Best Cast Scenario...

SamFlow · Post #1 » by **SamFlow** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 5:36 pm

So with Blake healthy we were a low end playoff team. Still losing, but would have done better without the injuries that plagued him and the rest of the team. But what if everyone is injury free... Rose, Griffin, everyone and plays at least 90% of the games in a shortened season. Are we better position by position? What is the best case scenario.

Center - stat wise we probably take a blow. Dre got stats but really didn't move the needle much. Plumlee and Okafor... Almost a wash, but not by much as far as making the team better. That's how sad it was before with dre. Empty stats.

PF - Blake, Sekou, Stewart. So if blake is back, the position is looking good. Sekou looks to have bulked up and should be able to contribute. contribute is the word, giving blake a break and not falling apart.

SF - Grant, Sekou, Bey, Josh.... probably the best the position has looked in years. Actual small forward that can actually start on another team.

SG - Svi, Josh, Ellington. meh, about the same as it's been. But if the other positions play up, should make it much easier for success at the position.

PG - Hayes, Rose, Delon. Alot depends on this position. Limited Minutes Rose will be great. Can playing in the pros already bring Hayes upto speed and to success? Delon brings some talent and skills, albeit not much shooting from three.

What is the highest we can expect from this group. Can casey have the same effect that Doc Rivers had on his first depleted Orlando Magic team? Not to forget some of our competition has improved as well.

vege · Post #2 » by **vege** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 5:53 pm

Best case scenario is Gores sell the team, we get a good owner, he fire Weaver and hire a competent GM and we restart from there. Anything other than that is a disaster and another decade of suffering for us fans.

edmunder_prc · Post #3 » by **edmunder_prc** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 5:55 pm

If everyone is 100% all season the team is too good, even for the East.

Center - Drummond was fool's gold. Plumlee will be better in most games. Better passer, better defense, rebounding numbers will be down because he wont miss 5 tip ins a game to get those extra offensive rebounds.

PF - Healthy Blake is a very good player, especially if he hits 36%+ of his 3pointers like he did in 2018. If he can get that to 40%, watch out.

SF - Grant is two tiers above Snell.

SG - Who knows. Kennard was hurt, Galloway is a great guy but below league average.

PG - Rose needs to be a backup spark plus. Hayes as a true PG would be better than Knight, Bruce Brown, etc.

Team is improved everywhere.

Blake will need to be traded to a contender. Too bad the Bucks traded all their firsts.

Lets see how it plays out! Nuggets might want Blake.

Manocad · Post #4 » by **Manocad** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 6:59 pm

The best case scenario is that the Pistons lose a s**t ton of games.

Post #5 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 7:42 pm

Man, Vege.

It must be really really hard to maintain that ONE note in every single post for all of these years. Even I try to mix in some positivity from time to time, and not all of my negative posts have the exact same tone. You almost have to admire that.

Best case scenario? Who's the projected number one pick next year? Whoever it is- him.

440BB · Post #6 » by **440BB** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 7:45 pm

If the veterans stay healthy this group could end up with a winning record. Not what I was looking for, but it would likely mean a number of our free agent pickups and draft choices have played well. Perhaps that could play into swapping a success or two for a good pick in 2021.

foolinc · Post #7 » by **foolinc** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 7:49 pm

Best case scenario for the Pistons is:
- Team stays healthy
- Rose and Griffin have good to great statistical seasons before being traded to contending teams
- Young players show promise with Hayes making the All Rookie 1st team (if not winning rookie of the year)
- Pistons end up with a bottom five record and the lottery is kind.

potatoaim · Post #8 » by **potatoaim** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 7:50 pm

Assuming good health, this is the best roster this team has had since 2008. Its also the smartest in terms of bbiq since 2008.

Obviously that isnt saying much, but its still true.

Whatever happens, at least they will be interesting to watch.

NYPiston · Post #9 » by **NYPiston** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 8:39 pm

At first I was thinking that this team, IF Rose and Griffin were fully healthy for most of the season, would be competitive meaning a .500 team that could battle for the 8th seed but then I saw that first half schedule and realized that it would be a miracle if they weren't bottom 3 in the east at the halfway mark and be in sell mode at the deadline leading to more losses in the second half of the season.

Also, there are a lot of east teams that were down in the dumps last season (Charlotte, Washington, Atlanta) that improved drastically. It really does seem like a 3 way race between the Pistons, Knicks and Cavs for the east cellar with the Bulls being a cellar sleeper.

For me, best case scenario is that Griffin and Rose show well in the first half, the Pistons lose a bunch of competitive games then they collect assets for those two at the deadline if possible and we see strong young player development in the second half with many more competitive losses to follow and a bottom 3 draft lottery slot.

mattao313 · Post #10 » by **mattao313** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 8:42 pm

NYPiston wrote:At first I was thinking that this team, IF Rose and Griffin were fully healthy for most of the season, would be competitive meaning a .500 team that could battle for the 8th seed but then I saw that first half schedule and realized that it would be a miracle if they weren't bottom 3 in the east at the halfway mark and be in sell mode at the deadline leading to more losses in the second half of the season.

Also, there are a lot of east teams that were down in the dumps last season (Charlotte, Washington, Atlanta) that improved drastically. It really does seem like a 3 way race between the Pistons, Knicks and Cavs for the east cellar with the Bulls being a cellar sleeper.

Remember it's a play in tournament so if we're around the 8th seed we can still make the playoffs

zeebneeb · Post #11 » by **zeebneeb** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 9:08 pm

Best case scenario is this team loses a ton of close games resulting in a top 3 pick. The problem I have is that I firmly believe Hayes, now that he has the starting role, is going to show why I belive he was the best player in the draft, and make this team way better then it has any right to.

One more draft pick, and this team has a great foundation.

Here's to hoping they start super slow, and the losses pile up. I know that sounds terrible but next years draft is stupid deep, and having a top 3 pick combined with Hayes could set this team up for over a decade.

NYPiston · Post #12 » by **NYPiston** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 9:16 pm

zeebneeb wrote:Best case scenario is this team loses a ton of close games resulting in a top 3 pick. The problem I have is that I firmly believe Hayes, now that he has the starting role, is going to show why I belive he was the best player in the draft, and make this team way better then it has any right to.

One more draft pick, and this team has a great foundation.

Here's to hoping they start super slow, and the losses pile up. I know that sounds terrible but next years draft is stupid deep, and having a top 3 pick combined with Hayes could set this team up for over a decade.

In no way shape or form is Hayes proving to be the best player in the draft a problem. Regardless of this draft coming up (and tanking isn't rewarded anyway with the new lottery system), we should all root for the young players to be the best they can be even if it results in more wins.

In any event, it's going to be tough for the Pistons to pile up many wins with that 1st half schedule but of course that depends on load management (Pistons are a perfect load management opponent), Covid scratches etc. Who knows what any of these rosters will look like on any given day.

chrbal · Post #13 » by **chrbal** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 10:29 pm

1-Derrick and Blake draw trade interest.

2-the 5(?) rookies actually get a role to where they can adjust.

3- Jackson makes people forget Christian.

4- team is competitive but bad.

bstein14 · Post #14 » by **bstein14** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:15 am

The best case scenario is we win the championship with 3 rookie all-stars.

Manocad · Post #15 » by **Manocad** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:00 am

bstein14 wrote:The best case scenario is we win the championship with 3 rookie all-stars.

I disagree. Three rookie all-stars means there's no way the team will keep them all; they'll all want to go get paid ASAP. Barely winning the championship with no all-stars is better. Then they all want to stay together to win more.

Pharaoh · Post #16 » by **Pharaoh** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:34 am

vege wrote:Best case scenario is Gores sell the team, we get a good owner, he fire Weaver and hire a competent GM and we restart from there. Anything other than that is a disaster and another decade of suffering for us fans.

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SamFlow · Post #17 » by **SamFlow** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:18 am

Best case scenario is blake and rose play great and get traded for great amount of assests with us just missing the playoffs and then winning the lottery.

And then krush it and win a title the next year.

Pharaoh · Post #18 » by **Pharaoh** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:40 am

Best case scenario? Championship

Realistic best case scenario? Blake & Rose traded for whatever we can get closer to the deadline, kids get big minutes to develop and we land a top 5 pick in the 2021 Draft that looks loaded af!

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JohnReese · Post #19 » by **JohnReese** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:33 am

Blake Griffin cannot be traded for 3 reasons;
- His contract
- Any team that can deal with his huge contract is not a contender.
- Getting him does not turn any team into a contender

Best case scenario:
1. He helps the development of the young players and we buy him out in Feb 2022.
2. We trade him to a team that is looking for cap space in 2022 in exchange of picks or young players. That means that we lose our flexibility.

Drwho17 · Post #20 » by **Drwho17** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:20 pm

vege wrote:Best case scenario is Gores sell the team, we get a good owner, he fire Weaver and hire a competent GM and we restart from there. Anything other than that is a disaster and another decade of suffering for us fans.

I don't get your negativity, now that the dust has settled. Isn't this what we've been calling for the last decade. When you look at it, the Pistons have revamped their roster, gotten young players with upside, without selling out the future. To me it looks like Weaver has a three year plan to get to championship competitor. In basically a week he flipped the worst roster in the NBA, into one with a bunch of young players with upside, Hayes/Stewart/Bey/Doumbaya, not to mention taking chances on Jackson/Okafor breaking out. M

My only fear is that I think that this team could end up being too competive and screwing up their future draft positions, with Griffin/Rose/Grant they could win too much.