I'm not very deterred by his twitter comment. The injury thing is more relevant but it's not like he is Derrick Rose or something. I think it would be a smart gamble to take us up a notch.
The Pistons glasses comment was referring to Ellenson. I just feel like a ton of people around here are overly attached to him so I assumed they would scoff at trading him in a package for Bledsoe.
Harris would obviously slide to SF if we acquired a PF. Also, lets not pretend Harris is going to average 30 ppg for the season. He will cool down a bit probably. I would probably offer something involving Johnson if the right PF came along.
zeebneeb wrote:Im all for making the team better but what worries me is trading one injury prone player for another.DetroitPistons wrote:zeebneeb wrote:Two things;
Your going to trade RJ, ellenson, AND a pick for a player openly asking for a trade on Twitter when the team has zero power and has massive health issues?
Trade for an all star PF with the way Harris is balling?
I'm not being jerky, I'm just confused by "Pistons glasses" comment when its established that in these situations the team on bledoes end of the stick has,lost all their power.
No need to trade Reggie, and throwing in Henry, AND a pick? Don't understand.
RJ was much more of a malcontent than when he was demanding a trade. He also has an injury history too. Bledsoe has been quiet for a long time while he has been in trade rumors for over a year now so he finally got fed up with it and is trying to force the process. Marcus Morris was a malcontent too apparently and was model citizen here so I'm not very deterred by his twitter comment. The injury thing is more relevant but it's not like he is Derrick Rose or something. I think it would be a smart gamble to take us up a notch.
The Pistons glasses comment was referring to Ellenson. I just feel like a ton of people around here are overly attached to him so I assumed they would scoff at trading him in a package for Bledsoe.
Harris would obviously slide to SF if we acquired a PF. Also, lets not pretend Harris is going to average 30 ppg for the season. He will cool down a bit probably. I would probably offer something involving Johnson if the right PF came along.
Besides that, I HATE Harris at SF. He is a wierd player and while I would KILL to have a KP, or AD type of player next to Andre, its just not realistic. Harris fits at power and if the team did somehow trade for a killer PF, I would rather Harris came off the bench.
Bledsoe Bradley and Johnson defensively does make me salivate though, no lies in that.
DetroitPistons wrote:I'm in the camp that Harris is just as good at SF than he is at PF. The Knicks game was an example of that where they had Tolliver at PF and Harris at SF for a decent amount of the second half. He played great at SF. Like Jackson said
"If you're a PF, how do you want it?'
"If you're a SF, how do you want it?"
lol
DET_Athletics wrote:DetroitPistons wrote:I'm in the camp that Harris is just as good at SF than he is at PF. The Knicks game was an example of that where they had Tolliver at PF and Harris at SF for a decent amount of the second half. He played great at SF. Like Jackson said
"If you're a PF, how do you want it?'
"If you're a SF, how do you want it?"
lol
Tobias is good on offense at either spot, but he gets exposed more on the wing than he does playing Pf, plain and simple. The man refuses to bend his knees and get into anything that resembles a defensive position.
zeebneeb wrote:That's the one right there.DET_Athletics wrote:how does an ish+leuer+Boban+1st rounder for bledsoe+chandler+2nd deal sound?
That trade puts Detroit in an insane position. INSANE.
There is absolutely no way we trade Reggie though. None. Reggie has his health issues but Bledsoe is on a whole different level.
zeebneeb wrote:Man I'm torn on this. I feel this current team is on the cusp of something really damn good and I want to give them a chance as it could pan out organically, but you never turn down a talent upgrade if it FITS, and makes the team better.
I'm just not sure bledoes the better player(defensively its a no contest)and in the crunch Jackson's amongst the best in the league hands down.
I would rather move ish Henry picks for Bledsoe Chandler. That's the best move as it upgraded across the board.
vege wrote:zeebneeb wrote:That's the one right there.DET_Athletics wrote:how does an ish+leuer+Boban+1st rounder for bledsoe+chandler+2nd deal sound?
That trade puts Detroit in an insane position. INSANE.
There is absolutely no way we trade Reggie though. None. Reggie has his health issues but Bledsoe is on a whole different level.
We would need to send Moreland out at the deadline to drop out of the LT.
zeebneeb wrote:Man I'm torn on this. I feel this current team is on the cusp of something really damn good and I want to give them a chance as it could pan out organically, but you never turn down a talent upgrade if it FITS, and makes the team better.
I'm just not sure bledoes the better player(defensively its a no contest)and in the crunch Jackson's amongst the best in the league hands down.
I would rather move ish Henry picks for Bledsoe Chandler. That's the best move as it upgraded across the board.