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Hypothetical DRose Trades

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:47 pm
by Piston Pete
There are reports that the Knicks and Clippers have already expressed wanting to trade for DRose.

What are you best trades with either of those teams?

Re: Hypothetical DRose Trades

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:11 pm
by Manocad
Pick(s) this year

Re: Hypothetical DRose Trades

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:19 pm
by Snakebites
Whatever the best pick we can get is.

This year would be preferable but not absolutely necessary.

I’m skeptical a trade happens. We may be in a situation where teams will look for us to buy players out like we did with Reggie and Markieff last year.

Re: Hypothetical DRose Trades

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:21 pm
by thesack12
I'd take at least 2 of the 2nds back from LAC that were sent in the Kennard trade. The problem with them is salary matching, they aren't going to move Lou Williams for Rose, as Lou is better. And I can't see them moving Zubac either, as he is their only usable center.

The question with a potential Knicks trade is what are they willing to add to either Ntilikina or DSJ. Both of those guys work straight up for Rose and both are on expiring contracts. Doubt they are willing to add either of the Dallas 1sts, but they do have several extra 2nds incoming they can add.

Knicks actually own Detroit's '21 and '23 2nd rounders, give me those back and its a deal

Re: Hypothetical DRose Trades

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:23 pm
by Snakebites
thesack12 wrote:I'd take at least 2 of the 2nds back from LAC that were sent in the Kennard trade. The problem with them is salary matching, they aren't going to move Lou Williams for Rose, as Lou is better. And I can't see them moving Zubac either, as he is their only usable center.

The question with a potential Knicks trade is what are they willing to add to either Ntilikina or DSJ. Both of those guys work straight up for Rose and both are on expiring contracts. Doubt they are willing to add either of the Dallas 1sts, but they do have several extra 2nds incoming they can add.

Knicks actually own Detroit's '21 and '23 2nd rounders, give me those back and its a deal

Yeah I don’t think a first plausible from the Knicks, and our own second back has more value than a late first.

It’s unlikely I think.

Re: Hypothetical DRose Trades

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:24 pm
by thesack12
Snakebites wrote:Whatever the best pick we can get is.

This year would be preferable but not absolutely necessary.

I’m skeptical a trade happens. We may be in a situation where teams will look for us to buy players out like we did with Reggie and Markieff last year.


Agreed, I don't think the trade market for Rose has ever been all that strong. Off the top of my head, Alex Caruso + a 2nd was the only offer I remember hearing.

Re: Hypothetical DRose Trades

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:26 pm
by thesack12
Snakebites wrote:
thesack12 wrote:I'd take at least 2 of the 2nds back from LAC that were sent in the Kennard trade. The problem with them is salary matching, they aren't going to move Lou Williams for Rose, as Lou is better. And I can't see them moving Zubac either, as he is their only usable center.

The question with a potential Knicks trade is what are they willing to add to either Ntilikina or DSJ. Both of those guys work straight up for Rose and both are on expiring contracts. Doubt they are willing to add either of the Dallas 1sts, but they do have several extra 2nds incoming they can add.

Knicks actually own Detroit's '21 and '23 2nd rounders, give me those back and its a deal

Yeah I don’t think a first plausible from the Knicks, and our own second back has more value than a late first.

It’s unlikely I think.


I think you are right. I'd be fine with just getting the '23 pick back, because as previously mentioned I don't think there is a strong market for him. Would love to be proven wrong though.

Re: Hypothetical DRose Trades

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:34 pm
by Piston Pete
Keep thinking we could expand it to Rose/Plumlee (they need help at C) and take back junk expirings and a 1st rounder.

Re: Hypothetical DRose Trades

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:39 pm
by Snakebites
thesack12 wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Whatever the best pick we can get is.

This year would be preferable but not absolutely necessary.

I’m skeptical a trade happens. We may be in a situation where teams will look for us to buy players out like we did with Reggie and Markieff last year.


Agreed, I don't think the trade market for Rose has ever been all that strong. Off the top of my head, Alex Caruso + a 2nd was the only offer I remember hearing.


And it’s not even clear we were offered that. If anything Rose’s value is down this year.

Re: Hypothetical DRose Trades

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:59 pm
by edmunder_prc
Piston Pete wrote:There are reports that the Knicks and Clippers have already expressed wanting to trade for DRose.

What are you best trades with either of those teams?



Saben Lee already looks like a better player, for this team, than Derrick Rose. Saben drives and passes the ball. Derrick Rose drives to score.

If either team will give picks for 2021, take them. The sooner the better. His knees might give out.

Re: Hypothetical DRose Trades

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:04 pm
by DetroitSho
Snakebites wrote:
thesack12 wrote:I'd take at least 2 of the 2nds back from LAC that were sent in the Kennard trade. The problem with them is salary matching, they aren't going to move Lou Williams for Rose, as Lou is better. And I can't see them moving Zubac either, as he is their only usable center.

The question with a potential Knicks trade is what are they willing to add to either Ntilikina or DSJ. Both of those guys work straight up for Rose and both are on expiring contracts. Doubt they are willing to add either of the Dallas 1sts, but they do have several extra 2nds incoming they can add.

Knicks actually own Detroit's '21 and '23 2nd rounders, give me those back and its a deal

Yeah I don’t think a first plausible from the Knicks, and our own second back has more value than a late first.

It’s unlikely I think.
Did you just say a 2nd has more value than a 1st?

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Re: Hypothetical DRose Trades

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:09 pm
by Snakebites
DetroitSho wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
thesack12 wrote:I'd take at least 2 of the 2nds back from LAC that were sent in the Kennard trade. The problem with them is salary matching, they aren't going to move Lou Williams for Rose, as Lou is better. And I can't see them moving Zubac either, as he is their only usable center.

The question with a potential Knicks trade is what are they willing to add to either Ntilikina or DSJ. Both of those guys work straight up for Rose and both are on expiring contracts. Doubt they are willing to add either of the Dallas 1sts, but they do have several extra 2nds incoming they can add.

Knicks actually own Detroit's '21 and '23 2nd rounders, give me those back and its a deal

Yeah I don’t think a first plausible from the Knicks, and our own second back has more value than a late first.

It’s unlikely I think.
Did you just say a 2nd has more value than a 1st?

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An early second generally has more value than a late first like the Clippers could offer.

Roughly same caliber player at that point- no guaranteed deal.

Re: Hypothetical DRose Trades

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:34 pm
by DBC10
Anything of value, even 2nds

Just keep it simple

Re: Hypothetical DRose Trades

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:58 pm
by ByeByeDre
Injuries may force a team to need a Rose type a bit more, but as it stands, a second with an expiring or a first with a two year deal would be my best guess. We have $106 million locked up next year already, for ten more I’d take a first rounder.

Re: Hypothetical DRose Trades

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:05 am
by 440BB
Rose must be kept on a strict minutes limit when he returns or that left knee will eliminate any trade value.

Re: Hypothetical DRose Trades

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:08 am
by buzzkilloton
Going to the Knicks for Frankie Smokes. The French busts connection!

Re: Hypothetical DRose Trades

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:09 am
by MotownMadness
Knicks have our 2nd this year, Give it back!!!

Re: Hypothetical DRose Trades

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:39 am
by Snakebites
MotownMadness wrote:Knicks have our 2nd this year, Give it back!!!

How did the Knicks end up with it?

Re: Hypothetical DRose Trades

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:42 am
by GBanga3
Reggie Jackson........ lol

Re: Hypothetical DRose Trades

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:44 am
by MotownMadness
Snakebites wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Knicks have our 2nd this year, Give it back!!!

How did the Knicks end up with it?

Was actually wondering the same and didnt even know we had the Raptors 2nd this year until I seen it on tankathon