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I’m guessing if they’re packaging #4 for a trade, they are serious about going win now with Conley and Gasol. Something centered around Blake and Kennard for Parsons, #4, and Mclemore works. I’m not super down on Blake like most, but to be able to jump into the top 4 and snag Porter or Bagley would be amazing.
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ComboGuardCity wrote:I’m guessing if they’re packaging #4 for a trade, they are serious about going win now with Conley and Gasol. Something centered around Blake and Kennard for Parsons, #4, and Mclemore works. I’m not super down on Blake like most, but to be able to jump into the top 4 and snag Porter or Bagley would be amazing.
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i would do that but with johnson instead of Kennard
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stylesofpunk wrote:ComboGuardCity wrote:I’m guessing if they’re packaging #4 for a trade, they are serious about going win now with Conley and Gasol. Something centered around Blake and Kennard for Parsons, #4, and Mclemore works. I’m not super down on Blake like most, but to be able to jump into the top 4 and snag Porter or Bagley would be amazing.
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i would do that but with johnson instead of Kennard
This is the same Blake Griffin that nobody else wanted to give up a good first rounder for. Why would we be able to be choosey about who to package him with to get the fourth overall?
This is all fantasy land. I realize that’s all we’ve got but now we’re declining absurd fantasies in favor of better ones. That’s just nuts.
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Snakebites wrote:stylesofpunk wrote:ComboGuardCity wrote:I’m guessing if they’re packaging #4 for a trade, they are serious about going win now with Conley and Gasol. Something centered around Blake and Kennard for Parsons, #4, and Mclemore works. I’m not super down on Blake like most, but to be able to jump into the top 4 and snag Porter or Bagley would be amazing.
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i would do that but with johnson instead of Kennard
This is the same Blake Griffin that nobody else wanted to give up a good first rounder for. Why would we be able to be choosey about who to package him with to get the fourth overall?
This is all fantasy land. I realize that’s all we’ve got but now we’re declining absurd fantasies in favor of better ones. That’s just nuts.
The NBA is built on absurd fantasies. A year ago did you think Kawhi would demand a trade? If the rumor is true (big if) then my proposal is not an absurd fantasy.
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Snakebites wrote:stylesofpunk wrote:ComboGuardCity wrote:I’m guessing if they’re packaging #4 for a trade, they are serious about going win now with Conley and Gasol. Something centered around Blake and Kennard for Parsons, #4, and Mclemore works. I’m not super down on Blake like most, but to be able to jump into the top 4 and snag Porter or Bagley would be amazing.
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i would do that but with johnson instead of Kennard
This is the same Blake Griffin that nobody else wanted to give up a good first rounder for. Why would we be able to be choosey about who to package him with to get the fourth overall?
This is all fantasy land. I realize that’s all we’ve got but now we’re declining absurd fantasies in favor of better ones. That’s just nuts.
you've been a NBA fan long enough to o know most trades are usually lopsided or dint make sense for one team. it's never as even as we think it should be
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I dont think we would need to throw in Stanley or Kennard, honestly
Memphis wants to win and NOW, they want an all star to put butts in their seats
This would be THE perfect move for us, finally getting us a top 5 pick, maybe Doncic falls
Memphis wants to win and NOW, they want an all star to put butts in their seats
This would be THE perfect move for us, finally getting us a top 5 pick, maybe Doncic falls
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ComboGuardCity wrote:Snakebites wrote:stylesofpunk wrote:
i would do that but with johnson instead of Kennard
This is the same Blake Griffin that nobody else wanted to give up a good first rounder for. Why would we be able to be choosey about who to package him with to get the fourth overall?
This is all fantasy land. I realize that’s all we’ve got but now we’re declining absurd fantasies in favor of better ones. That’s just nuts.
The NBA is built on absurd fantasies. A year ago did you think Kawhi would demand a trade? If the rumor is true (big if) then my proposal is not an absurd fantasy.
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That’s a false equivalency. Kahwi demanding a trade is all about getting himself into a market where he can increase his brand value. It has nothing to do with the workings of the NBA itself.
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Manocad wrote:ComboGuardCity wrote:Snakebites wrote:This is the same Blake Griffin that nobody else wanted to give up a good first rounder for. Why would we be able to be choosey about who to package him with to get the fourth overall?
This is all fantasy land. I realize that’s all we’ve got but now we’re declining absurd fantasies in favor of better ones. That’s just nuts.
The NBA is built on absurd fantasies. A year ago did you think Kawhi would demand a trade? If the rumor is true (big if) then my proposal is not an absurd fantasy.
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That’s a false equivalency. Kahwi demanding a trade is all about getting himself into a market where he can increase his brand value. It has nothing to do with the workings of the NBA itself.
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It’s not a false equivalency. What my point was is nobody knows what’s going to happen until it does. Did anyone have an inkling what Blake’s value was and Detroit was a suited? Did the Reggie Jackson trade not pop up overnight and the asking price much lower than everyone thought? Nobody knows what GM’s are going to do and nobody really knows the true value of the players because they are all valued differently by 30 organizations.
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sfballa13 wrote:I dont think we would need to throw in Stanley or Kennard, honestly
Memphis wants to win and NOW, they want an all star to put butts in their seats
This would be THE perfect move for us, finally getting us a top 5 pick, maybe Doncic falls
It sounds like they'd probably be looking for win-now potential AND cap relief.
This is where it'd be nice to dangle an expiring Tobias Harris and our #12 pick to snag #4.
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ComboGuardCity wrote:Manocad wrote:ComboGuardCity wrote:The NBA is built on absurd fantasies. A year ago did you think Kawhi would demand a trade? If the rumor is true (big if) then my proposal is not an absurd fantasy.
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That’s a false equivalency. Kahwi demanding a trade is all about getting himself into a market where he can increase his brand value. It has nothing to do with the workings of the NBA itself.
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It’s not a false equivalency. What my point was is nobody knows what’s going to happen until it does. Did anyone have an inkling what Blake’s value was and Detroit was a suited? Did the Reggie Jackson trade not pop up overnight and the asking price much lower than everyone thought? Nobody knows what GM’s are going to do and nobody really knows the true value of the players because they are all valued differently by 30 organizations.
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Sorry, but it's still false equivalency. Saying, "Hey, you never know--maybe there's a GM out there who's stupid enough to make this absurdly lopsided and idiotic trade" does not equate to a player deciding he's a big enough star that he wants out of the small market and into the big market because they both fall under the "No one predicted that" category. Obviously no one can tell the future but there's still the factor of reasonable logic at play. While it might be true that no one expected Kawhi to want to leave SA, it's not an illogical move; it's nothing more than his personal preference. Completely lopsided and idiotic trades are illogical and they generally don't happen.
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Manocad wrote:ComboGuardCity wrote:Manocad wrote:That’s a false equivalency. Kahwi demanding a trade is all about getting himself into a market where he can increase his brand value. It has nothing to do with the workings of the NBA itself.
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It’s not a false equivalency. What my point was is nobody knows what’s going to happen until it does. Did anyone have an inkling what Blake’s value was and Detroit was a suited? Did the Reggie Jackson trade not pop up overnight and the asking price much lower than everyone thought? Nobody knows what GM’s are going to do and nobody really knows the true value of the players because they are all valued differently by 30 organizations.
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Sorry, but it's still false equivalency. Saying, "Hey, you never know--maybe there's a GM out there who's stupid enough to make this absurdly lopsided and idiotic trade" does not equate to a player deciding he's a big enough star that he wants out of the small market and into the big market because they both fall under the "No one predicted that" category. Obviously no one can tell the future but there's still the factor of reasonable logic at play. While it might be true that no one expected Kawhi to want to leave SA, it's not an illogical move; it's nothing more than his personal preference. Completely lopsided and idiotic trades are illogical and they generally don't happen.
Yes. Unexpected things happening does not equate to "anything is possible". Those are two completely different statements and one does not follow from the other.
Just shrugging and saying "miracles can happen" doesn't get you anywhere in terms of an argument.
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sfballa13 wrote:I dont think we would need to throw in Stanley or Kennard, honestly
Memphis wants to win and NOW, they want an all star to put butts in their seats
This would be THE perfect move for us, finally getting us a top 5 pick, maybe Doncic falls
So does Tom Gores
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thesack12 wrote:sfballa13 wrote:I dont think we would need to throw in Stanley or Kennard, honestly
Memphis wants to win and NOW, they want an all star to put butts in their seats
This would be THE perfect move for us, finally getting us a top 5 pick, maybe Doncic falls
So does Tom Gores
Even with Blake Griffin attendance didnt spike, before he left with Tobias our team didnt have the best record either
A top 5 pick that the fans can watch grow, unless he is a gigantic bust, would bring more fans to the arena than Griffin
Despite what others think we will be lucky to be in the talk for #5-8 next season as Boston, Philly, Toronto, Milwaukee all have better teams than us and Miami would also be right there since Waiters elevates them to much better play. Griffin/#4 doesnt move the needle either way. With Blake we would be at #5 maybe #6 with the #4 pick probably the last two seeds getting in right at the end of the season. Does a 5th vs an 8th seed team have better attendance?
Gores is an idiot so this conversation is mute but Memphis isnt getting any takers for that Parsons contract (surprisingly) and we need to make the move esp if Doncic is still on the board. Teaming up Doncic with Drummond would be disgusting
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Memphis in: Blake
Nuggets in: Ish, Ellenson, Andrew Harrison
Pistons in: #4 / #14 / Parsons / Faried
Denver wants to move Faried to cut money, this saves about $7 mil (Harrison is a non-guaranteed) and gives them a useful backup PG.
Memphis gets a third star and dumps Parsons money.
#4 - hope Doncic falls / #14 - hope Miles Bridges falls
Parsons / Reggie / Leuer / Galloway all expire in summer 2020. Go full out tank commander with the youth in hopes of adding high picks in 2019 / 2020.
Summer of 2020:
Dre
Doncic
Bridges
Kennard
2019 1st
2020 1st
With cap space for 2 max FAs.
Nuggets in: Ish, Ellenson, Andrew Harrison
Pistons in: #4 / #14 / Parsons / Faried
Denver wants to move Faried to cut money, this saves about $7 mil (Harrison is a non-guaranteed) and gives them a useful backup PG.
Memphis gets a third star and dumps Parsons money.
#4 - hope Doncic falls / #14 - hope Miles Bridges falls
Parsons / Reggie / Leuer / Galloway all expire in summer 2020. Go full out tank commander with the youth in hopes of adding high picks in 2019 / 2020.
Summer of 2020:
Dre
Doncic
Bridges
Kennard
2019 1st
2020 1st
With cap space for 2 max FAs.
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sfballa13 wrote:thesack12 wrote:sfballa13 wrote:I dont think we would need to throw in Stanley or Kennard, honestly
Memphis wants to win and NOW, they want an all star to put butts in their seats
This would be THE perfect move for us, finally getting us a top 5 pick, maybe Doncic falls
So does Tom Gores
Even with Blake Griffin attendance didnt spike, before he left with Tobias our team didnt have the best record either
A top 5 pick that the fans can watch grow, unless he is a gigantic bust, would bring more fans to the arena than Griffin
Despite what others think we will be lucky to be in the talk for #5-8 next season as Boston, Philly, Toronto, Milwaukee all have better teams than us and Miami would also be right there since Waiters elevates them to much better play. Griffin/#4 doesnt move the needle either way. With Blake we would be at #5 maybe #6 with the #4 pick probably the last two seeds getting in right at the end of the season. Does a 5th vs an 8th seed team have better attendance?
Gores is an idiot so this conversation is mute but Memphis isnt getting any takers for that Parsons contract (surprisingly) and we need to make the move esp if Doncic is still on the board. Teaming up Doncic with Drummond would be disgusting
Appealing to the casual fans is what you need to do in order to sale tickets. Putting up a well known name brand like "Blake Griffin" on the marquee would theoretically drive sales much more than a #4 draft pick. Especially when, that draft pick isn't going to be extremely hyped up (in the main stream) like some of the more well known draft prospects in recent years have been. A lot of those casual fans have never heard of a Jaren Jackson, Mo Bamba, Luka Doncic, Marvin Bagley, or Michael Porter.
Pistons fans are a little bit different breed because we are used to not having a team built on name brands and stars. Pistons fans will show up in droves when the team is winning, and they haven't been doing that for awhile. This is why LCA stays empty.
But, like you said its a moot discussion anyways because Gores vision and outlook is extremely flawed.
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Blake isn’t going anywhere with that contract, plus other teams are not knocking our door down for him. All of your trade fantasies are just that. Fantasies!
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TC-Flint wrote:Blake isn’t going anywhere with that contract, plus other teams are not knocking our door down for him. All of your trade fantasies are just that. Fantasies!
Dude. You seem not to realize that this is a DISCUSSION FORUM. We discuss things here. If you don't like the content of the discussions, then butt out. It's as simple as that. Stop trying to moderate them.
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Blake ain't going anywhere this year because the Pistons just invested to obtain him and have only played less than half a season with him. Thus, this is the NBA2K thread of fantasy dream trades.
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Crymson wrote:TC-Flint wrote:Blake isn’t going anywhere with that contract, plus other teams are not knocking our door down for him. All of your trade fantasies are just that. Fantasies!
Dude. You seem not to realize that this is a DISCUSSION FORUM. We discuss things here. If you don't like the content of the discussions, then butt out. It's as simple as that. Stop trying to moderate them.
Dude. Discuss real things. Don’t taint the discussion with things that are fantasy or write a novel or tell us of your continued hate for Gores or the same old Pistons. That stuff gets so old. Some people here think they know it all and comment on every single topic. I will continue to comment on that kind of content!!!