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China splitting from NBA could have huge salary cap implications.
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:15 pm
by bstein14
NBA is losing a 1.5 billion dollar streaming contract with China and this could start impacting the salary cap as early as next year.
A cap drop could have a drastic impact on the free agency market as well as causing teams to scramble to get under a new much lower luxury tax level.
The value of cap space and being able to absorb salary could be worth more than ever even though the free agent market is very weak in 2020.
Re: China splitting from NBA could have huge salary cap implications.
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:45 pm
by zeebneeb
And nothing of value was lost.
I do not care about china, or their money, and especially their influence.
Re: China splitting from NBA could have huge salary cap implications.
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:26 pm
by GreekAlex
The biggest impact on the Pistons is related to Andre Drummond’s player option.
This all but guarantees he will opt in.
The market for his skill set was already limited, factor in the reduced salary cap and it’s a done deal.
He wouldn’t see anything close to the $28M figure annually.
Re: China splitting from NBA could have huge salary cap implications.
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:20 pm
by DetroitPistons
I would be aggressive and trade our expirings, which now will have significantly higher value, for a star player (obviously picks will need to be included). My prediction is China will calm down and fix things so lets capitalize on the fear around the league in the meantime.
Re: China splitting from NBA could have huge salary cap implications.
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:01 pm
by DetroitSho
DetroitPistons wrote:I would be aggressive and trade our expirings, which now will have significantly higher value, for a star player (obviously picks will need to be included). My prediction is China will calm down and fix things so lets capitalize on the fear around the league in the meantime.
If you're predicting this wouldn't it stand to reason that paid executives are as well?
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Re: China splitting from NBA could have huge salary cap implications.
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:23 pm
by DetroitPistons
DetroitSho wrote:DetroitPistons wrote:I would be aggressive and trade our expirings, which now will have significantly higher value, for a star player (obviously picks will need to be included). My prediction is China will calm down and fix things so lets capitalize on the fear around the league in the meantime.
If you're predicting this wouldn't it stand to reason that paid executives are as well?
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Not necessarily. I'm predicting it but I'm not exactly super confident. No one knows. But if it works and we get an awesome deal for our expirings and the cap stays the same or goes up that could be massive for our future. It's a gamble.
Re: China splitting from NBA could have huge salary cap implications.
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:55 pm
by Manocad
zeebneeb wrote:And nothing of value was lost.
I do not care about china, or their money, and especially their influence.
DItto.
I don’t think there will be any real impact because it drops across the board and everyone knows it. So players who are already maxed out can either stay on potentially middle of the road/crappy salary-strapped teams, or they rework their deals to bring in more talent and still keep total salary under the cap. Everyone obviously is greedy but they’re not stupid. $20 million a year with a shot at championship or $30 million a year and no shot? Not a tough choice if you already got plenty of millions in the bank.
Re: China splitting from NBA could have huge salary cap implications.
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:41 am
by basketballRob
Manocad wrote:zeebneeb wrote:And nothing of value was lost.
I do not care about china, or their money, and especially their influence.
DItto.
I don’t think there will be any real impact because it drops across the board and everyone knows it. So players who are already maxed out can either stay on potentially middle of the road/crappy salary-strapped teams, or they rework their deals to bring in more talent and still keep total salary under the cap. Everyone obviously is greedy but they’re not stupid. $20 million a year with a shot at championship or $30 million a year and no shot? Not a tough choice if you already got plenty of millions in the bank.
20 or 30 million, I think 99.9% take the 30. The .01% is one guy that doesn't make wise choices.
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Re: China splitting from NBA could have huge salary cap implications.
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:59 am
by Snakebites
This will calm down.
The NBA will be able to go back to profiting from it's financial relationship with China. However you feel about that. For the record, I feel negatively about it.
Re: China splitting from NBA could have huge salary cap implications.
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:07 pm
by Manocad
basketballRob wrote:Manocad wrote:zeebneeb wrote:And nothing of value was lost.
I do not care about china, or their money, and especially their influence.
DItto.
I don’t think there will be any real impact because it drops across the board and everyone knows it. So players who are already maxed out can either stay on potentially middle of the road/crappy salary-strapped teams, or they rework their deals to bring in more talent and still keep total salary under the cap. Everyone obviously is greedy but they’re not stupid. $20 million a year with a shot at championship or $30 million a year and no shot? Not a tough choice if you already got plenty of millions in the bank.
20 or 30 million, I think 99.9% take the 30. The .01% is one guy that doesn't make wise choices.
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If that were true you'd never see a pro athlete restructure his contract or take less money than he could have gotten in the market in order to bring more talent to the team. Which, as we all know, has happened MANY times in all the salary cap sports.
Re: China splitting from NBA could have huge salary cap implications.
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:58 pm
by edmunder_prc
This is how China works. I lived there 10+ years. They get angry, rile up the people and then move on.
All gov't like outside enemies when they can get them. Better than people being angry with their own gov't. So here China wins because there is a problem going on in HK but now Chinese people can look at the US, the NBA, etc and be angry and not focus on the real issue.
It will blow over because the Chinese LOVE basketball and all those games going on in China make everyone happy. Its also another way to not pay attention to whats going on in HK.
I would bet my house on it not being an issue going forward.
Re: China splitting from NBA could have huge salary cap implications.
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:48 pm
by BadMofoPimp
I hope things work out for Hong Kong and they do not loose all their freedoms to a hyper surveillance oppressive Chinese government that can imprison one for just liking a tweet. But, I bet Hong Kong does rely on many things China provides.
Those pulled in for questioning do not necessarily have the biggest presence on the social network. Pan Xidian, a 47-year-old construction company employee in Xiamen with about 4,000 followers, posted a comic by a dissident cartoonist known as Rebel Pepper, along with criticism of human-rights crackdowns. In November, the police called him in for 20 hours of questioning. After being forced to delete several tweets, he was allowed to go, and he thought his ordeal was over.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/10/business/china-twitter-censorship-online.htmlBut officers showed up at his workplace a short time later and threw him into a car. They asked him to sign a document that said he had disturbed the social order. He complied. Then they showed him a second document, which said he would be detained.
He spent the next two weeks in a cell with 10 other people, watching propaganda videos.“In this era, we certainly know fear, but I can’t control myself,” Mr. Pan said while crying during a phone interview after he was released. “We’ve been living a very suppressed life.”
“We’re like lambs,” he added. “They’re taking us one after another. We have no ability to fight back.”
Welcome to a socialist communist society . . .
Re: China splitting from NBA could have huge salary cap implications.
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:42 pm
by DBC10
Snakebites wrote:This will calm down.
The NBA will be able to go back to profiting from it's financial relationship with China. However you feel about that. For the record, I feel negatively about it.
Yep, reports coming in today that Tencent (the major supplier of NBA subscriptions) has already resumed preseason game viewing because, errr NBA is immensely popular and the Chinese want to watch. There's way too much money at stake for both the NBA and Tencent to lose if they don't uphold the status quo.
On the same token, the NBA put the clamps on real quick to all media outlets and all teams to not talk about China ever again. It would not surprise me if there was a backdoor deal that went on during the "outrage" of this.
We'll all have forgotten all about this by Thanksgiving. Which is a shame, since there's definitely some pro-democracy stakes being put to the test and real lives being affected besides making a sh-ton of money.