ImageImageImage

Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you.

Moderators: Cowology, Snakebites, theBigLip, dVs33

User avatar
zeebneeb
RealGM
Posts: 17,503
And1: 10,715
Joined: Jun 30, 2003
Location: ANGERVILLE: Population 1
 

Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you. 

Post#1 » by zeebneeb » Mon Apr 1, 2019 5:21 pm

Bruce brown goes about his business playing damn good defense with that crazy eyed tenacity few NBA players have on that side of the ball. He obviously watches tape on his opponents and comes ready to battle every night.

Things he should do to become a legitimate starter in this league;

1.)Ball handling. At his position he absolutely must have solid handles and the ability to bring the ball up the floor and initiate the offense from time to time. With improved ball handling skills will come more scoring opportunities off of screens, and dives to the basket.

2.)shooting. 36%+ from three. Brown would be an amazing 3-D player as his defense is already there. Catch and shoot, coming off of screens and curls.

3.)Strength. This goes hand in hand with shooting. Improved strength will allow him to rise up and shoot those 3's off of screens and curls. This will also allow him to defend larger players with more effectiveness.

Brown is an old school type of player, and with the right changes could be amazing at his position. Great job for a rookie. A rookie starter for a soon to be playoff team. He is never talked about, but his defense, for a rookie has been nothing short of brilliant.

This old school Pistons fan recognizes your defense Bruce. Keep it up.
hoophabit
Analyst
Posts: 3,624
And1: 1,350
Joined: Jan 19, 2002
 

Re: Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you. 

Post#2 » by hoophabit » Mon Apr 1, 2019 5:46 pm

Bruce is a good team player. Gives up his body and hustles at all times. I'm sure he can get stronger, but he was the strongest guard at the combine last year, and was second overall in the bench press with 17 reps. Definitely needs a more consistent shot. Casey obviously likes what he brings.
Billl
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,322
And1: 2,379
Joined: Sep 06, 2013

Re: Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you. 

Post#3 » by Billl » Mon Apr 1, 2019 7:33 pm

For a second round pick, defensively he's killing it. Let's not try to undersell how much he needs to improve offensively though. He might well have the lowest scoring output of any rotation player in the league. His handle looks fine and his shot isn't bad looking, but his confidence on that end is extremely low. He obviously is a hard worker, so I expect him to improve, but I don't think it's going to come naturally to him.
bstein14
RealGM
Posts: 30,824
And1: 8,045
Joined: Jun 22, 2001

Re: Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you. 

Post#4 » by bstein14 » Mon Apr 1, 2019 8:03 pm

He's very much like a young Aaron Afflalo type. And he knows he needs to work like hell this summer getting better on that three point shot so I think his potential is there to take a big step forward next summer. You have to love the way he gets after it defensively and the fact as a rookie 2nd rounder he's been willing to call out other Pistons players for lack of effort/energy. He is going to have a long career in this league even if he isn't a starter long term.
User avatar
pistonsbball
Veteran
Posts: 2,528
And1: 1,550
Joined: Jul 04, 2012
   

Re: Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you. 

Post#5 » by pistonsbball » Mon Apr 1, 2019 11:05 pm

Bruce will make it. He's not just talk and will actually work to improve his game. He's a competitor and wants to win.
DBC10
General Manager
Posts: 9,926
And1: 2,799
Joined: Jun 01, 2013
 

Re: Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you. 

Post#6 » by DBC10 » Tue Apr 2, 2019 1:50 pm

If he's like a diamond in the rough like how the Jerami Grants or Andre Roberson's of the world, then we got a good piece.

Honestly, he does look like he's in that mold of what Roberson is. Except his shot doesn't look broken which is a good sign.
DetroitPistons
RealGM
Posts: 16,113
And1: 3,441
Joined: Apr 19, 2010
Location: Michigan

Re: Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you. 

Post#7 » by DetroitPistons » Tue Apr 2, 2019 2:05 pm

It's nice having Brown to put on the opposing team's best perimeter player, especially when we have no good SFs, but I have a hard time seeing him developing into a consistently competent offensive player. Hopefully I'm wrong but I think he will be a poor man's Tony Allen.
User avatar
zeebneeb
RealGM
Posts: 17,503
And1: 10,715
Joined: Jun 30, 2003
Location: ANGERVILLE: Population 1
 

Re: Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you. 

Post#8 » by zeebneeb » Tue Apr 2, 2019 9:29 pm

DetroitPistons wrote:It's nice having Brown to put on the opposing team's best perimeter player, especially when we have no good SFs, but I have a hard time seeing him developing into a consistently competent offensive player. Hopefully I'm wrong but I think he will be a poor man's Tony Allen.
That's what I'm hoping for. If he can consistently hit the 3 (33% would even work)he becomes a threat on offense and coupled with his defense, you have that starter that just hounds whoever hes matched up against. Pair him with Bradley Beal. They just fired their GM of 50 years so they may be open to a quick chat.
User avatar
srt4b
Head Coach
Posts: 6,042
And1: 93
Joined: May 08, 2004
Location: I get around

Re: Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you. 

Post#9 » by srt4b » Thu Apr 4, 2019 1:22 pm

I see the hustle but I also see a ton of low IQ plays out there. Lots of blown assignments, ball watching, getting blown out on picks, etc. His offense is so terrible he is a liability even when playing decent defense.
Moses ShamMoses
Analyst
Posts: 3,375
And1: 1,314
Joined: Nov 28, 2012
   

Re: Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you. 

Post#10 » by Moses ShamMoses » Thu Apr 4, 2019 1:47 pm

He needs to work hard this summer to make it in this league but I'm happy with him being a second rounder at all.
Jeff Van Gundy on his brother's Pistons: 'He took over the Titanic and it's sinking even quicker'
User avatar
Snakebites
Forum Mod - Pistons
Forum Mod - Pistons
Posts: 46,589
And1: 14,772
Joined: Jul 14, 2002
Location: Looking not-so-happily deranged
   

Re: Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you. 

Post#11 » by Snakebites » Thu Apr 4, 2019 7:18 pm

Brown's gotta be one of the worst starters in the NBA, if not the worst.

And that's totally not his fault- he shouldn't be starting but we need somebody who can play a lick of defense. I like him. He plays hard- he's just not all that capable. I have hope that he'll eventually become a solid guy off the bench, but another starting wing is a must for this team, and I'm not sure Kennard can ever be it. Need to look externally again.
sludgefoot
Junior
Posts: 282
And1: 80
Joined: Jul 13, 2017

Re: Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you. 

Post#12 » by sludgefoot » Sat Apr 6, 2019 12:01 am

Maybe someday. Not even close now. 4pts a game...there is no defense good enough to make up for 4pts a game, mediocre ball handling, very limited BB sense. Forcing your offense to play 4 on 5.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using RealGM mobile app
El Chivo
Starter
Posts: 2,308
And1: 969
Joined: Jun 19, 2015
Location: Roma
       

Re: Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you. 

Post#13 » by El Chivo » Sat Apr 6, 2019 8:20 am

Appreciate the hustle but we have the Nba worst backcourt.
You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
User avatar
Manocad
RealGM
Posts: 69,969
And1: 10,561
Joined: Dec 13, 2005
Location: Middle Fingerton
Contact:
       

Re: Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you. 

Post#14 » by Manocad » Sat Apr 6, 2019 7:38 pm

Billl wrote:For a second round pick, defensively he's killing it. Let's not try to undersell how much he needs to improve offensively though. He might well have the lowest scoring output of any rotation player in the league. His handle looks fine and his shot isn't bad looking, but his confidence on that end is extremely low. He obviously is a hard worker, so I expect him to improve, but I don't think it's going to come naturally to him.

Agree 100%
Image
User avatar
whitehops
General Manager
Posts: 7,892
And1: 6,503
Joined: Dec 12, 2012
Location: Toronto
     

Re: Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you. 

Post#15 » by whitehops » Sat Apr 6, 2019 10:06 pm

i initially thought his ceiling offensively would be something like tyreke evans/lance stephenson/evan turner where they aren't great scorers but can dribble and create a bit as wing players. i thought the same thing about stanley johnson as a prospect (because he was the lead ball handler in college, like brown) though so that doesn't really mean much.

he comes from a football background so i don't know if shooting is going to come naturally to him, hopefully he can at least be a passable catch and shoot player though.
sludgefoot
Junior
Posts: 282
And1: 80
Joined: Jul 13, 2017

Re: Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you. 

Post#16 » by sludgefoot » Tue Apr 9, 2019 12:22 pm

Good defense, poor 3pt shot, no jump shot, limited ball handling, and best move is driving to basket = Stanley (Bruce Brown) Johnson.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using RealGM mobile app
Redeemed
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,519
And1: 419
Joined: Apr 06, 2012
     

Re: Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you. 

Post#17 » by Redeemed » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:31 pm

Physical defender versatile enough to guard multiple positions. This puts him head and shoulders above where rookies typically are in their first season. He's athletic. His offensive skills can be described as raw at best. There doesn't appear to be anything fundamentally broken with his jump shot, so it may be just a matter of refining his fundamentals and developing his touch. His handles are basic -- there's definite room for improvement here.

The good thing is, he appears to be a coachable hard worker so there's reason to expect him to improve.
El Chivo
Starter
Posts: 2,308
And1: 969
Joined: Jun 19, 2015
Location: Roma
       

Re: Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you. 

Post#18 » by El Chivo » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:34 pm

I think he can establish himself as a decent starter and role player.

Khyri Thomas looks really awful, instead. Hope we didn't waste 2 second rounders with him.
You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
User avatar
Mr. Krabs
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,537
And1: 249
Joined: Feb 24, 2008
 

Re: Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you. 

Post#19 » by Mr. Krabs » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:17 pm

There is no way this guy can score any more points with our current game plan. He takes 4 shots a game.
Billl
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,322
And1: 2,379
Joined: Sep 06, 2013

Re: Bruce Brown this Pistons fan sees you. 

Post#20 » by Billl » Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:03 pm

Mr. Krabs wrote:There is no way this guy can score any more points with our current game plan. He takes 4 shots a game.


And he passes up 10. If was confident in his 3 ball, he would have plenty of open looks. He's not, so he just keeps the ball moving.

Return to Detroit Pistons