Drummond for Otto Porter

DCintheD · Post #1 » by **DCintheD** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:16 am

Fair trade imo. Porter’s got more upside and is more of what this team needs than what Drummond brings. Drummond can be better for wizards than he is for pistons. Not gonna get Beal, and Wall makes more sense for them to trade over the summer.
Everyone that thinks Drummond’s stats are a reason to keep him need to realize his stats aren’t impacting the win/loss column. They’re empty. Otto will lockdown and solidify our wing position at the very least. This is just a bad year for him health wise. Same age, same contract. Both can benefit from a change of scenery.

Manocad · Post #2 » by **Manocad** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:00 am

Sure.

Think Washington will buy that?

coordinator0 · Post #3 » by **coordinator0** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:09 am

I think Griffin can play a good amount of minutes occasionally at center. Not sure if you want him there for a lot of minutes every night though. Losing Drummond and adding Porter hurts because the Pistons don't have a "big" that can step in at center for quality minutes every game.

As for just considering the deal itself... maybe? I hate that deal for Porter though. He's less impactful than Drummond even if you consider Andre's production as empty stats. Solid no doubt. But closer to meh than you'd like.

DetroitSho · Post #4 » by **DetroitSho** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:18 am

Yeah let's do it and after the trade we'll then have 2 above average starters on the whole roster. You know, kinda like we already have now. Going from 2 before the trade to 2 after the trade is going to make us so much better.
*rolls eyes*

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BadMofoPimp · Post #5 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:32 pm

One of the most ridiculous trades I have seen here in a while.

vege · Post #6 » by **vege** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:15 pm

Good to see that I'm not the only one who think this is awful. Drummond if soft and has a low bbiq but he is good. He is frustrating tho, he could be so much more.

Moses ShamMoses · Post #7 » by **Moses ShamMoses** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:21 pm

What about Jackson + Leuer + 2019 first for Otto Porter? I doubt we'd get a player as good as Otto in the draft.

DCintheD · Post #8 » by **DCintheD** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:04 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:One of the most ridiculous trades I have seen here in a while.

explain? you must be one of those people that bought into the Drummond 3 point hype :lol:

Uncle Mxy · Post #9 » by **Uncle Mxy** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:15 pm

Why are we sending Washington a Christmas present? What did they do for us?

BadMofoPimp · Post #10 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:16 pm

While we are at it, lets trade Blake for Wall.

DetroitSho · Post #11 » by **DetroitSho** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:16 pm

DCintheD wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:One of the most ridiculous trades I have seen here in a while.

explain? you must be one of those people that bought into the Drummond 3 point hype

Well you're the OP, the burden of proof is actually on you. How about you explain how this is a good trade beyond Otto solidifying our wing position? What does that even mean? Like will we be able to throw him the ball and have him create for himself and others? Because if no, he'd just be the "Reggie Bullock on steroids" that he currently is. And we're getting that from Reggie for 10% of the price.

Plus you want to trade an iron man with a contract you apparently don't care much for, for an admitted injury prone guy with the same contract and we still don't win more games? Acquiring Otto Porter makes us better. But subtracting Dre and adding Otto doesn't.

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Invictus88 · Post #12 » by **Invictus88** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:57 pm

Moses ShamMoses wrote:What about Jackson + Leuer + 2019 first for Otto Porter? I doubt we'd get a player as good as Otto in the draft.

So let's dissect this.

Washington has John Wall who will make 40 mil+ at pg. Jackson is a pg making 16 mil that isn't earning that money.
I'm sure if they are on a team together that they will be best friends. Couldn't resist the sarcasm

Leuer is... Leuer. Negative trade value because of his contract.

And for the FRP you state above: "I doubt we'd get a player as good as Otto in the draft".

When coming up with a trade idea it's almost required to think about how the pieces fit for both sides.
I don't think you did this.

Moses ShamMoses · Post #13 » by **Moses ShamMoses** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:19 pm

Invictus88 wrote:
Moses ShamMoses wrote:What about Jackson + Leuer + 2019 first for Otto Porter? I doubt we'd get a player as good as Otto in the draft.

So let's dissect this.

Washington has John Wall who will make 40 mil+ at pg. Jackson is a pg making 16 mil that isn't earning that money.
I'm sure if they are on a team together that they will be best friends. Couldn't resist the sarcasm

Leuer is... Leuer. Negative trade value because of his contract.

And for the FRP you state above: "I doubt we'd get a player as good as Otto in the draft".

When coming up with a trade idea it's almost required to think about how the pieces fit for both sides.
I don't think you did this.

Yeah I didn't think through it enough to post it on the trades board or anything. I was more or less stating this is the 'type' of package I would trade for an overpaid but somewhat productive player.

7r5ur · Post #14 » by **7r5ur** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:42 pm

Grass is always greener...

Porter puts up Reggie Bullock numbers and makes Andre Drummond money. And how does Porter "Have more upside?" Andre is younger!

:noway:

tradez401 · Post #15 » by **tradez401** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:01 pm

i'd pass on this deal i would only do drummond for beal.

MotownMadness · Post #16 » by **MotownMadness** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:17 pm

DetroitSho · Post #17 » by **DetroitSho** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:21 pm

BDM22 wrote:Grass is always greener...

Porter puts up Reggie Bullock numbers and makes Andre Drummond money. And how does Porter "Have more upside?" Andre is younger!

Because to some Andre Drummond is the biggest disappointment the NBA has seen this side of Darko.

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Hangry Jalapeno · Post #18 » by **Hangry Jalapeno** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:37 pm

Drummond for Porter makes little sense unless there's more to it, like getting some 1st rd picks. Heard Dallas may be shopping Dennis Smith Jr. around, anyway we can score a trade for him?

MotownMadness · Post #19 » by **MotownMadness** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:41 pm

Hangry Jalapeno wrote:Drummond for Porter makes little sense unless there's more to it, like getting some 1st rd picks. Heard Dallas may be shopping Dennis Smith Jr. around, anyway we can score a trade for him?

Yeah I want him

DBC10 · Post #20 » by **DBC10** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:33 pm

Drummond for Beal is the only sensible one since we need a star caliber SG like yesterday.