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How much are you ok with paying Wood before you are ok with just letting him walk?

I think the Pistons need to match (plus add a little because were the Pistons) and see if he wants to stay here. Within reason.

So if the Knicks are offering 12, we offer 13. If Charlotte is offering 13, we offer 14.

Ideally 3 yrs 36M with third year a player option. I think this is fair for both sides as Chris gets his "live happily after money" but not his "Baller Life" money until he proves himself more. This would be Wood betting on himself a bit as he could opt out after two years and be a UFA again at 27yrs old. I of course don't begrudge him if he chases the most money and years now as he's never got paid being UDFA and then passed around the league on minimum deals BUT I hope Detroit isn't the team who pays him like that. He has had immaturity/work ethic issues in the past and while he's made a lot of positive changes in this regard supposedly, giving somebody tens of millions of dollars guaranteed is recipe to see those old issues pop up again.

$12M a year is $2M more than the MLE, which I think should be enough to have him choose here over any MLE offer - especially with Detroit offering all the PT he could handle to earn his next contract.

If NYK or PHX offer him 60M over four years - congrats and good luck with your new team.

I could see a 4 year / $56 mm deal ($14 mm annual avg.). I’m guessing it would actually be a 3 year deal with a player option 4th year. Given the team’s available cap space, maybe front loaded for year 1-2 ($16 mm annually for those 2 years), making the last 2 years easily tradable if necessary.

I'd pay him 4yr @ 15m+/yr. I think we've seen enough sample size to believe that he can perform to that salary.
If Detroit is ascending within the next 2-3 years, he's the type of player who can help our team get to the next levels of competitiveness. Stretch bigs with good percentages and defensive abilities are highly sought after in the NBA today. And if we stink are striking out on our future draft and FA moves, we can trade him. I believe that if this year's FA market bore more teams with the cap to bid on him, his value would likely start at 15m. That, IMO, means that there are teams that would trade for him at that rate in the future. I think that it is a lot more likely that Wood continues his upward trajectory as opposed to imploding. Either way, he's already in our stable, and he is the type of player Detroit needs to pay for, whether he's here throughout his contract or traded at some point down the road.

TPA wrote:I'd pay him 4yr @ 15m+/yr. I think we've seen enough sample size to believe that he can perform to that salary.
If Detroit is ascending within the next 2-3 years, he's the type of player who can help our team get to the next levels of competitiveness. Stretch bigs with good percentages and defensive abilities are highly sought after in the NBA today. And if we stink are striking out on our future draft and FA moves, we can trade him. I believe that if this year's FA market bore more teams with the cap to bid on him, his value would likely start at 15m. That, IMO, means that there are teams that would trade for him at that rate in the future. I think that it is a lot more likely that Wood continues his upward trajectory as opposed to imploding. Either way, he's already in our stable, and he is the type of player Detroit needs to pay for, whether he's here throughout his contract or traded at some point down the road.

I'm all for resigning him.

I'd LIKE for him to take the smaller deal short term to sign larger later. So we can utilize our cap space better. But doubtful based on not making much up until now. Too big of a risk.

And if the above is no good, I'd like to pay him a higher first year salary and have it decline over the years. So if 4 years 60 for 15 average. Start at 17.5 15. 15. 12.5 or something to that effect.

3 or 4 years at 15per seems fair. While he was great last year, that is still a fairly small sample size. Its worth the risk at that price.

Agree with the prices stated in here and am all for front loading his deal so it's at it's lowest when Blake comes off the books.

IF we do it right it opens up even more money to add a decent free agent or 2.

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In theory we could do something that looks close to this as increasing or decreasing $ amounts per year can be 7.5% of the first year salary amount which would be $1.05 million per season decline if the starting salary was $14 million.

20-21 season: $14 million
21-22 season: $13 million
22-23 season: $12 million
23-24 season: $11 million
TOTAL 4 years $50 million

I think something like that is probably the best possible scenario we could sign him for. I don't think many teams will offer more but it really only takes one team to offer more and that is certainly possible.

Pay the man what it takes. This most likely isn't going to be a quick rebuilding process, might as well keep as much promising young talent around as the team can. Cap space isn't going to do much for the Pistons. It's not like they're going to get quality picks taking on other contracts for draft compensation.

If Wood had played for another team and put up the exact same numbers there's precisely a zero percent chance the Pistons would land him on the open market. If guys from the outside are going to be brought in do it with the bargain bin deals. Pay for the known quantity within the environment.

edmunder_prc wrote:I think the Pistons need to match (plus add a little because were the Pistons) and see if he wants to stay here. Within reason.

So if the Knicks are offering 12, we offer 13. If Charlotte is offering 13, we offer 14.

It's going to take more than $1M a year to outbid playing in New York at the Garden. This is Detroit, let's remember.

I think he walks.

I don't want us to throw a huge contract at him, but 15/yr is completely reasonable for a starter in the NBA. If he became an all-star or something, that would be a total bargain contract.

I don't know that we clearly know the market and contract for Wood. I took this as how aggressive we should be to retain Wood 1-4. I chose #3.

1 - Play hard ball; Offer something that is team friendly. Risk letting him go.

2 - Make him a fair offer; Mix of Team and Player friendly.

3 - Make him a generous offer; Leaning toward Player friendly

4 - Keep at all costs; Meet or exceed all offers

He’s gone, IMO.

There’s no indication Wood has any particular attachment to Detroit, that we’d have any “home team” advantage here.

We’d have to overpay to have a shot at keeping him. And that means we’d be overpaying a guy who doesn’t want to be here. That’s never a good idea.

I’ve made my peace with it. That’s been getting easier for years.

He had a fifteen game run with good stats at a time that no other big was around to get any. I voted #1 - let the Knicks throw $75 million at him, and move on.

PHX-OKC trade already officially made, and ate up all the Suns free agency cap space. One less potential bidder for Chris Wood.

Atlanta Hawks: $44.3 million

New York Knicks: $42.4 million

Detroit Pistons: $30 million

Miami Heat: $21.9 million - Waiting on Giannis free agency next off-season

Charlotte Hornets: $19.4 million

Phoenix Suns: $17.8 million - Paul makes like $12M more than outgoing salaries. PHX has like $5M in space remaining.

I’m guessing it comes down to the Pistons or Knicks or perhaps an unexpected team (Boston?) emerges as a sign & trade possibility.

To put the numbers in perspective if the Pistons gave Wood a deal starting at $15 million (likely meaning a deal that would be more than $60 million for 4 years) they would still be about $11 million away from the cap floor. That's assuming the team renounces the cap holds for Knight, Henson, Galloway, Maker, and McRae (which is probable all around). If the rest of the roster stays the same Detroit is at 10 players under contract, and then the 120% slot for the 7th pick is $5,307,120. So roughly $5.5 million away from the cap floor with 11 players on the books.

I know there's potentially a lot of moving by Weaver left to be done but as it stands I don't think the Pistons will hesitate to throw out some cash for Wood, preferably on a shorter deal. No team is getting him for the MLE which starts under $9.5 million so the only contenders are Atlanta, Charlotte, and New York.

As it stands the Hawks have Collins, Capela, and Dedmon so they're out unless anything changes with trades. Not sure the Hornets or Knicks are appealing options. Charlotte could be kind of interesting and I guess the Knicks are the Knicks but I'm not seeing a strong favorite for Wood that makes a ton of sense for him to be inclined towards. I'm doubting he has a real strong connection to Detroit at this point but I don't quite see it for the others either. I'm betting on him being back.

Well, I forgot about Miami. If they show any interesting in shelling out some cash he's gone. Otherwise I feel confident.

If the Hawks offered Dedmon and a 1st for Wood, I’d do that deal in a minute. Dedmon has two years left on his deal, which matches up with Griffin’s. Plus Dedmon’s probably not going to win you many games......