Would you trade #7 to Boston for #14, #26, and #30?

SAKURABA216 · Post #1 » by **SAKURABA216** » Tue Nov 3, 2020 8:30 pm

Word on the street is that Boston is willing to unload all 3 of their FRP to move up in the draft. Assuming Boston is willing, would you agree to send our #7 to them for their #14, #26, and #30?

This team is in the unenviable position of having no stars and desperately needing decent talent all around. If we keep #7 we could land a stud like Killian Hayes (who the Ringer has pegged as the #1 prospect in the draft), but if we trade for the 3 picks we could potentially land: #14 - Tyrell Terry/Precious Achiuwa/Tyrese Maxey/or Aaron Nesmith and 2 of Aleksej Pokusevski/Desmond Bane/ Jahmi'us Ramsey/or Jalen Ramsay.

Is Killian Hayes better than Tyrell Terry, Aleksej Pokusevski, and Desmond Bane? We could potentially rebuild our roster with young talent. It's a high risk/high reward type deal that could jump-start this rebuild.

chrbal · Post #2 » by **chrbal** » Tue Nov 3, 2020 8:44 pm

Should be 7 for 14, 26, and a 1st from Boston in 2021 or 2022.

Still prefer to take my chances at 7

Crymson · Post #3 » by **Crymson** » Tue Nov 3, 2020 8:45 pm

This has been brought up here before.

Anyway, my answer is no. There's no telling who will be available at #14, and #26 and #30 are not high-value picks. This team needs reliable talent, not a pick at the tail end of the lottery plus two shots at probable role players.

Billl · Post #4 » by **Billl** » Tue Nov 3, 2020 8:57 pm

Nope - quality over quantity.

bstein14 · Post #5 » by **bstein14** » Tue Nov 3, 2020 9:02 pm

I don't love it. I really do feel like there are 4 or 5 really solid tier 2 players in this draft after the first 2 guys. These guys are going to be decade long starters in this league a few might end up borderline all-stars. Once you drop down to #14 its much more of a crapshoot and you're way more likely to get a guy who is out of the league in a few years.

Lets grab one of these guys that at least looks like they should be a solid starter for us in Hayes or Haliburton. Either of these 6'5" PGs would be a solid backup for Rose in year one and likely able to compete for the starting spot in year two unless we land a good FA to fill that void.

BJK1 · Post #6 » by **BJK1** » Tue Nov 3, 2020 9:11 pm

I wouldn’t want the Pistons to pass on the potential talent available at 7 just to get late picks in this draft. I think if the Pistons are interested in getting a pick in the 20s, they might be able to buy one in this draft.

JohnReese · Post #7 » by **JohnReese** » Tue Nov 3, 2020 9:45 pm

Yes, I do not see big difference between 7th and 14th. I like Bolmaro and Poku a lot.

Kilo · Post #8 » by **Kilo** » Wed Nov 4, 2020 12:09 am

Nope get your guy at #7. 26 and 30 too late to drop back the seven spots in the lottery.
14th, 26th and 2021 Boston FRP I might consider.

Crymson · Post #9 » by **Crymson** » Wed Nov 4, 2020 12:53 am

Kilo wrote:Nope get your guy at #7. 26 and 30 too late to drop back the seven spots in the lottery.
14th, 26th and 2021 Boston FRP I might consider.

That's likely to be #14, #26 and ~#28.

JosephMamah · Post #10 » by **JosephMamah** » Wed Nov 4, 2020 2:04 am

If Hayes or Halli are still on the board I'd probably just take em and run. If both are gone, I wouldn't mind trading back to 14. Would probably still be able to get one of Lewis, Maxey, RJ or Saddiq. Then ideally try to use 26 and 30 to move up to 19 or 20 and maybe even be able to get 2 of those 4.

thesack12 · Post #11 » by **thesack12** » Wed Nov 4, 2020 3:07 am

This question can't fully be answered until we see how the board falls. That being the case neither team seriously considers this until pick #6 goes on the clock.

If Edwards/Ball/Hayes/Deni are all of the board, and Boston still wants to make this move I would do it without hesitation.

ByeByeDre · Post #12 » by **ByeByeDre** » Wed Nov 4, 2020 10:57 am

Every day and twice on Sunday

mattao313 · Post #13 » by **mattao313** » Wed Nov 4, 2020 11:27 am

Nah I think those late picks will be available for cheap from other teams.

ducler · Post #14 » by **ducler** » Wed Nov 4, 2020 11:42 am

As it's already been said, picks in the 20's will be for sale on Draft night, so it's basically #7 for #14...
The only way I consider this is if Toppin is the guy who slides at #7 with Hayes, Avdija, Ball, Okongwu, Wiseman and Edwards all gone before, otherwise no way we should consider that.

Pharaoh · Post #15 » by **Pharaoh** » Wed Nov 4, 2020 10:16 pm

ducler wrote:As it's already been said, picks in the 20's will be for sale on Draft night, so it's basically #7 for #14...
The only way I consider this is if Toppin is the guy who slides at #7 with Hayes, Avdija, Ball, Okongwu, Wiseman and Edwards all gone before, otherwise no way we should consider that.

In that case I take Okoro and lock him in the gym with a shooting coach instead of trading down.

I agree we should be able to acquire additional picks through other means.

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Post #16 » by **oldncreaky** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 12:04 am

Pharaoh wrote:
ducler wrote:As it's already been said, picks in the 20's will be for sale on Draft night, so it's basically #7 for #14...
The only way I consider this is if Toppin is the guy who slides at #7 with Hayes, Avdija, Ball, Okongwu, Wiseman and Edwards all gone before, otherwise no way we should consider that.
In that case I take Okoro and lock him in the gym with a shooting coach instead of trading down.

I agree we should be able to acquire additional picks through other means.

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The team needs picks, but I agree with Pharaoh's comment (bolded)

I think the best way to get extra picks is to take on salary; the downside of taking on salary means little to a team that isn't about to attract star FAs. Whether this is possible depends on the market, so it is probably too late for this year's draft.

The pandemic does change things, however. It's been hard to evaluate players because of cancelled events, fewer games, and no combines or invitationals. There's got to be a less certainty in every player evaluation, as well as how deep GMs think the draft is. 2020 might be a year to be humble about the ability to predict the future. So if (1) you think the draft is deep and (2) this trade is the best way to get more picks, this is a good trade.

edmunder_prc · Post #17 » by **edmunder_prc** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 12:46 am

Rose can get 26 or something similar.

Kennard for sure can get a 1st.

I think Tony Snell could honestly get the 30th pick. Someone needs a good backup SF who can play minutes, not make mistakes, shoot 100% from the line in big games, decent clip from 3pt line.

I mean this team gave away a late first round pick, just last year.

If thats what Weaver wants, you call every team in the league and talk about Rose, Kennard, Snell and plus cash. See who the sellers are and their terms. Have a board, stick to it, trade guys for anyone who falls.

Pharaoh · Post #18 » by **Pharaoh** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 1:37 am

Teams like Boston and Philly are most likely to want to shed some salary and they also happen to have a lot of picks that they probably don't want on their roster.

Both teams are "contenders" & should be looking to fix holes rather than develop kids.

We've seen numerous Boston ideas here. Now that Morey is in Philly I can imagine he's looking for shooting to balance the bull ball roster Brand built.

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thesack12 · Post #19 » by **thesack12** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 2:43 am

If Detroit makes this move, nothing says that they would be locked into #14/#26/#30. They can definitely look at making a secondary move.

Say maybe Kennard/#30 to Phoenix for #10. Which would leave Detroit with 10, 14, 26. I would actually be thrilled with this.

Another possibility is that as the draft moves on the cost to move up becomes cheaper. So Detroit could look to package #26/30 to move up somewhere into the teens.

Point is, if they do this move with Boston that doesn't mean they would have to be done. There are always options out there if you have hold tradeable commodities.

Pharaoh · Post #20 » by **Pharaoh** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 7:05 am

thesack12 wrote:If Detroit makes this move, nothing says that they would be locked into #14/#26/#30. They can definitely look at making a secondary move.

Say maybe Kennard/#30 to Phoenix for #10. Which would leave Detroit with 10, 14, 26. I would actually be thrilled with this.

Another possibility is that as the draft moves on the cost to move up becomes cheaper. So Detroit could look to package #26/30 to move up somewhere into the teens.

Point is, if they do this move with Boston that doesn't mean they would have to be done. There are always options out there if you have hold tradeable commodities.

As much as I'd love Weaver to use this Draft as his night out I don't think it happens.

Let's say we go with the Boston package.

14, 26 & 30

Then Luke for 21, 36 & 49 from Philly.

Package 26, 30 & 49 to ORL for 15

14, 15, 21, 36 are what we're left with.

According to Tankathon's Mock Draft we could walk away with:

14 = Pat Williams F
15 = R.J Hampton G/F
21 = Tyrell Terry PG
36 = Xavier Tillman C

Throw Sekou, Wood, Brown, Svi (Blake & DRose) around them and we're young and potentially loaded.

We'd lose a lot next season and land a top 5 pick

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