Hypothetical DRose Trades

[Pharaoh]

Weaver will cop it from some on here regardless of what he does but you're right in that asking for a lotto to mid first for DRose falls on Ed.

Until the season is over we won't know where the Charlotte 2nd will be (I believe right now it's top 45?)

Should of moved him last season his value was higher. Pistons wanted a lotto pick. Standard Pistons move hold when high sell when low.

At least we're actually getting some semblance of value back although one can argue it's moot in the grand scheme of things since it's a 2nd

Whereas in the past, we let a combo of KCP, Monroe, SJ, Ellington, etc all for nothing. And two of those took the QO because they didn't want to stay here or had no confidence in a deal

Yeah I mean this is what hes worth now. Rose has declined this season big time from the past two. He was in the middle of two very good seasons before this and on a nice contract.

I just posted this somewhere else but Ed is who messed up last season. Asking for a lotto pick. Telling interested teams hes not trading him. Don't blame Weaver blame Ed for not moving him last season.

He wanted a lotto pick for him. As reported by Shams https://sports.yahoo.com/report-pistons-seeking-lottery-pick-215001960.html

"Shams Charania of The Athletic:

The Pistons are open to discussing deals for Derrick Rose, with an asking price of a lottery-level first-round pick, according to sources."

"No, there’s no chance," said Brian Windhorst on The Hoop Collective Podcast in reply to a question on whether the Pistons might negotiate a buyout with Rose. "He’s under contract for next year at a good number. From what I understand, when the Lakers called the Pistons and expressed an interest in trading for Derrick Rose, the Pistons said ‘hey, we appreciate you calling, but we’re not trading him. Dwane Casey likes him. We think he’s going to be important for us next year.’ He just wasn’t available."

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/257315/Pistons-Wont-Buyout-Derrick-Rose-After-Rebuffing-Trade-Inquiries

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[DetroitSho]

Weaver will cop it from some on here regardless of what he does but you're right in that asking for a lotto to mid first for DRose falls on Ed.

Until the season is over we won't know where the Charlotte 2nd will be (I believe right now it's top 45?)

At least we're actually getting some semblance of value back although one can argue it's moot in the grand scheme of things since it's a 2nd

Whereas in the past, we let a combo of KCP, Monroe, SJ, Ellington, etc all for nothing. And two of those took the QO because they didn't want to stay here or had no confidence in a deal

Yeah I mean this is what hes worth now. Rose has declined this season big time from the past two. He was in the middle of two very good seasons before this and on a nice contract.

I just posted this somewhere else but Ed is who messed up last season. Asking for a lotto pick. Telling interested teams hes not trading him. Don't blame Weaver blame Ed for not moving him last season.

He wanted a lotto pick for him. As reported by Shams https://sports.yahoo.com/report-pistons-seeking-lottery-pick-215001960.html

"Shams Charania of The Athletic:

The Pistons are open to discussing deals for Derrick Rose, with an asking price of a lottery-level first-round pick, according to sources."

"No, there’s no chance," said Brian Windhorst on The Hoop Collective Podcast in reply to a question on whether the Pistons might negotiate a buyout with Rose. "He’s under contract for next year at a good number. From what I understand, when the Lakers called the Pistons and expressed an interest in trading for Derrick Rose, the Pistons said ‘hey, we appreciate you calling, but we’re not trading him. Dwane Casey likes him. We think he’s going to be important for us next year.’ He just wasn’t available."

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/257315/Pistons-Wont-Buyout-Derrick-Rose-After-Rebuffing-Trade-Inquiries

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I think that's part of Weaver's motivation, it's 45 TODAY. But are we confident that Charlotte will be in the playoffs? They could slide further and further and that pick could end up in the 30s.

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[Pharaoh]

Let's be honest: the Hornets have exceeded expectations thus far.

If they do slide we benefit but then the narrative will be that Weaver got lucky.

Weaver will cop it from some on here regardless of what he does but you're right in that asking for a lotto to mid first for DRose falls on Ed.

Until the season is over we won't know where the Charlotte 2nd will be (I believe right now it's top 45?)

Yeah I mean this is what hes worth now. Rose has declined this season big time from the past two. He was in the middle of two very good seasons before this and on a nice contract.

I just posted this somewhere else but Ed is who messed up last season. Asking for a lotto pick. Telling interested teams hes not trading him. Don't blame Weaver blame Ed for not moving him last season.

He wanted a lotto pick for him. As reported by Shams https://sports.yahoo.com/report-pistons-seeking-lottery-pick-215001960.html

"Shams Charania of The Athletic:

The Pistons are open to discussing deals for Derrick Rose, with an asking price of a lottery-level first-round pick, according to sources."

"No, there’s no chance," said Brian Windhorst on The Hoop Collective Podcast in reply to a question on whether the Pistons might negotiate a buyout with Rose. "He’s under contract for next year at a good number. From what I understand, when the Lakers called the Pistons and expressed an interest in trading for Derrick Rose, the Pistons said ‘hey, we appreciate you calling, but we’re not trading him. Dwane Casey likes him. We think he’s going to be important for us next year.’ He just wasn’t available."

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/257315/Pistons-Wont-Buyout-Derrick-Rose-After-Rebuffing-Trade-Inquiries

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I think that's part of Weaver's motivation, it's 45 TODAY. But are we confident that Charlotte will be in the playoffs? They could slide further and further and that pick could end up in the 30s.

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[pistonsbball]

Should of moved him last season his value was higher. Pistons wanted a lotto pick. Standard Pistons move hold when high sell when low.

At least we're actually getting some semblance of value back although one can argue it's moot in the grand scheme of things since it's a 2nd

Whereas in the past, we let a combo of KCP, Monroe, SJ, Ellington, etc all for nothing. And two of those took the QO because they didn't want to stay here or had no confidence in a deal

Yeah I mean this is what hes worth now. Rose has declined this season big time from the past two. He was in the middle of two very good seasons before this and on a nice contract.

I just posted this somewhere else but Ed is who messed up last season. Asking for a lotto pick. Telling interested teams hes not trading him. Don't blame Weaver blame Ed for not moving him last season.

He wanted a lotto pick for him. As reported by Shams https://sports.yahoo.com/report-pistons-seeking-lottery-pick-215001960.html

"Shams Charania of The Athletic:

The Pistons are open to discussing deals for Derrick Rose, with an asking price of a lottery-level first-round pick, according to sources."

"No, there’s no chance," said Brian Windhorst on The Hoop Collective Podcast in reply to a question on whether the Pistons might negotiate a buyout with Rose. "He’s under contract for next year at a good number. From what I understand, when the Lakers called the Pistons and expressed an interest in trading for Derrick Rose, the Pistons said ‘hey, we appreciate you calling, but we’re not trading him. Dwane Casey likes him. We think he’s going to be important for us next year.’ He just wasn’t available."

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/257315/Pistons-Wont-Buyout-Derrick-Rose-After-Rebuffing-Trade-Inquiries

Funny thing is if we did this deal with the Lakers last season we possibly could've got THT thrown in as an afterthought. His salary number would've been required as an add-on to make a lot of the deals work.

[Pharaoh]

That wasn't the reported deal though

At least we're actually getting some semblance of value back although one can argue it's moot in the grand scheme of things since it's a 2nd

Whereas in the past, we let a combo of KCP, Monroe, SJ, Ellington, etc all for nothing. And two of those took the QO because they didn't want to stay here or had no confidence in a deal

Yeah I mean this is what hes worth now. Rose has declined this season big time from the past two. He was in the middle of two very good seasons before this and on a nice contract.

I just posted this somewhere else but Ed is who messed up last season. Asking for a lotto pick. Telling interested teams hes not trading him. Don't blame Weaver blame Ed for not moving him last season.

He wanted a lotto pick for him. As reported by Shams https://sports.yahoo.com/report-pistons-seeking-lottery-pick-215001960.html

"Shams Charania of The Athletic:

The Pistons are open to discussing deals for Derrick Rose, with an asking price of a lottery-level first-round pick, according to sources."

"No, there’s no chance," said Brian Windhorst on The Hoop Collective Podcast in reply to a question on whether the Pistons might negotiate a buyout with Rose. "He’s under contract for next year at a good number. From what I understand, when the Lakers called the Pistons and expressed an interest in trading for Derrick Rose, the Pistons said ‘hey, we appreciate you calling, but we’re not trading him. Dwane Casey likes him. We think he’s going to be important for us next year.’ He just wasn’t available."

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/257315/Pistons-Wont-Buyout-Derrick-Rose-After-Rebuffing-Trade-Inquiries

Funny thing is if we did this deal with the Lakers last season we possibly could've got THT thrown in as an afterthought. His salary number would've been required as an add-on to make a lot of the deals work.

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[dVs33]

I wasn’t expecting much of a return from rose, so I don’t mind the deal.
Give smith a chance to prove his worth while we continue the tank. Similar to Jackson (good) and okafor (bad), it’s worth a try.

[pistonpat]

When was the last time the Pistons maximized an asset. This organization always gets the least amount if value for their assets or miss the best time window like clock work. Just like Drummond last season. Teams love trading w Detroit!

[Piston Pete]

Will do it again here soon with Grant. His value will never be higher than it is right now.

The biggest example of this is Blake. Should have traded him two years ago when he was putting up CRAZY numbers.

Rose, we should have traded last season.

[Billl]

Obviously, DSJ hasn't panned out at this point, but he's the type of guy you take a flier on. Good size and athleticism and can get into the paint with ease. If he puts the work in to make his jumper respectable? Could be solid. I'd much rather keep giving guys like that a look vs filling the end of the bench with vets.

[rmfc]

Will do it again here soon with Grant. His value will never be higher than it is right now.

The biggest example of this is Blake. Should have traded him two years ago when he was putting up CRAZY numbers.

Rose, we should have traded last season.

Agreed. This is the time.
Blake should go ASAP but I know that it's just wishful thinking at this point.

[Piston Pete]

Headlines say the Heat, Clippers, Bucks, and Nets were all interested in DRose. Too bad we didn’t get them all into more of a bidding war with each other

[MotownMadness]

Headlines say the Heat, Clippers, Bucks, and Nets were all interested in DRose. Too bad we didn’t get them all into more of a bidding war with each other

Maybe that was the bidding war and that's the best we got

[Piston Pete]

That’s possible. Teams out there trying to lowball Weaver, I’m sure

[MotownMadness]

That’s possible. Teams out there trying to lowball Weaver, I’m sure

What in the world were you really expecting for Rose at this point? A RFA possible reclamation project and a 2nd rounder is pretty much right.

No different then trading Bullock for a 2nd and SVI as a project.

[Piston Pete]

I wasn’t expecting much.

But for DRose - who will likely start for the Knicks, we should have got more than a 2nd and their end of the bench guy.

[DetroitSho]

I wasn’t expecting much.

But for DRose - who will likely start for the Knicks, we should have got more than a 2nd and their end of the bench guy.

He doesn't increase in value if he becomes their starter.

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[Pharaoh]

So you wanted him traded, got your wish and now you're gonna complain about what we got in return?

None of us know what was offered but you somehow believe Weaver is getting lowballed?

This is funny

I wasn’t expecting much.

But for DRose - who will likely start for the Knicks, we should have got more than a 2nd and their end of the bench guy.

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[Piston Pete]

Sounds like you’re putting words in my mouth.

Have fun

[chrbal]

I wasn’t expecting much.

But for DRose - who will likely start for the Knicks, we should have got more than a 2nd and their end of the bench guy.

He’s only capable of playing like 2/3 of his games at about 24 minutes a game. What makes you think he’s going to start?

[DetroitSho]

Sounds like you’re putting words in my mouth.

Have fun

No he's actually recalling literally what you've posted.

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