Trade targets in the offseason

[Canadafan]

Assets;
-RJ LG and Leuer equals $34million in expirings
-Our 1st rounder will be at worst 17th if we get to the 6th seed.
-Luke

Targets;
-Jrue Holiday
-Bradley Beal

What other targets are out there? Would be nice to get 2 or 3 guys to team up with Andre and Blake.
Who else do you guys see out there?

[Det313Pound]

Would hope that a team like NY strikes out on KD, and gets desperate for Blake.

[DCintheD]

Lillard or McCollum. Gotta hope they break those two apart if they don’t get past the 1st round again.

Last resort without trading any picks would be Conley.

[DetroitPistons]

Lillard or McCollum. Gotta hope they break those two apart if they don’t get past the 1st round again.

Last resort without trading any picks would be Conley.

I haven't double checked this but I heard that POR has a few of the bigger contracts expiring next year so they could very easily hold onto both McCollum and Lillard and then trade expirings and picks for a legit wing to go with those 2 plus Nurkic. That would be a pretty good team.

[Kilo]

Expiring contract players don't have real value in the off-season - they tick up in value come during next season and specifically closer to the deadline as teams start realizing they're not as good as they thought and decide to do a rebuild and need to off-load guaranteed money for off-season ca space.

A couple problems with valuation of Reggie, Langston and Jon is that many teams will have big expirings come next season as it's the year the skyrocketing cap off-season contracts come to an end. Also the 2020 free agent class isn't near the caliber of the 2019 class, so teams won't value cap space for the free agent feeding frenzy as teams were this season. Assuming Anthony Davis extends wherever he lands this off-season, the biggest names of the 2020 UFA class are Kyle Lowry, Draymond Green and Paul Millsap. The RFA's are the Ben Simmons draft class, but RFA's worth poaching get matched.

Griffin could hold real value if teams strike out in free agency. There seems to be enough big names to go around - but if the Lakers strike out they might throw an offer for Griffin.

We would be interested in Jrue, but the cost is probably prohibitive. Unless they're interested in Drummond, we're probably looking at Kennard, 2020 FRP, 2022 FRP as our opening offer just to keep New Orleans answering our calls.

[DetroitPistons]

Expiring contract players don't have real value in the off-season - they tick up in value come during next season and specifically closer to the deadline as teams start realizing they're not as good as they thought and decide to do a rebuild and need to off-load guaranteed money for off-season ca space.

A couple problems with valuation of Reggie, Langston and Jon is that many teams will have big expirings come next season as it's the year the skyrocketing cap off-season contracts come to an end. Also the 2020 free agent class isn't near the caliber of the 2019 class, so teams won't value cap space for the free agent feeding frenzy as teams were this season. Assuming Anthony Davis extends wherever he lands this off-season, the biggest names of the 2020 UFA class are Kyle Lowry, Draymond Green and Paul Millsap. The RFA's are the Ben Simmons draft class, but RFA's worth poaching get matched.

Griffin could hold real value if teams strike out in free agency. There seems to be enough big names to go around - but if the Lakers strike out they might throw an offer for Griffin.

We would be interested in Jrue, but the cost is probably prohibitive. Unless they're interested in Drummond, we're probably looking at Kennard, 2020 FRP, 2022 FRP as our opening offer just to keep New Orleans answering our calls.

These are all good points. I wouldn't be putting as much stock in the expirings as much as other prospects and picks but expirings will most likely be a starting point so it's good we have them. People always overrate the value of star players and how often to teams trade 2 FRPs plus a prospect? I think that is great value for NOP and I doubt they get much better offers although I could be wrong of course. We will see.

Look at Butler for though. PHI got him for just Saric and RoCo. I thought that was a terrible return for MIN when they did that trade and think it's even worse now. Saric is averaging 11ppg on 36.4% shooting and 30% from 3! YUCK. RoCo is averaging 11.3ppg on better shooting percentages but has a bloated contract. That trade looks AWFUL and MIN got zero picks for one of the best wings in the league. I see no reason why we couldn't get someone like Holiday for 2 FRPs and Kennard, especially considering we have been lottery bound for the past decade so teams will think those picks could be really good.

[DetroitSho]

Expiring contract players don't have real value in the off-season - they tick up in value come during next season and specifically closer to the deadline as teams start realizing they're not as good as they thought and decide to do a rebuild and need to off-load guaranteed money for off-season ca space.

A couple problems with valuation of Reggie, Langston and Jon is that many teams will have big expirings come next season as it's the year the skyrocketing cap off-season contracts come to an end. Also the 2020 free agent class isn't near the caliber of the 2019 class, so teams won't value cap space for the free agent feeding frenzy as teams were this season. Assuming Anthony Davis extends wherever he lands this off-season, the biggest names of the 2020 UFA class are Kyle Lowry, Draymond Green and Paul Millsap. The RFA's are the Ben Simmons draft class, but RFA's worth poaching get matched.

Griffin could hold real value if teams strike out in free agency. There seems to be enough big names to go around - but if the Lakers strike out they might throw an offer for Griffin.

We would be interested in Jrue, but the cost is probably prohibitive. Unless they're interested in Drummond, we're probably looking at Kennard, 2020 FRP, 2022 FRP as our opening offer just to keep New Orleans answering our calls.

These are all good points. I wouldn't be putting as much stock in the expirings as much as other prospects and picks but expirings will most likely be a starting point so it's good we have them. People always overrate the value of star players and how often to teams trade 2 FRPs plus a prospect? I think that is great value for NOP and I doubt they get much better offers although I could be wrong of course. We will see.

Look at Butler for though. PHI got him for just Saric and RoCo. I thought that was a terrible return for MIN when they did that trade and think it's even worse now. Saric is averaging 11ppg on 36.4% shooting and 30% from 3! YUCK. RoCo is averaging 11.3ppg on better shooting percentages but has a bloated contract. That trade looks AWFUL and MIN got zero picks for one of the best wings in the league. I see no reason why we couldn't get someone like Holiday for 2 FRPs and Kennard, especially considering we have been lottery bound for the past decade so teams will think those picks could be really good.

Hmmmm something to think about. Can't disagree.

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[DBC10]

Expiring contract players don't have real value in the off-season - they tick up in value come during next season and specifically closer to the deadline as teams start realizing they're not as good as they thought and decide to do a rebuild and need to off-load guaranteed money for off-season ca space.

A couple problems with valuation of Reggie, Langston and Jon is that many teams will have big expirings come next season as it's the year the skyrocketing cap off-season contracts come to an end. Also the 2020 free agent class isn't near the caliber of the 2019 class, so teams won't value cap space for the free agent feeding frenzy as teams were this season. Assuming Anthony Davis extends wherever he lands this off-season, the biggest names of the 2020 UFA class are Kyle Lowry, Draymond Green and Paul Millsap. The RFA's are the Ben Simmons draft class, but RFA's worth poaching get matched.

Griffin could hold real value if teams strike out in free agency. There seems to be enough big names to go around - but if the Lakers strike out they might throw an offer for Griffin.

We would be interested in Jrue, but the cost is probably prohibitive. Unless they're interested in Drummond, we're probably looking at Kennard, 2020 FRP, 2022 FRP as our opening offer just to keep New Orleans answering our calls.

These are all good points. I wouldn't be putting as much stock in the expirings as much as other prospects and picks but expirings will most likely be a starting point so it's good we have them. People always overrate the value of star players and how often to teams trade 2 FRPs plus a prospect? I think that is great value for NOP and I doubt they get much better offers although I could be wrong of course. We will see.

Look at Butler for though. PHI got him for just Saric and RoCo. I thought that was a terrible return for MIN when they did that trade and think it's even worse now. Saric is averaging 11ppg on 36.4% shooting and 30% from 3! YUCK. RoCo is averaging 11.3ppg on better shooting percentages but has a bloated contract. That trade looks AWFUL and MIN got zero picks for one of the best wings in the league. I see no reason why we couldn't get someone like Holiday for 2 FRPs and Kennard, especially considering we have been lottery bound for the past decade so teams will think those picks could be really good.

When you trade someone like Anthony Davis, someone that’s probably the best PF prospect since KG both defensively and offensively, you have to net at least a young player that’s going to be an all nba type guy. Zach Lowe explained this before on his pod, that if you don’t meet at least that minimum, your franchise is screwed for the next likely decade. It’s been time and time again for those teams that trade that one shining disgruntled star and they don’t get the young guy back that they just don’t do anything again for a while.

NOLA doesn’t have time to be even more irrelevant right now since at this point Gayle will likely just sell if she doesn’t get a player that she can build around so the Saints aren’t always the only relevant thing in NOLA.

There’s a good chance that if somehow the Knicks get Zion, it might be in play for a blockbuster AD trade. And if Boston doesn’t cough up Taytum.

[sc8581]

Lillard or McCollum. Gotta hope they break those two apart if they don’t get past the 1st round again.

Last resort without trading any picks would be Conley.

McCollum would cost much more than he's worth and we don't have the assets Portland would want for Lillard.

[The_Irony]

I'd rather draft a PG and get some established wings.. we have to have the worst core of sgs and sfs in the nba

[Billl]

I wouldn't expect that we would make any big offseason moves unless we magically won the lottery. Otherwise, the plan seems to be to leverage all our expirings at the next trade deadline. The cap oriented moves for this summer are the ones teams just finished making.

[ChipButty]

I think Conley gets traded this offseason. We know a trade was already close and with Thon, Svi, and the Lakers 2nd I think we now have enough assets and expiring contracts to make this happen.

[TurboTitan]

I want no part of Mccollum hes been awful this season

[DetroitPistons]

I want no part of Mccollum hes been awful this season

21.3ppg 46.2 FG%, 36.6 3P%, 4rpg, 2.7apg

I certainly wouldn't call that awful. That is pretty darn good.

[TurboTitan]

I want no part of Mccollum hes been awful this season

21.3ppg 46.2 FG%, 36.6 3P%, 4rpg, 2.7apg

I certainly wouldn't call that awful. That is pretty darn good.

he has one of the lowest BBIQs in the league and is really bad at every aspect of the game except for spot up shooting which he is elite at.

[sc8581]

I want no part of Mccollum hes been awful this season

21.3ppg 46.2 FG%, 36.6 3P%, 4rpg, 2.7apg

I certainly wouldn't call that awful. That is pretty darn good.

he has one of the lowest BBIQs in the league and is really bad at every aspect of the game except for spot up shooting which he is elite at.

He doesn't get to the line either, which hurts his efficiency quite a bit. Teams are looking to slow down Lillard and this guy still only shows up maybe half the time. Personally, I would rather go after Aminu, or Nurkic if we end up moving Dre.

[Canadafan]

I'd rather draft a PG and get some established wings.. we have to have the worst core of sgs and sfs in the nba

Wish we coulda got Fultz somehow

[Kilo]

I'd rather draft a PG and get some established wings.. we have to have the worst core of sgs and sfs in the nba

Wish we coulda got Fultz somehow

Too much of a gamble for a "win now" team right up against the tax again next season. We'll be about $15M under the tax heading into off-season before signing any of our own free agents or retaining GRIII. So if Fultz was now on the books for $10M it means we'd have $5M under the tax only and our PG rotation would be Reggie Jackson and Markelle Fultz. Now we could sign Ish back with his FBR and go into the tax, and we'd also have the tax payers MLE available with is around $5.8M, but who knows if Gores is really willing to pay the tax - especially gamble that Fultz could be "fixed" to do so.

MLE will be a bit over 9M next season, so our math could also be a FULL MLE FA vs gambling on Fultz.

[sc8581]

If we're actually trying to win now, we need to go after a PG in free agency that could possibly start if we trade Reggie or he goes back to struggling. Darren Collison, TJ McConnell or if we could somehow get Malcolm Brogdon because the Bucks can't afford to keep him, Middleton and Bledsoe.

[DBC10]

If we're actually trying to win now, we need to go after a PG in free agency that could possibly start if we trade Reggie or he goes back to struggling. Darren Collison, TJ McConnell or if we could somehow get Malcolm Brogdon because the Bucks can't afford to keep him, Middleton and Bledsoe.

Brogdon isn't really a PG, but he'd be a very complementary guard for Blake.