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Re: Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:37 am
by treefi
Would love to somehow come away with:
PG - Tyrese Haliburton or PG - Killian Hayes
AND
C - Onyeka Okongwu

Re: Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:08 am
by tmorgan
DetroitSho wrote:
tmorgan wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:Just wondering, you're calling them clowns for WHAT reason?


Oh, I don't know, how about because their father is a ridiculous loudmouth master-of-ceremonies hype machine and his kids are his performers? It may not be their fault, but the end result is the same.

This is pretty stupid logic. Their dad's a clown so they're clowns? Would it have really been that hard to admit you misspoke based on your strong feelings against Lavar? With that logic I guess that makes me a truck driver since my dad is, despite the fact I've never been in an 18 wheeler.


Get a damn hobby. All the hyperbole on this site and this what you harp on? Stop wasting my time.

Re: Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:03 am
by Uncle Mxy
Drwho17 wrote:
Uncle Mxy wrote:
Drwho17 wrote:RIght, I think the play is Ball if he's available, I think he has the highest upside of the PG's in this class, plays a position of need out there.

Whoever drafts Ball will be bitching about his shooting for years, talking how he still has "upside" 5 years into his career.

His free throw percentage projects him to be a good shooter, his problem isn't that he is a terrible shooter, his problem is selection which can be worked out. I think even if he never turns into a great shooter, he will be able to be a good finisher once his body matures, and he really looks like he's going to be an elite level passer, so a tall pass-first PG I think would be good enough.

Even aside from his jumper, he's still a ways from being the next Ason Kidd or Raon Rondo.

Re: Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:51 pm
by Mr Peanut
I've been watching a bit of film and really coming around to Killian Hayes. He has holes in his game like any prospect sure, but at 18 years old he has a lot of time before he's a finished product. I think playing with Rose mentoring him next season could do wonders for him, And the French connection with Sekou should help both of them as they adapt to life in the US.

Re: Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:03 pm
by MotownMadness
The best part or safest part of the draft feels like almost late lottery to early 20s.

My Big Board at the moment

1. Anthony Edwards (inconsistent but shows his star upside when he does go off)
2. Lamelo Ball (still 6'7 with elite passing)
3. Isaac Okoro
4. Killian Hayes
5. Onyeka Okongwu
6. James Wiseman
7. RJ Hampton
8. Obi Toppin
9. Tyrese Haliburton
10. Saddiq Bey
11. Devin Vassell
12. Cole Anthony
13. Tyrese Maxey
14. Deni Avdija
15. Tyler Bey

Re: Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:02 am
by DetroitSho
Manocad wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:
tmorgan wrote:
Oh, I don't know, how about because their father is a ridiculous loudmouth master-of-ceremonies hype machine and his kids are his performers? It may not be their fault, but the end result is the same.

This is pretty stupid logic. Their dad's a clown so they're clowns? Would it have really been that hard to admit you misspoke based on your strong feelings against Lavar? With that logic I guess that makes me a truck driver since my dad is, despite the fact I've never been in an 18 wheeler.

Actually that's pretty strong logic when applied to the context of the offspring pursuing a similar career path as the parent.

Didn't know Lavar had an NBA career. Maybe he actually CAN beat Jordan. Cool story bro.

Re: Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:06 am
by DetroitSho
tmorgan wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:
tmorgan wrote:
Oh, I don't know, how about because their father is a ridiculous loudmouth master-of-ceremonies hype machine and his kids are his performers? It may not be their fault, but the end result is the same.

This is pretty stupid logic. Their dad's a clown so they're clowns? Would it have really been that hard to admit you misspoke based on your strong feelings against Lavar? With that logic I guess that makes me a truck driver since my dad is, despite the fact I've never been in an 18 wheeler.


Get a damn hobby. All the hyperbole on this site and this what you harp on? Stop wasting my time.

"Get a damn hobby", says the guy posting on the same site as me. Gotcha. TMorgan, meet mirror.

Re: Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:36 am
by Manocad
DetroitSho wrote:
Manocad wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:This is pretty stupid logic. Their dad's a clown so they're clowns? Would it have really been that hard to admit you misspoke based on your strong feelings against Lavar? With that logic I guess that makes me a truck driver since my dad is, despite the fact I've never been in an 18 wheeler.

Actually that's pretty strong logic when applied to the context of the offspring pursuing a similar career path as the parent.

Didn't know Lavar had an NBA career. Maybe he actually CAN beat Jordan. Cool story bro.

Lavar played basketball and football in high school and college and tried to make a career as a pro football player, but never made it past an NFL practice squad.

I don't know what your definition of "similar" is, but I'd call a career path of pro athlete in any sport as being similar to any other pro athlete in any other sport. It's not like Lavar is a plumber.

And regardless of the careers, to say that because Dad's a clown doesn't mean the kids are clowns is still a GENERALLY weak argument. The saying "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree" wasn't invented out of thin air, and the point of it--and this context--is CHARACTER, not specific job choice. The fact that the kids actually pursuing careers in pro sports lends more weight to the argument.

Re: Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:39 am
by DCintheD
I actually like Lavar a lot and think he’d be great for the city of Detroit. That said I just don’t believe in Lamelo and his game.

Re: Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:21 am
by DetroitSho
Manocad wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:
Manocad wrote:Actually that's pretty strong logic when applied to the context of the offspring pursuing a similar career path as the parent.

Didn't know Lavar had an NBA career. Maybe he actually CAN beat Jordan. Cool story bro.

Lavar played basketball and football in high school and college and tried to make a career as a pro football player, but never made it past an NFL practice squad.

I don't know what your definition of "similar" is, but I'd call a career path of pro athlete in any sport as being similar to any other pro athlete in any other sport. It's not like Lavar is a plumber.

And regardless of the careers, to say that because Dad's a clown doesn't mean the kids are clowns is still a GENERALLY weak argument. The saying "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree" wasn't invented out of thin air, and the point of it--and this context--is CHARACTER, not specific job choice. The fact that the kids actually pursuing careers in pro sports lends more weight to the argument.
Doubling down on a bulls**t argument, amazing. Ok fam.

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Re: Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:00 am
by Manocad
DetroitSho wrote:
Manocad wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:Didn't know Lavar had an NBA career. Maybe he actually CAN beat Jordan. Cool story bro.

Lavar played basketball and football in high school and college and tried to make a career as a pro football player, but never made it past an NFL practice squad.

I don't know what your definition of "similar" is, but I'd call a career path of pro athlete in any sport as being similar to any other pro athlete in any other sport. It's not like Lavar is a plumber.

And regardless of the careers, to say that because Dad's a clown doesn't mean the kids are clowns is still a GENERALLY weak argument. The saying "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree" wasn't invented out of thin air, and the point of it--and this context--is CHARACTER, not specific job choice. The fact that the kids actually pursuing careers in pro sports lends more weight to the argument.
Doubling down on a bulls**t argument, amazing. Ok fam.

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If you've got a hard-on for the success of the Ball family, have at it. Some of us don't want balls in our mouth.

Re: Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:12 pm
by DBC10
Uncle Mxy wrote:
Drwho17 wrote:
Uncle Mxy wrote:Whoever drafts Ball will be bitching about his shooting for years, talking how he still has "upside" 5 years into his career.

His free throw percentage projects him to be a good shooter, his problem isn't that he is a terrible shooter, his problem is selection which can be worked out. I think even if he never turns into a great shooter, he will be able to be a good finisher once his body matures, and he really looks like he's going to be an elite level passer, so a tall pass-first PG I think would be good enough.

Even aside from his jumper, he's still a ways from being the next Ason Kidd or Raon Rondo.


Even Lonzo is taking his sweet, sweet time to barely be a consistent starter in this league. Whoever drafts LaMelo is looking at 5 years into the future and even then, I'm not even sure the dividends are all that great. I guess if we do draft him, we can hype him up for 3 years and sell high?

This draft is meh.

Re: Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:57 am
by ducler
I don't see Hayes as a star PG in this league, but maybe a good backup like Lindsey Hunter once was.
He has to put on muscle and work on his right hand to make me wrong.

Re: Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:45 pm
by Uncle Mxy
ducler wrote:I don't see Hayes as a star PG in this league, but maybe a good backup like Lindsey Hunter once was.
He has to put on muscle and work on his right hand to make me wrong.

Lindsey started for us for several teal years (though Grant Hill was effectively the PG for much of that).

Re: Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:54 pm
by ducler
Uncle Mxy wrote:
ducler wrote:I don't see Hayes as a star PG in this league, but maybe a good backup like Lindsey Hunter once was.
He has to put on muscle and work on his right hand to make me wrong.

Lindsey started for us for several teal years (though Grant Hill was effectively the PG for much of that).

Yes, I wanted to say starter of a winning team: when Lindsey was starter, Pistons didn't pass a Playoff round.

Re: Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:58 pm
by Uncle Mxy
That's why I said "teal years", as distinct from really winning. ;)

Re: Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:35 pm
by bstein14
Crazy that the NBA draft lottery is scheduled 3 weeks from today still and we haven't officially canceled the regular season. Do you think they'll postpone the lottery? Seems like they would need to make a decision real soon.

Re: Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:36 pm
by Pharaoh
Think in the next week or so we'll be hearing a lot more about when, how and where the league will begin again.

Think the RS might be over though.

Maybe they some kind of play off for the West 8th seed and then just move into playoff mode

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Re: Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

Posted: Sat May 9, 2020 1:49 am
by youngWizzy
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Re: Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 2:51 pm
by a-French-Fan
If you want Sekou as your future franchise player, make a deal with Knicks for Ntilikina ^^

Ok Hayes would be a good pick, but I would see more Malédon to make Sekou an all-star in 2 or 3 years.