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Post#21 » by Moses ShamMoses » Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:15 pm

vege wrote:Buy him out so he can join whatever team he'd like. There is absolutely no realistic trade.


I'd totally buy him out if he would waive his player option for next year. Otherwise, I think we hold on and hope he looks better at the trade deadline. The more time that passes the more palatable his contract becomes assuming he doesn't regress. At the trade deadline, he will only have 1.25 seasons left on his deal.
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Post#22 » by 440BB » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:29 pm

I don't get the sense that Blake is itching to get to a contender enough to sacrifice these paydays. He may just be a good team first guy or he may realize his knees won't let him play much longer. I wonder if the Pistons have insurance for the possibility the next injury is the last straw.
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Re: Come up with a Blake trade! 

Post#23 » by vege » Fri Jan 1, 2021 12:03 am

Moses ShamMoses wrote:
vege wrote:Buy him out so he can join whatever team he'd like. There is absolutely no realistic trade.


I'd totally buy him out if he would waive his player option for next year. Otherwise, I think we hold on and hope he looks better at the trade deadline. The more time that passes the more palatable his contract becomes assuming he doesn't regress. At the trade deadline, he will only have 1.25 seasons left on his deal.


He is not leaving all that money on the table.
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Post#24 » by DCintheD » Sun Jan 3, 2021 4:35 pm

Would Charlotte consider trading Rozier and Zeller for Blake?
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Post#25 » by ByeByeDre » Sun Jan 3, 2021 4:51 pm

DCintheD wrote:Would Charlotte consider trading Rozier and Zeller for Blake?


Not with Blake’s player option looming.... maybe next year
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Re: Come up with a Blake trade! 

Post#26 » by DCintheD » Sun Jan 3, 2021 4:56 pm

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DCintheD wrote:Would Charlotte consider trading Rozier and Zeller for Blake?


Not with Blake’s player option looming.... maybe next year

I'd respect the **** out of him if he miraculously turns it down for the good of this franchise. At the same time I won’t hold it against him once he inevitably exercises it. That’s a **** of free money
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Post#27 » by ByeByeDre » Sun Jan 3, 2021 5:10 pm

DCintheD wrote:
ByeByeDre wrote:
DCintheD wrote:Would Charlotte consider trading Rozier and Zeller for Blake?


Not with Blake’s player option looming.... maybe next year

I'd respect the **** out of him if he miraculously turns it down for the good of this franchise. At the same time I won’t hold it against him once he inevitably exercises it. That’s a **** of free money


Totally agreed. The Pistons could help prop his stats up so maybe someone offers him a three year deal that makes it worth it to opt out. Two problems though - $39 million is a huge nut to crack, and the Pistons would be propping up his stats at the expense of giving their youth more minutes. Which takes me back to my original thought regarding the Pistons - Weaver is nuts.
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Re: Come up with a Blake trade! 

Post#28 » by DCintheD » Sun Jan 3, 2021 5:43 pm

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DCintheD wrote:
ByeByeDre wrote:
Not with Blake’s player option looming.... maybe next year

I'd respect the **** out of him if he miraculously turns it down for the good of this franchise. At the same time I won’t hold it against him once he inevitably exercises it. That’s a **** of free money


Totally agreed. The Pistons could help prop his stats up so maybe someone offers him a three year deal that makes it worth it to opt out. Two problems though - $39 million is a huge nut to crack, and the Pistons would be propping up his stats at the expense of giving their youth more minutes.

Knicks have cap space this summer :pray:
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Post#29 » by ComboGuardCity » Sun Jan 3, 2021 6:38 pm

Blake And Rose for Bagley, Joseph, and Barnes
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Post#30 » by ByeByeDre » Sun Jan 3, 2021 7:50 pm

ComboGuardCity wrote:Blake And Rose for Bagley, Joseph, and Barnes


Sacramento’s pretty dumb, but I’m not sure they are that dumb. Maybe we could throw Hayes in and get Halliburton too? :D
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Post#31 » by BJK1 » Mon Jan 4, 2021 1:56 am

It’s obvious to everyone. But still, ouch:

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Post#32 » by Han Solo » Mon Jan 4, 2021 2:52 am

I think Blake would do well with Portland. Just don’t know how we could get him there
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Post#33 » by Manocad » Mon Jan 4, 2021 2:54 am

As every game goes by it looks like two things become more and more certain--no one is trading for Blake meaning there is no way in hell he opts out. Accept that he's stuck here until he has value as an expiring contract next year. And given what he's earned in his career my guess is that if his capabilities continue to erode he's only going to get offered a role he won't want, and he'll just retire.
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Post#34 » by ByeByeDre » Mon Jan 4, 2021 3:21 am

BJK1 wrote:It’s obvious to everyone. But still, ouch:

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Hopefully Smart bagging on him is another nail in the coffin.

Maybe Blake finds love in SoCal - someone making more than him? Seems like he’s trying.....
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Post#35 » by Clav » Mon Jan 4, 2021 4:07 am

https://tradenba.com/trades/frqBIOLZK


OKC in -
Blake Griffin (36/5M/2yr)
Draft pick ?


DET in -
George Hill (9.5/2yr)
Trevor Ariza (12.8M/1yr)
Darius Miirer (7M/1yr)


probably have to attach draft compensation though. Weaver and Presti are buddies / OKC-born Griffin goes home for two-years pay-day/swan song.

DET cleans out bad contract for tradeable assets / mentor to Hayes. Though I'm not sure if either team would do it...



Possible 3-team deal to maybe add more positive wing players ?

https://tradenba.com/trades/blhd_BuQs


OKC in
Blake Griffin (36/5M/2yr)
Kyle Anderson (9.5M/2yr)
picks

DET in
George Hill (9.5/2yr)
Kenrich Williams (3M/3yr)
Justice Winslow (13M/2yr)

MEM in
Trevor Ariza (12.8M/1yr)
Darius Miller (7M/1yr)
Justin Jackson (5M/1yr)
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Re: Come up with a Blake trade! 

Post#36 » by joeposh » Mon Jan 4, 2021 4:12 am

Manocad wrote:As every game goes by it looks like two things become more and more certain--no one is trading for Blake meaning there is no way in hell he opts out. Accept that he's stuck here until he has value as an expiring contract next year. And given what he's earned in his career my guess is that if his capabilities continue to erode he's only going to get offered a role he won't want, and he'll just retire.


This is where I'm at too. We might get something of value for Rose this year, but we're probably riding things out with Blake. That's not necessarily a bad thing as his contract aligns nicely with our projected rebuild should the tank go to plan this year, but I can't see a sane team taking on his contract without wanting to give another toxic contract back, likely with more years on it. So we likely keep him through next season. This was always the worry with taking on his deal.

Beyond that, Blake doesn't need basketball at this point. He has enough connections to other industries that he can probably go try his hand at acting and other fields, so I doubt he'll be grinding it out long after his time in Detroit unless there's a clear shot at a ring.
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Re: Come up with a Blake trade! 

Post#37 » by vege » Mon Jan 4, 2021 8:49 am

Clav wrote:https://tradenba.com/trades/frqBIOLZK


OKC in -
Blake Griffin (36/5M/2yr)
Draft pick ?


DET in -
George Hill (9.5/2yr)
Trevor Ariza (12.8M/1yr)
Darius Miirer (7M/1yr)


probably have to attach draft compensation though. Weaver and Presti are buddies / OKC-born Griffin goes home for two-years pay-day/swan song.

DET cleans out bad contract for tradeable assets / mentor to Hayes. Though I'm not sure if either team would do it...



Possible 3-team deal to maybe add more positive wing players ?

https://tradenba.com/trades/blhd_BuQs


OKC in
Blake Griffin (36/5M/2yr)
Kyle Anderson (9.5M/2yr)
picks

DET in
George Hill (9.5/2yr)
Kenrich Williams (3M/3yr)
Justice Winslow (13M/2yr)

MEM in
Trevor Ariza (12.8M/1yr)
Darius Miller (7M/1yr)
Justin Jackson (5M/1yr)


Rebuinding teams don't give up young talent or picks to dump players in 2 years contracts dude.
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Re: Come up with a Blake trade! 

Post#38 » by davidvolumes » Mon Jan 4, 2021 9:22 am

If Troy Weaver can trade Blake Griffin and that contract at this stage of his career without giving up a number one unprotected pick he should be named General manager of the century
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Re: Come up with a Blake trade! 

Post#39 » by DCintheD » Mon Jan 4, 2021 1:31 pm

Watching him play was brutal yesterday. At this point it’s best to shut him down until a buyout can be agreed upon - which probably won’t be until at least one year from now. No need to trade him if we’re giving up assets or taking on additional years of salary. The goal is the find a way for him not to interfere in the youth development.
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Re: Come up with a Blake trade! 

Post#40 » by Moses ShamMoses » Mon Jan 4, 2021 1:43 pm

DCintheD wrote:Watching him play was brutal yesterday. At this point it’s best to shut him down until a buyout can be agreed upon - which probably won’t be until at least one year from now. No need to trade him if we’re giving up assets or taking on additional years of salary. The goal is the find a way for him not to interfere in the youth development.


I think we need to be patient and hope he turns things around. Blake has numerous factors working against him like the condensed camp, shorter preseason, coming off injury, etc. Even Derrick Rose looks pretty bad right now and he admitted the short camp/preseason has caused him some issues getting into game shape. I guess I don't want to count out Blake after a handful of games since he looks healthy just tentative and slower. Maybe he is just pacing himself and will ramp up soon?

I understand he is taking minutes from our other guys but we really need to be a little more patient and see how this plays out. If we are both patient and lucky we might find ourselves able to trade him at the deadline for expiring deals.
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