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Off to a very impressive start...

1st in rebounding by a huge (almost 4/game) margin
24th in points/game
20th in steals/game
7th in blocks/game
3rd among centers in assists/game (behind Jokic and Towns)
14th in PER

Good gracious. He's going to come down some with Blake back, I imagine, but give the man credit, he's been ferocious so far.

Not a max guy

I'd guess his next contract to be 25-30 per.

CJ McCollum got an extension that will pay him about 33 mil average over 3 years, keeping Dre for 30/per seems like a pipe dream to me, particularly considering just being the pistons requires us to pay a premium on guys.

If Dre is deemed by the league to have developed into a superstar worthy of a max/near max contract, he will not sign with the Pistons. He will be a star athlete with money so obviously he will not want to live in Detroit due to all the crime, poverty, abandoned houses, etc. What millionaire athlete would ever want to deal that? Living in a neighborhood of boarded up houses and getting mugged or even shot makes no sense if you make $30 million a year. And shoveling snow too. Who's got time for that when you're a millionaire?

Dre to the Knicks on a big deal makes some sense. He would love to be "the man" on a bad Knicks team and get the NYC spotlight. Knicks have struck out bad on FAs so they might view this as a win to get Dre on a 4 year $130 million deal.

too good and expensive to be the 3rd best player in a team ; not good enough to be a max player.

Fizdale's Knicks had the closest thing to Drummond with Deandre Jordan last year and they benched him.

Not feeling it at the moment, but of course, the Knicks only make stupid decisions on days that end in "y".

Manocad wrote:If Dre is deemed by the league to have developed into a superstar worthy of a max/near max contract, he will not sign with the Pistons. He will be a star athlete with money so obviously he will not want to live in Detroit due to all the crime, poverty, abandoned houses, etc. What millionaire athlete would ever want to deal that? Living in a neighborhood of boarded up houses and getting mugged or even shot makes no sense if you make $30 million a year. And shoveling snow too. Who's got time for that when you're a millionaire?

the level of pettiness here is hilarious.

jakebernat wrote:

Manocad wrote:If Dre is deemed by the league to have developed into a superstar worthy of a max/near max contract, he will not sign with the Pistons. He will be a star athlete with money so obviously he will not want to live in Detroit due to all the crime, poverty, abandoned houses, etc. What millionaire athlete would ever want to deal that? Living in a neighborhood of boarded up houses and getting mugged or even shot makes no sense if you make $30 million a year. And shoveling snow too. Who's got time for that when you're a millionaire?

the level of pettiness here is hilarious.

Are you surprised?

I don't agree that Dre can never be anything more than your 3rd best player in order to be a contender, I'd just say he can't be your best player and I don't think Blake can be your best player either. You'd be hard pressed to find more than a couple more impactful 2nd best players than Dre around the league, and most of those will be 1st options that ended up getting traded to another team (i.e. AD joining LeBron, Russ joining Harden, PG with the Clippers)

Sometimes I think Dre is made out to be a bit of a scapegoat for our team issues. We have glaring issues at the PG & SF positions, our starting SG/PF don't contribute defensively, and our bench depth is so rough we literally have Thon Maker getting minutes. Dre with his periodic motor issues over the years is just one of numerous issues this team has.

not a true piston and never will be.

MotownMadness wrote:

jakebernat wrote:

Manocad wrote:If Dre is deemed by the league to have developed into a superstar worthy of a max/near max contract, he will not sign with the Pistons. He will be a star athlete with money so obviously he will not want to live in Detroit due to all the crime, poverty, abandoned houses, etc. What millionaire athlete would ever want to deal that? Living in a neighborhood of boarded up houses and getting mugged or even shot makes no sense if you make $30 million a year. And shoveling snow too. Who's got time for that when you're a millionaire?

the level of pettiness here is hilarious.

Are you surprised?

Dudes a joke and has been allowed to troll this board for years just because he used to be a mod

How hard is it to find a new hobby? I've parted ways with numerous things that once gave me joy over the years. Would NEVER devote so much time and energy to something that doesn't fulfill me in any way.

Clown shi*

Yes, teams has 99 problems, Andre Drummond isn't one of them.

tmorgan wrote:Off to a very impressive start...

1st in rebounding by a huge (almost 4/game) margin
24th in points/game
20th in steals/game
7th in blocks/game
3rd among centers in assists/game (behind Jokic and Towns)
14th in PER

Good gracious. He's going to come down some with Blake back, I imagine, but give the man credit, he's been ferocious so far.

I gave you an and1 last night, and decided to wait until the afternoon to see some of the replies figuring they wouldn't be about his amazing play, and obvious impact when hes on the floor(his third foul in that one game doomed the team. Now that is impact)but be about other crap.

I was right.

Piston fans deserve more of a Willie Cauly Stein sort of center. One that truly deserves the heat.

Some people here get it. Andre has had his problems with motivation, as we all know, but when engaged his impact is unreal. He has also never been surrounded by a good team(emphasis on team)either and they expect him to make the team good enough to make the finals which is absurd. He has been twice an all-star, and made the all nba third team.

When you look at a player like Anthony Davis which has led his team to the playoffs exactly as many times as Drummond has, is routinely praised here, but what about his impact? A player that is in MVP discussion, but ended up escaping to the Lakers because the Pelicans front office is also a floundering mess.

Andre's play this year(SO FAR)has been terrific. He is an all time great rebounder, the best the Pistons have ever had(amazing considering the elite rebounders this team has had)and is now scoring over 20 a game(21.2 on 56.8% shooting!) Over 2 blocks, 1.5 steals, and 18rpg.

Those stats are absolutely insane. I'm not sure what Andre has to do, save for do it consistently to get any kind of respect from Piston fans.

I love the guy, when he plays hard. Hopefully he gets resigned, and the FO adds the pieces around him that he needs. I truly believe he can be the starting center on a championship team. I have my fingers crossed that by the deadline, a deal is made for a premiere PG, or SF or hopefully both somehow.

With all that said, keep it up Andre. Your the reason the team is even close to treading water right now(little help from Kennard as well)and don't stop doing what your doing when Blake returns.

Let's have some love for a guy who has come out of the gates on fire, and playing his ass off. We can all complain later IF he starts pouting, and getting lazy again. There's always time for that.


Now, I'm off to put together my new Snowblower as Michigan has once again turned into a frozen hellscape. (Cub Cadet. Better be good man my old craftsman one keeled over last year but that sucker worked great)

the best rebounder in an era of lots of missed shots when no one else is willing to crash the boards.

Manocad wrote:If Dre is deemed by the league to have developed into a superstar worthy of a max/near max contract, he will not sign with the Pistons. He will be a star athlete with money so obviously he will not want to live in Detroit due to all the crime, poverty, abandoned houses, etc. What millionaire athlete would ever want to deal that? Living in a neighborhood of boarded up houses and getting mugged or even shot makes no sense if you make $30 million a year. And shoveling snow too. Who's got time for that when you're a millionaire?

Bruh

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zeebneeb wrote:

tmorgan wrote:Off to a very impressive start...

1st in rebounding by a huge (almost 4/game) margin
24th in points/game
20th in steals/game
7th in blocks/game
3rd among centers in assists/game (behind Jokic and Towns)
14th in PER

Good gracious. He's going to come down some with Blake back, I imagine, but give the man credit, he's been ferocious so far.

I gave you an and1 last night, and decided to wait until the afternoon to see some of the replies figuring they wouldn't be about his amazing play, and obvious impact when hes on the floor(his third foul in that one game doomed the team. Now that is impact)but be about other crap.

I was right.

Piston fans deserve more of a Willie Cauly Stein sort of center. One that truly deserves the heat.

Some people here get it. Andre has had his problems with motivation, as we all know, but when engaged his impact is unreal. He has also never been surrounded by a good team(emphasis on team)either and they expect him to make the team good enough to make the finals which is absurd. He has been twice an all-star, and made the all nba third team.

When you look at a player like Anthony Davis which has led his team to the playoffs exactly as many times as Drummond has, is routinely praised here, but what about his impact? A player that is in MVP discussion, but ended up escaping to the Lakers because the Pelicans front office is also a floundering mess.

Andre's play this year(SO FAR)has been terrific. He is an all time great rebounder, the best the Pistons have ever had(amazing considering the elite rebounders this team has had)and is now scoring over 20 a game(21.2 on 56.8% shooting!) Over 2 blocks, 1.5 steals, and 18rpg.

Those stats are absolutely insane. I'm not sure what Andre has to do, save for do it consistently to get any kind of respect from Piston fans.

I love the guy, when he plays hard. Hopefully he gets resigned, and the FO adds the pieces around him that he needs. I truly believe he can be the starting center on a championship team. I have my fingers crossed that by the deadline, a deal is made for a premiere PG, or SF or hopefully both somehow.

With all that said, keep it up Andre. Your the reason the team is even close to treading water right now(little help from Kennard as well)and don't stop doing what your doing when Blake returns.

Let's have some love for a guy who has come out of the gates on fire, and playing his ass off. We can all complain later IF he starts pouting, and getting lazy again. There's always time for that.


Now, I'm off to put together my new Snowblower as Michigan has once again turned into a frozen hellscape. (Cub Cadet. Better be good man my old craftsman one keeled over last year but that sucker worked great)

Preach

Exit 9 wrote:

MotownMadness wrote:

jakebernat wrote:
the level of pettiness here is hilarious.

Are you surprised?

Dudes a joke and has been allowed to troll this board for years just because he used to be a mod

How hard is it to find a new hobby? I've parted ways with numerous things that once gave me joy over the years. Would NEVER devote so much time and energy to something that doesn't fulfill me in any way.

Clown shi*

Hey guys, it's ok. That guy's post was satire based on the "Drummond's Defense" thread and the idiotic comments that came outta there.

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zeebneeb wrote:

tmorgan wrote:Off to a very impressive start...

1st in rebounding by a huge (almost 4/game) margin
24th in points/game
20th in steals/game
7th in blocks/game
3rd among centers in assists/game (behind Jokic and Towns)
14th in PER

Good gracious. He's going to come down some with Blake back, I imagine, but give the man credit, he's been ferocious so far.

I gave you an and1 last night, and decided to wait until the afternoon to see some of the replies figuring they wouldn't be about his amazing play, and obvious impact when hes on the floor(his third foul in that one game doomed the team. Now that is impact)but be about other crap.

I was right.

Piston fans deserve more of a Willie Cauly Stein sort of center. One that truly deserves the heat.

Some people here get it. Andre has had his problems with motivation, as we all know, but when engaged his impact is unreal. He has also never been surrounded by a good team(emphasis on team)either and they expect him to make the team good enough to make the finals which is absurd. He has been twice an all-star, and made the all nba third team.

When you look at a player like Anthony Davis which has led his team to the playoffs exactly as many times as Drummond has, is routinely praised here, but what about his impact? A player that is in MVP discussion, but ended up escaping to the Lakers because the Pelicans front office is also a floundering mess.

Andre's play this year(SO FAR)has been terrific. He is an all time great rebounder, the best the Pistons have ever had(amazing considering the elite rebounders this team has had)and is now scoring over 20 a game(21.2 on 56.8% shooting!) Over 2 blocks, 1.5 steals, and 18rpg.

Those stats are absolutely insane. I'm not sure what Andre has to do, save for do it consistently to get any kind of respect from Piston fans.

I love the guy, when he plays hard. Hopefully he gets resigned, and the FO adds the pieces around him that he needs. I truly believe he can be the starting center on a championship team. I have my fingers crossed that by the deadline, a deal is made for a premiere PG, or SF or hopefully both somehow.

With all that said, keep it up Andre. Your the reason the team is even close to treading water right now(little help from Kennard as well)and don't stop doing what your doing when Blake returns.

Let's have some love for a guy who has come out of the gates on fire, and playing his ass off. We can all complain later IF he starts pouting, and getting lazy again. There's always time for that.


Now, I'm off to put together my new Snowblower as Michigan has once again turned into a frozen hellscape. (Cub Cadet. Better be good man my old craftsman one keeled over last year but that sucker worked great)

I agree with everything you said here. I'll quote this post to disagree with something you said in the "Drummond's Defense" thread (at least I believe it was you, I apologize if it wasn't).

It was said that if Dre plays/could have played at the top of his abilities over the years that this team would be a perennial 55-60 win team. And I staunchly disagree with that. But I think there's many who hold that line of thinking which is why he gets as much hate as he does. Dre is not good enough offensively or enough of an offensive focal point to be the reason any of the rosters he's been on is a 55-60 win squad.

The best team Dre has been on was the 2015-16 squad. Even if you dump the version of Andre from Game 1 of this season against Indiana on that team for 82 games, they don't get 55 wins. That team had the best PG play Dre has ever experienced, a really good defensive SG (good for the role), 2 interchangeable forwards who are the perfect fit today's game. But oh no, absolutely no bench. And from that point every year it was always at least one or 2 elements missing from the team. The next year the bench was better but the PG play sunk the team. The next couple years the bench got better but the PG play and the wing situation has been pathetic.

Now you got a primary star scoring threat to go next to him, another good shooter in Kennard who so far is providing the best SG play Dre has ever played with, some good PG play, and some decent wing shooting and defense, but none of these things have been on the court at the same time for a second this season.

People can bitch all they want about Dre and if he's overpaid or not. But paying Josh Smith over $5 million/year the last 5 seasons has been way more detrimental to the team than whatever amount people think he's overpaid.

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