Scouting for the 2018 Off Season

Global Game · Post #1 » by **Global Game** » Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:53 am

I noticed Mario Hezonja's agent is Michael Tellem, son of Arn Tellem.

Global Game · Post #2 » by **Global Game** » Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:58 am

ImHeisenberg · Post #3 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:40 pm

All we will have is the MLE, which Tolliver will eat into if we want to keep him.

If we spend all of our MLE, we'll be into the luxury tax on a lottery team. Not sure what Gores plans to allow this summer.

Kilo · Post #4 » by **Kilo** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:28 pm

Tolly won't come back if SVG is fired. That could be a double bonus. I like Tolly, but I'm not spending limited tax space on "veteran leadership". Get a better coach in and that isn't an issue.

ImHeisenberg · Post #5 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:30 pm

Kilo wrote:Tolly won't come back if SVG is fired. That could be a double bonus. I like Tolly, but I'm not spending limited tax space on "veteran leadership". Get a better coach in and that isn't an issue.

Tolliver isn't so in demand that he gets to pick whatever team he wants.

Kilo · Post #6 » by **Kilo** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:05 pm

ImHeisenberg wrote:
Kilo wrote:Tolly won't come back if SVG is fired. That could be a double bonus. I like Tolly, but I'm not spending limited tax space on "veteran leadership". Get a better coach in and that isn't an issue.

Tolliver isn't so in demand that he gets to pick whatever team he wants.

I meant it as Stan would be the one bringing Tolly back and with Stan gone Tolly will not be back NOT that Tolly would only grace us with his continued presence if we brought Stan back.

King Bugs · Post #7 » by **King Bugs** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:33 pm

We might have to poke around the G-League for a gem or 2. Unless we're handing Drummond, Kennard and/or Stanley their walking papers to trade for some players and assets.

ImHeisenberg · Post #8 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:37 pm

King Bugs wrote:We might have to poke around the G-League for a gem or 2. Unless we're handing Drummond, Kennard and/or Stanley their walking papers to trade for some players and assets.

You know Gores won't allow a trade like that to happen. We'll effectively walk out the same bad team next year. Some will argue that they're better than their record, while everyone else just sits back and waits for it to end.

Barring the improbable top 3 pick, I can't think of a single thing to get excited about going into next season. A healthy Reggie Jackson for 20-30 games again? Wow, we get a league average PG. Super awesome stuff.

Manocad · Post #9 » by **Manocad** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:59 pm

IMO nothing should be done. Let the team suck for 2-3 years while bad contracts drop off. I'd even suggest trading away first round picks in the next couple of years for more picks in future years.

Global Game · Post #10 » by **Global Game** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:52 am

They'll need to shed Ish and Galloway's 13 million worth of salary.

Ish and Stanley's contracts most likely.

buzzkilloton · Post #11 » by **buzzkilloton** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:55 am

Manocad wrote:IMO nothing should be done. Let the team suck for 2-3 years while bad contracts drop off. I'd even suggest trading away first round picks in the next couple of years for more picks in future years.

I think we could get something for Blake. Like maybe another bad contract that expires sooner and a mid-late 1st. Drummond could fetch a smidgeon of value back. Then we could suck next season and get a good draft pick. I mean were pretty bad right now with Drummond/Blake if we move those two were going to be the worst team in the nba easily.

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Joe Berry · Post #19 » by **Joe Berry** » Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:54 am

I really like Heurtel's game. But the Pistons front office pretty much sucks when it comes to overseas scouting. Then again this offseason they can't just go out there and overpay a mediocre bench player like they have done every offseason. Look what the Celtics did with Daniel Theis. Minimum contract for 2 years and he's a great backup center for them outperforming his contract at the age 25. The Pistons will absolutley need someone like that if they want to make this mess work. Can't just give the next Galloway bum another 7 mil to sit on the bench.

vege · Post #20 » by **vege** » Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:22 pm

Joe Berry wrote:I really like Heurtel's game. But the Pistons front office pretty much sucks when it comes to overseas scouting. Then again this offseason they can't just go out there and overpay a mediocre bench player like they have done every offseason. Look what the Celtics did with Daniel Theis. Minimum contract for 2 years and he's a great backup center for them outperforming his contract at the age 25. The Pistons will absolutley need someone like that if they want to make this mess work. Can't just give the next Galloway bum another 7 mil to sit on the bench.

This has never being our problem. Overpaying for fringe NBA players yes, that's one of the main issues (Boban, Galloway, Leuer) and I add Galloway to the list because he was signed as Reggie's insurance, and he clearly can't play PG at all. Galloway is a decent defender and 3 point shooter, he should be in our rotation, but we vastly overpaid for him.

We've been doing fine finding cheap and productive players, we signed Reggie Bullock, who unlikely Theis is not a backup, he is a starter, and is doing amazing for his 2 years 5 million contract. Moreland is also productive and pretty cheap. Buycks is productive and being paid the minimum and Tolliver is one of our best players. So finding cheap and decent players has never being the issue. We don't need to find European players to fill that role.

I'm not saying we're perfect in that regard. Wingers are extremely valuable, SF are very rare in the league, and Utah signed 3 of them this offseason. Joe Ingles been great, he is not cheap, but he is well worth the money he got. Then they signed Thabo Sefolosha, who is old, yeah, but before his season ending injury, he was one of the most efficient SFs in the league, and he is well known for his great defense, and as if that's not enough, they found a gem in Royce O'Neal, who they signed for 3 years for the minimum and he would be starting for us and a few other teams easily, and he is a rookie.

Then they signed Jonas, to be what we expected Leuer to be, but he is being paid a fraction of what Leuer is being paid, and he is doing his job, unlike Leuer, who was pretty bad before his injury, one of our holes is backup C, and Utah signed one pretty cheap this offseason, Ekpe Udoh has crazy advanced stats and is exactly what we need from a backup C... Utah got all those guys right, that's why they'll likely be in the playoffs despite of losing their 2nd best player to Boston and their best player missing a big chunck of the season due to injuries. Well, that and Mitchell too :lol:

So while people praise Philly and the cancerous Process, I praise teams like Utah who made good decisions and are a **** good team and will give a lot more trouble to someone in the playoffs than Philly.