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A little surprised to see Philly include 2 firsts for Harden, but a pretty big upgrade over the nothing that Simmons was giving them.
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Embiid now only has Bassey as his backup, giving him an even bigger workload without Drummond. The Sixers need a backup center ASAP.
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Cowology wrote:A little surprised to see Philly include 2 firsts for Harden, but a pretty big upgrade over the nothing that Simmons was giving them.
It's an "all in" move, which to me feels appropriate given Embiid's play and short window, and how good the team was before adding Harden.
For the Nets it's a partial retreat. They recoup some of the draft capital they gave up to add Harden in the first place, and Simmons theorhetically fits their team (though who knows how he handles New York scrutiny...yikes). But it sure beats losing Harden in the offseason.
I view it as a risk for both sides, but a necessary one given the situations the teams were in.
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Given they already have Durant & Irving it's entirely possible Simmons is a better fit and they added a bit more depth with Curry & Drummond; both guys capable of being solid role players. Some of the value is delayed, but on the court I think they improved too.Snakebites wrote:Cowology wrote:A little surprised to see Philly include 2 firsts for Harden, but a pretty big upgrade over the nothing that Simmons was giving them.
It's an "all in" move, which to me feels appropriate given Embiid's play and short window, and how good the team was before adding Harden.
For the Nets it's a partial retreat. They recoup some of the draft capital they gave up to add Harden in the first place, and Simmons theorhetically fits their team (though who knows how he handles New York scrutiny...yikes). But it sure beats losing Harden in the offseason.
I view it as a risk for both sides, but a necessary one given the situations the teams were in.
Kinda weird to say, but this looks like a win for both teams. Of course Irving being part-time is still a MAJOR issue.
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Let's take a second to notice the audacity of Morey to be unrelenting and not trade Simmons for whatever value he could get. Morey had almost no leverage to start and somehow landed with Harden
That is impressive front office work
That is impressive front office work
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I really hope Portland trades Dame to a contender in the off-season.
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440BB wrote:Embiid now only has Bassey as his backup, giving him an even bigger workload without Drummond. The Sixers need a backup center ASAP.
They’ll be able to pick up Kanter or someone similar.
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Cowology wrote:I really hope Portland trades Dame to a contender in the off-season.
I was hoping he would go to Philly before the harden trade.
It looks like Portland will try to sign some FAs and run with dame again. Can’t see that working out though
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It was pretty funny watching Harden get drafted last for the All-Star game. LeBron trying to keep a straight face was great. It's no secret I dislike the guy, but from an entertainment perspective at least he has some personality. KD was boring as hell. He looked like he did not want to be there at all.
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DBC10 wrote:Let's take a second to notice the audacity of Morey to be unrelenting and not trade Simmons for whatever value he could get. Morey had almost no leverage to start and somehow landed with Harden
That is impressive front office work
Can't tell if sarcasm...
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Liqourish wrote:DBC10 wrote:Let's take a second to notice the audacity of Morey to be unrelenting and not trade Simmons for whatever value he could get. Morey had almost no leverage to start and somehow landed with Harden
That is impressive front office work
Can't tell if sarcasm...
It's not. I'm referencing all the pundits and even FO execs saying that he needed to take the Buddy/Barnes package from Sac or the Murray/Poeltl package from SAN, or even the Sabonis Simmons swap. The prevailing theme was, don't waste Embiid's prime and just get 80 cents on the dollar over a distressed asset in Simmons
He had little to no leverage at all both in Ben being a petty diva of refusing to play because he felt bad which has never happened before and his contract being massive as it is
If you're Morey, you're taking a victory lap because you turned Simmons into Harden
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DBC10 wrote:Liqourish wrote:DBC10 wrote:Let's take a second to notice the audacity of Morey to be unrelenting and not trade Simmons for whatever value he could get. Morey had almost no leverage to start and somehow landed with Harden
That is impressive front office work
Can't tell if sarcasm...
It's not. I'm referencing all the pundits and even FO execs saying that he needed to take the Buddy/Barnes package from Sac or the Murray/Poeltl package from SAN, or even the Sabonis Simmons swap. The prevailing theme was, don't waste Embiid's prime and just get 80 cents on the dollar over a distressed asset in Simmons
He had little to no leverage at all both in Ben being a petty diva of refusing to play because he felt bad which has never happened before and his contract being massive as it is
If you're Morey, you're taking a victory lap because you turned Simmons into Harden
Ahh, you think this was a victory. Got it. I disagree, but I understand.
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Toronto traded their 2022 1st to SAS for Thad Young and a 2nd.
But I'm a bad man for offering even better for that Tor 1st in T&T Board.
Thad is not a good player anymore.
But I'm a bad man for offering even better for that Tor 1st in T&T Board.
Thad is not a good player anymore.
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That's absolute comedy goldCowology wrote:It was pretty funny watching Harden get drafted last for the All-Star game. LeBron trying to keep a straight face was great. It's no secret I dislike the guy, but from an entertainment perspective at least he has some personality. KD was boring as hell. He looked like he did not want to be there at all.
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I would have traded Grant for Toronto's 1st and a future 2nd and the expiring contract of Dragic. I know Casey wouldn't have been happy to give up Grant to the franchise he hates, but overall that would have been a good trade to get assets to move forward with the rebuild. Plus the extra $20 million in cap space would have been huge for us. They may not have wanted Grant because he doesn't fit with Pascal and Barnes as well because someone needs to come off the bench out of that group and Grant wouldn't have been happy being that guy... but Grant would have been a better player than Thad for sure.
Thad is 33 years old its kind of crazy a young up and coming team like Toronto gave away a first round pick for him.
Thad is 33 years old its kind of crazy a young up and coming team like Toronto gave away a first round pick for him.
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Might be a case where both organisations did a favour to respected vetsbstein14 wrote:I would have traded Grant for Toronto's 1st and a future 2nd and the expiring contract of Dragic. I know Casey wouldn't have been happy to give up Grant to the franchise he hates, but overall that would have been a good trade to get assets to move forward with the rebuild. Plus the extra $20 million in cap space would have been huge for us. They may not have wanted Grant because he doesn't fit with Pascal and Barnes as well because someone needs to come off the bench out of that group and Grant wouldn't have been happy being that guy... but Grant would have been a better player than Thad for sure.
Thad is 33 years old its kind of crazy a young up and coming team like Toronto gave away a first round pick for him.
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Okay, I’m coming around to the idea that trading Hali was a huge mistake.
And no, not simply because of a couple of games.
Not sure Sabonis (even if he plays well) even gets that Sacto team to the play-in.
Coup trade for Indiana.
And no, not simply because of a couple of games.
Not sure Sabonis (even if he plays well) even gets that Sacto team to the play-in.
Coup trade for Indiana.
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Snakebites wrote:Okay, I’m coming around to the idea that trading Hali was a huge mistake.
And no, not simply because of a couple of games.
Not sure Sabonis (even if he plays well) even gets that Sacto team to the play-in.
Coup trade for Indiana.
It's the Kings, huge mistake is part for the course for that ownership group
Besides my bias for Hali since he was my top choice instead of Hayes, it really is looking like a mistake. Hali is putting up star level numbers already. 22 pts, 16 assists with good defense and offense is pretty eye-popping without even a training camp and chemistry be damned
Might be one of those trades where Hali needed to go elsewhere to shine even more ala James Harden trade from OKC
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Snakebites wrote:Okay, I’m coming around to the idea that trading Hali was a huge mistake.
And no, not simply because of a couple of games.
Not sure Sabonis (even if he plays well) even gets that Sacto team to the play-in.
Coup trade for Indiana.
I pretty much assume the kings really have no idea what they are doing. This deadline last season was odd at best. Plus two seconds and Joseph to get wright. Only to trade him the following season.
They are like the 3rd worst in the west and they traded an upcoming young guard to make a splash move to get into the play in tournament? It makes no sense.
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