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Weakness of this team 

Post#1 » by DET_Athletics » Sat Mar 9, 2019 2:55 pm

This team is playing really good, but I dont think this will translate to doing good in post season. Getting a starting SF is a big need. A bigger two-way point gaurd behind Reggie is a need. Lastly, a SF/PF with some potential is the last need. I see us keeping Reggie Jackson, Moving Leuer and Galloway expirings with some picks. How do you guys see us moving this off season?

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Post#2 » by DetroitSho » Sat Mar 9, 2019 3:06 pm

DET_Athletics wrote:This team is playing really good, but I dont think this will translate to doing good in post season. Getting a starting SF is a big need. A bigger two-way point gaurd behind Reggie is a need. Lastly, a SF/PF with some potential is the last need. I see us keeping Reggie Jackson, Moving Leuer and Galloway expirings with some picks. How do you guys see us moving this off season?

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A bigger two-way back up point? For what? For what he does and his ability to impact the game, I'd put Ish up against any backup PG. You'd take a Mudiay or ffs a Dellavedova over that just because they're bigger?

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Re: Weakness of this team 

Post#3 » by Manocad » Sat Mar 9, 2019 3:26 pm

I see this thread moving to the Targets in the Off Season thread
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Re: Weakness of this team 

Post#4 » by DET_Athletics » Sat Mar 9, 2019 3:26 pm

Honestly the only two point guards I would take over Ish that are realistic is Mudiay or trade for Marcus Smart or Schroder. We need more defense at the gaurd position. But dont get me wrong ish brings a lot to the offense, but in the postseason when things slow down, we need someone that is going to be able to match up better.

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Re: Weakness of this team 

Post#5 » by DET_Athletics » Sat Mar 9, 2019 3:29 pm

Your right, I should have posed the question "what do you think the weakness are? And how would you go about fixing them this offseason?"
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Post#6 » by DBC10 » Sat Mar 9, 2019 3:43 pm

Biggest is our perimeter play potentially falling off a cliff and coming back down to earth. Literally no starting calibre small forward. Which has been almost the decade besides Marcus Morris chucking fade-away twos.
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Re: Weakness of this team 

Post#7 » by DetroitSho » Sat Mar 9, 2019 5:23 pm

DET_Athletics wrote:Honestly the only two point guards I would take over Ish that are realistic is Mudiay or trade for Marcus Smart or Schroder. We need more defense at the gaurd position. But dont get me wrong ish brings a lot to the offense, but in the postseason when things slow down, we need someone that is going to be able to match up better.

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What is it about those 3 options that scream "able to run a half court offense" better than Ish that would make them a better option? Especially considering the price.

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Post#8 » by mattao313 » Sat Mar 9, 2019 5:50 pm

Desperately need a wing player that preferably isnt a one trick pony type. Also need a back up center.
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Re: Weakness of this team 

Post#9 » by Snakebites » Sat Mar 9, 2019 5:53 pm

We need a wing player who can both defend and reliably knock down three point shots.

If they have some playmaking too that'd be great.

Those aren't super valuable or hard to get or anything, right?

I'm excited about how the team is playing, but we've got a ways before we should be taken seriously as much besides a fringe playoff team.
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Re: Weakness of this team 

Post#10 » by GreekAlex » Sat Mar 9, 2019 6:10 pm

Snakebites wrote:We need a wing player who can both defend and reliably knock down three point shots.

If they have some playmaking too that'd be great.

Those aren't super valuable or hard to get or anything, right?

I'm excited about how the team is playing, but we've got a ways before we should be taken seriously as much besides a fringe playoff team.


That’s exactly the type of player that would take this team up another level and with that bring more consistentcy.

I had proposed something for Josh Richardson from Miami but with his team friendly contract, he appears to be worth far more to Miami than any team trying to trade for him.

Someone along the lines of a Robert Covington or a younger version of Trevor Ariza is what the team should be looking for.
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Re: Weakness of this team 

Post#11 » by Bricks50 » Sat Mar 9, 2019 6:29 pm

Weakness is the backup center, imo
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Post#12 » by DetroitSho » Sat Mar 9, 2019 6:58 pm

GreekAlex wrote:
Snakebites wrote:We need a wing player who can both defend and reliably knock down three point shots.

If they have some playmaking too that'd be great.

Those aren't super valuable or hard to get or anything, right?

I'm excited about how the team is playing, but we've got a ways before we should be taken seriously as much besides a fringe playoff team.


That’s exactly the type of player that would take this team up another level and with that bring more consistentcy.

I had proposed something for Josh Richardson from Miami but with his team friendly contract, he appears to be worth far more to Miami than any team trying to trade for him.

Someone along the lines of a Robert Covington or a younger version of Trevor Ariza is what the team should be looking for.
Yeah I had thought of Covington too. I saw your trade thread on Richardson and based on the responses from Miami fans thought the thread was about Durant with what they were saying it would take.

But I'm wondering would an expiring Leuer and our first this year be a good basis of a deal for Covington.

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Re: Weakness of this team 

Post#13 » by DocRI » Sat Mar 9, 2019 8:16 pm

DetroitSho wrote:
GreekAlex wrote:
Snakebites wrote:We need a wing player who can both defend and reliably knock down three point shots.

If they have some playmaking too that'd be great.

Those aren't super valuable or hard to get or anything, right?

I'm excited about how the team is playing, but we've got a ways before we should be taken seriously as much besides a fringe playoff team.


That’s exactly the type of player that would take this team up another level and with that bring more consistentcy.

I had proposed something for Josh Richardson from Miami but with his team friendly contract, he appears to be worth far more to Miami than any team trying to trade for him.

Someone along the lines of a Robert Covington or a younger version of Trevor Ariza is what the team should be looking for.
Yeah I had thought of Covington too. I saw your trade thread on Richardson and based on the responses from Miami fans thought the thread was about Durant with what they were saying it would take.

But I'm wondering would an expiring Leuer and our first this year be a good basis of a deal for Covington.

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Been thinking exactly this myself, but think we’d have to include another future first (fairly highly protected). And call me crazy, but for Covington, I might do it.


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Re: Weakness of this team 

Post#14 » by GreekAlex » Sat Mar 9, 2019 9:07 pm

DocRI wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:
GreekAlex wrote:
That’s exactly the type of player that would take this team up another level and with that bring more consistentcy.

I had proposed something for Josh Richardson from Miami but with his team friendly contract, he appears to be worth far more to Miami than any team trying to trade for him.

Someone along the lines of a Robert Covington or a younger version of Trevor Ariza is what the team should be looking for.
Yeah I had thought of Covington too. I saw your trade thread on Richardson and based on the responses from Miami fans thought the thread was about Durant with what they were saying it would take.

But I'm wondering would an expiring Leuer and our first this year be a good basis of a deal for Covington.

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Been thinking exactly this myself, but think we’d have to include another future first (fairly highly protected). And call me crazy, but for Covington, I might do it.


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I think Robert Covington would be a great fit but he routinely misses 15 games per season. I'd do the expiring + 17th pick for him but I can't help but think it may be short sighted.

As thrilling as it might be to get Robert Covington, I believe it might be best to try to find someone to develop with that pick.

Other options to explore:

-Jaylen Brown
Boston is going to have to make some hard decisions about how they use their cap space and it will be interesting to see if he's available at some point and at what price.

-Terrance Ross
How is his defense? Is he just a better version of Galloway?

-Justin Jackson
Is he part of Dallas' future? Could he develop into that role?
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Post#15 » by Kilo » Sat Mar 9, 2019 11:34 pm

Kelly Oubre would have been a good get when DC traded him. PHX didn't seem to want him as he was going to Memphis in the three way for "Dillon".
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Re: Weakness of this team 

Post#16 » by mattao313 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:20 am

GreekAlex wrote:
DocRI wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:Yeah I had thought of Covington too. I saw your trade thread on Richardson and based on the responses from Miami fans thought the thread was about Durant with what they were saying it would take.

But I'm wondering would an expiring Leuer and our first this year be a good basis of a deal for Covington.

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Been thinking exactly this myself, but think we’d have to include another future first (fairly highly protected). And call me crazy, but for Covington, I might do it.


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I think Robert Covington would be a great fit but he routinely misses 15 games per season. I'd do the expiring + 17th pick for him but I can't help but think it may be short sighted.

As thrilling as it might be to get Robert Covington, I believe it might be best to try to find someone to develop with that pick.

Other options to explore:

-Jaylen Brown
Boston is going to have to make some hard decisions about how they use their cap space and it will be interesting to see if he's available at some point and at what price.

-Terrance Ross
How is his defense? Is he just a better version of Galloway?

-Justin Jackson
Is he part of Dallas' future? Could he develop into that role?

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Re: Weakness of this team 

Post#17 » by mercury » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:44 am

mattao313 wrote:
GreekAlex wrote:
DocRI wrote:
Been thinking exactly this myself, but think we’d have to include another future first (fairly highly protected). And call me crazy, but for Covington, I might do it.


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I think Robert Covington would be a great fit but he routinely misses 15 games per season. I'd do the expiring + 17th pick for him but I can't help but think it may be short sighted.

As thrilling as it might be to get Robert Covington, I believe it might be best to try to find someone to develop with that pick.

Other options to explore:

-Jaylen Brown
Boston is going to have to make some hard decisions about how they use their cap space and it will be interesting to see if he's available at some point and at what price.

-Terrance Ross
How is his defense? Is he just a better version of Galloway?

-Justin Jackson
Is he part of Dallas' future? Could he develop into that role?

KCP bring em home.

At this stage they need to be cautious of bringing in the right fit... The last thing we need is a high usage wing... The sharing and percentages are good.
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Post#18 » by _Und3r][D4wg_ » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:57 am

In the meantime, let the assistant coaches work with Svi so he can improve his D to go with his 3. A 6' 8" dead-shot from beyond the arc shouldn't have to rot on the bench when he can pose mismatch problems against some teams coming off the bench.
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Post#19 » by GreekAlex » Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:02 am

_Und3r][D4wg_ wrote:In the meantime, let the assistant coaches work with Svi so he can improve his D to go with his 3. A 6' 8" dead-shot from beyond the arc shouldn't have to rot on the bench when he can pose mismatch problems against some teams coming off the bench.


Which current player in the rotation should be replaced by him?
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Post#20 » by vege » Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:04 am

GreekAlex wrote:
DocRI wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:Yeah I had thought of Covington too. I saw your trade thread on Richardson and based on the responses from Miami fans thought the thread was about Durant with what they were saying it would take.

But I'm wondering would an expiring Leuer and our first this year be a good basis of a deal for Covington.

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Been thinking exactly this myself, but think we’d have to include another future first (fairly highly protected). And call me crazy, but for Covington, I might do it.


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I think Robert Covington would be a great fit but he routinely misses 15 games per season. I'd do the expiring + 17th pick for him but I can't help but think it may be short sighted.

As thrilling as it might be to get Robert Covington, I believe it might be best to try to find someone to develop with that pick.

Other options to explore:

-Jaylen Brown
Boston is going to have to make some hard decisions about how they use their cap space and it will be interesting to see if he's available at some point and at what price.

-Terrance Ross
How is his defense? Is he just a better version of Galloway?

-Justin Jackson
Is he part of Dallas' future? Could he develop into that role?


I like DeMarre Carroll and we should be able to get him for the MLE. He is big and good defender and he is an average 3 point shooter.

Taurean Prince is another guy I like a lot but not sure if we can get him.

Other than those 2 guys I have no idea. Ross is good but we need a better defender, and I see Ross more like a scorer off the bench, we have Kennard for that already. Justin Jackson is absolutely awful, Jaylen Brown is unrealistic.

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