Re: Mason Plumlee 3/25
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:58 am
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I just...I think...I have no response to this.Phobo_Phile wrote:
Absolutely disgusting. Two thumbs down. What a goddamn joke of a franchise we are.
Snakebites wrote:DetroitDon15 wrote:Snakebites wrote:He is the only non rookie deal we’ll still have under contract after Blake is gone.
It’s a a signing that doesn’t make a lot of sense but let’s not go too nuts here.
My concern is that this type of move is a deal that is counter productive for taking teams. We drafted Stewart in round one, traded for Dedman (I don’t see any team wanting him so I think that we are stuck with him), and signed Okafor (I actually like that signing). Just isn’t making much sense.
I’m going out on a limb and assuming that while I disagree with Weaver on his judgement re: Plumlee that he’s not a total idiot.
He didn’t commit all of this money to a guy who plays the same position as a guy he drafted in round one AND a guy he just traded for. We’ve already heard reports Dedmon isn’t sticking around. I’m gonna assume that’s the case.
Cowology wrote:I just...I think...I have no response to this.Phobo_Phile wrote:
Absolutely disgusting. Two thumbs down. What a goddamn joke of a franchise we are.
DetroitDon15 wrote:Snakebites wrote:DetroitDon15 wrote:
My concern is that this type of move is a deal that is counter productive for taking teams. We drafted Stewart in round one, traded for Dedman (I don’t see any team wanting him so I think that we are stuck with him), and signed Okafor (I actually like that signing). Just isn’t making much sense.
I’m going out on a limb and assuming that while I disagree with Weaver on his judgement re: Plumlee that he’s not a total idiot.
He didn’t commit all of this money to a guy who plays the same position as a guy he drafted in round one AND a guy he just traded for. We’ve already heard reports Dedmon isn’t sticking around. I’m gonna assume that’s the case.
The problem for me is that who will want Dedman? I mean the Snell/Dedman deal made no sense. For me, we have Stewart and Okafor. Why do we need to invest so much in Plumlee? One year deal, maybe, but 3 guaranteed?
Snakebites wrote:DetroitDon15 wrote:Snakebites wrote:I’m going out on a limb and assuming that while I disagree with Weaver on his judgement re: Plumlee that he’s not a total idiot.
He didn’t commit all of this money to a guy who plays the same position as a guy he drafted in round one AND a guy he just traded for. We’ve already heard reports Dedmon isn’t sticking around. I’m gonna assume that’s the case.
The problem for me is that who will want Dedman? I mean the Snell/Dedman deal made no sense. For me, we have Stewart and Okafor. Why do we need to invest so much in Plumlee? One year deal, maybe, but 3 guaranteed?
Again- it’s been made clear Dedmon isn’t staying. Is it not fair to assume Weaver sees things we don’t?
He didn’t sign Plumlee and Okafor to be our 3rd and 4th centers.
Phobo_Phile wrote:
Absolutely disgusting. Two thumbs down. What a goddamn joke of a franchise we are.
DetroitDon15 wrote:Snakebites wrote:DetroitDon15 wrote:
The problem for me is that who will want Dedman? I mean the Snell/Dedman deal made no sense. For me, we have Stewart and Okafor. Why do we need to invest so much in Plumlee? One year deal, maybe, but 3 guaranteed?
Again- it’s been made clear Dedmon isn’t staying. Is it not fair to assume Weaver sees things we don’t?
He didn’t sign Plumlee and Okafor to be our 3rd and 4th centers.
I understand moving him but who or what would the return be? I just don’t see any trade out there for him without us attaching an asset to move him to get anything of value back.
Phobo_Phile wrote:
Absolutely disgusting. Two thumbs down. What a goddamn joke of a franchise we are.
MrBigShot wrote:The strangest thing about this is, who the hell was gonna pay Plumelee 8 mil per year for 3 years? Why outbid yourself?Phobo_Phile wrote:
Absolutely disgusting. Two thumbs down. What a goddamn joke of a franchise we are.
Ugh...doesn't seem like Wood was too keen on staying but I doubt he would have passed up on an additional 20+ mil over those 3 years, if this ends up being being what it takes for Houston to sign him. If true, in conjunction with Plumlee, I've lost a bit of faith in Weaver.
pistonpat wrote:MrBigShot wrote:The strangest thing about this is, who the hell was gonna pay Plumelee 8 mil per year for 3 years? Why outbid yourself?Phobo_Phile wrote:
Absolutely disgusting. Two thumbs down. What a goddamn joke of a franchise we are.
Ugh...doesn't seem like Wood was too keen on staying but I doubt he would have passed up on an additional 20+ mil over those 3 years, if this ends up being being what it takes for Houston to sign him. If true, in conjunction with Plumlee, I've lost a bit of faith in Weaver.
Weaver looking really bad with this fascination with centers in 2020 and let's his best young asset walk for the essentially the same price he paid a 30 year old center? Also taking a center at #16 in the draft was also confusing in this day in age. I appreciate the activity but it is starting to feel like a scatter shot and not a clear plan yet...
JD43320 wrote:You can get that with out $28 million per year for 3 years plus $5 million in dead over the next five. Plumee and Grant as players aren't really the issue. It's the money aspect that is a huge problem.