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Re: 2019 Off-season Thread 

Post#961 » by DetroitPistons » Sat Jul 6, 2019 8:52 pm

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K so he doesnt want Lakers.
How do we get him here to play with his brother?
Sign and trade?


I could see Morris taking a little less if we guarantee him a starting role and he gets to play with his brother.

Sign and trade Morris for Galloway, LAL 2021 SRP

Jackson, Snell, Doumbouya, 2020 FRP for Westbrook

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Re: 2019 Off-season Thread 

Post#962 » by detroitKG » Sat Jul 6, 2019 9:02 pm

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Re: 2019 Off-season Thread 

Post#963 » by Kilo » Sat Jul 6, 2019 9:09 pm

Mook going back to Boston I believe the rumor is.
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Re: 2019 Off-season Thread 

Post#964 » by detroitKG » Sat Jul 6, 2019 9:30 pm

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Re: 2019 Off-season Thread 

Post#965 » by mattao313 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 9:34 pm

So we couldn't beat that offer? Id rather have Marcus than Rose.
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Re: 2019 Off-season Thread 

Post#966 » by CubicalLake7 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 9:44 pm

We could not beat that offered. We had the MLE which is less than $10M.

If Mook did take a discount at the full MLE we would still have a hole at PG behind Jackson.

You can't run with Frazier as your only back up PG with Jackson injury history.
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Re: 2019 Off-season Thread 

Post#967 » by mattao313 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 9:46 pm

CubicalLake7 wrote:We could not beat that offered. We had the MLE which is less than $10M.

If Mook did take a discount at the full MLE we would still have a hole at PG behind Jackson.

You can't run with Frazier as your only back up PG with Jackson injury history.

Maybe offer more years? I mean we have rose backing up Reggie now who is a walking injury.
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Re: 2019 Off-season Thread 

Post#968 » by coordinator0 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 9:54 pm

Marcus is signing for the full MLE in San Antonio, that equals out to roughly $20 million for two years.
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Re: 2019 Off-season Thread 

Post#969 » by CubicalLake7 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:00 pm

coordinator0 wrote:Marcus is signing for the full MLE in San Antonio, that equals out to roughly $20 million for two years.


I stand corrected, I thought the full MLE was below that.

That said, we needed a PG more than a SF. I love Mook but he was not even on our radar until Kieff signed.
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Re: 2019 Off-season Thread 

Post#970 » by Pharaoh » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:09 pm

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Pharaoh wrote:To me the whole Kawhi thing just illustrates that you're never too far away.

The Raptors were a 50-win/near 50-win team that had been to the playoffs for four straight years (including the ECF) BEFORE Kawhi got there. That demonstrates how close you have to be before you need a SUPERSTAR to get over the top. The Pistons aren't even remotely close to that level. Point being, and what I've said all along, is that there is no package available this year to make this team a true championship contender. And the risk of shooting your whole wad to get that supposed "win now" team this year is that if it doesn't result in a championship you're stuck on the treadmill because you've got no salary cap or assets left to improve further. It's one thing to lose in the playoffs year after year while making moves/improving slightly each year. It's not entertaining at all to watch the slow decline from conference finals loss to 2nd round loss to 1st round loss because there are no options available for getting better after shooting the wad to create the team that was only good enough to lose in the conference finals.

In this day and age where you're not seeing any 2004 Pistons "lightning in a bottle" teams but rather only superteams winning NBA championships, and you know you're going to have to beat superteams but don't have one yourself, I don't see the logic in going all in while using an "if this, if that, if the other thing happens" kicker to boot. The "look at such-and-such team; they sat on assets and waited too long" example doesn't apply here because the Pistons haven't tried sitting on assets in order to wait to make future moves yet.
Agree we're not on that level (Toronto pre KL or Boston)

We've also never collected assets like some teams.

I don't see us being a legit title contender in the forseeable future...and that's depressing and disappointing.

I'd rather go all in and fail than be stuck on this treadmill though. The Going to Work Pistons were a long **** time ago

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Re: 2019 Off-season Thread 

Post#971 » by tradez401 » Sun Jul 7, 2019 12:03 pm

looks like dwight howard is gettin waived by the grizzlies any chance we pick him up for backup center for super cheap?
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Re: 2019 Off-season Thread 

Post#972 » by russkopp » Sun Jul 7, 2019 12:41 pm

tradez401 wrote:looks like dwight howard is gettin waived by the grizzlies any chance we pick him up for backup center for super cheap?

I wouldn’t touch the “destroyer of locker rooms” with a 10 foot pole. Zach Lowe said the Hawks players threw a small party when he was traded.
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Re: 2019 Off-season Thread 

Post#973 » by detroitKG » Mon Jul 8, 2019 11:49 pm

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Re: 2019 Off-season Thread 

Post#974 » by Great » Tue Jul 9, 2019 12:35 am

Svi, Brown, Thomas, Kennard, and Snell have the SG/SF problem solved.
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Re: 2019 Off-season Thread 

Post#975 » by Canadafan » Tue Jul 9, 2019 1:26 am

Great wrote:Svi, Brown, Thomas, Kennard, and Snell have the SG/SF problem solved.


That does not sound too promising. We could really use a big SF we're so smalllll. Bbq chicken for opposing wings
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Re: 2019 Off-season Thread 

Post#976 » by Great » Tue Jul 9, 2019 1:34 am

Canadafan wrote:
Great wrote:Svi, Brown, Thomas, Kennard, and Snell have the SG/SF problem solved.


That does not sound too promising. We could really use a big SF we're so smalllll. Bbq chicken for opposing wings


Snell, Brown, Morris, Doumbouya, and King have enough size a quickness to handle all Small Forwards.
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Re: 2019 Off-season Thread 

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Re: 2019 Off-season Thread 

Post#978 » by The_Irony » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:10 am

Great wrote:
Canadafan wrote:
Great wrote:Svi, Brown, Thomas, Kennard, and Snell have the SG/SF problem solved.


That does not sound too promising. We could really use a big SF we're so smalllll. Bbq chicken for opposing wings


Snell, Brown, Morris, Doumbouya, and King have enough size a quickness to handle all Small Forwards.



markeiff does not play small forward and Louis king looks like a high school senior out there. he's tiny and nervous.
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Re: 2019 Off-season Thread 

Post#979 » by Great » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:36 am

The_Irony wrote:
Great wrote:
Canadafan wrote:
That does not sound too promising. We could really use a big SF we're so smalllll. Bbq chicken for opposing wings


Snell, Brown, Morris, Doumbouya, and King have enough size a quickness to handle all Small Forwards.



markeiff does not play small forward and Louis king looks like a high school senior out there. he's tiny and nervous.


Morris can switch to guard the hypothetical big SF.

King is long, he’ll be ready if some hypothetical player has overpowered Snell, Brown, Morris, and Doumbouya.
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Re: 2019 Off-season Thread 

Post#980 » by Pharaoh » Tue Jul 9, 2019 9:35 am

Great wrote:
The_Irony wrote:
Great wrote:
Snell, Brown, Morris, Doumbouya, and King have enough size a quickness to handle all Small Forwards.



markeiff does not play small forward and Louis king looks like a high school senior out there. he's tiny and nervous.


Morris can switch to guard the hypothetical big SF.

King is long, he’ll be ready if some hypothetical player has overpowered Snell, Brown, Morris, and Doumbouya.
Of we've tried those 4 and failed King aint succeeding

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