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Post#21 » by Piston Pete » Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:38 pm

Delon for Milton?
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Post#22 » by Pharaoh » Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:43 pm

Wright & Little to Philly
Scott & Isiah Joe to Portland
Ferguson & Simons to us

Picks to Portland to compensate.

We don't have a forward Portland could use but Scott seems expendable in Philly.

Philly get their guy + a prospect
Portland gain draft capital and a forward
We take 2 swings at prospects

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Post#23 » by DET_Athletics » Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:40 pm

Could you imagine a lineup of:

Hayes
Cunningham
Bey
Grant
Bamba

All of the switching and length. But yeah, we would have to give up at the very least a player and picks, maybe 2 first(a lottery grade and late first).

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Post#24 » by Pharaoh » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:50 am

Haven't seen much of Bamba - why are so many fascinated by him?
DET_Athletics wrote:Could you imagine a lineup of:

Hayes
Cunningham
Bey
Grant
Bamba

All of the switching and length. But yeah, we would have to give up at the very least a player and picks, maybe 2 first(a lottery grade and late first).

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Post#25 » by Piston Pete » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:54 am

Athletic 7-footer with 7’10” wingspan.

Will block shots and has decent shooting range. Can pick/roll or pick/pop.

Still only 22 or 23

A little raw, but has a skill set that can be developed.
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Post#26 » by chrbal » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:20 am

Pharaoh wrote:Haven't seen much of Bamba - why are so many fascinated by him?
DET_Athletics wrote:Could you imagine a lineup of:

Hayes
Cunningham
Bey
Grant
Bamba

All of the switching and length. But yeah, we would have to give up at the very least a player and picks, maybe 2 first(a lottery grade and late first).

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For me it’s partially the fact that I figure we have at least one, possibly two more seasons of something similar to this season. So if Orlando dumps him off at the deadline in a move similar to how the pistons got Maker I don’t see the problem. If he works out/develops great. If not his contract will be up shortly. It’s honestly why I don’t get why people have an issue with Dennis smith.

Also what Piston Pete said.
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Post#27 » by vege » Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:49 am

chrbal wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:Haven't seen much of Bamba - why are so many fascinated by him?
DET_Athletics wrote:Could you imagine a lineup of:

Hayes
Cunningham
Bey
Grant
Bamba

All of the switching and length. But yeah, we would have to give up at the very least a player and picks, maybe 2 first(a lottery grade and late first).

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For me it’s partially the fact that I figure we have at least one, possibly two more seasons of something similar to this season. So if Orlando dumps him off at the deadline in a move similar to how the pistons got Maker I don’t see the problem. If he works out/develops great. If not his contract will be up shortly. It’s honestly why I don’t get why people have an issue with Dennis smith.

Also what Piston Pete said.



DSJr does't have any NBA skills, while Bamba is a great defender/rim protector who can shoot 3's, so yeah, one has potential to be a star while the other will be out of the league soon.

DJSr seems like a likeable kid so I have nothing against him, but he doesn't seem like a NBA player.
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Post#28 » by Shooter1 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:55 am

Romeo Langford would be a good get.
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Post#29 » by chrbal » Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:13 am

vege wrote:
chrbal wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:Haven't seen much of Bamba - why are so many fascinated by him?

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For me it’s partially the fact that I figure we have at least one, possibly two more seasons of something similar to this season. So if Orlando dumps him off at the deadline in a move similar to how the pistons got Maker I don’t see the problem. If he works out/develops great. If not his contract will be up shortly. It’s honestly why I don’t get why people have an issue with Dennis smith.

Also what Piston Pete said.



DSJr does't have any NBA skills, while Bamba is a great defender/rim protector who can shoot 3's, so yeah, one has potential to be a star while the other will be out of the league soon.

DJSr seems like a likeable kid so I have nothing against him, but he doesn't seem like a NBA player.



I meant in the sense that Smith is basically a why not. I admittedly see that mo is a better prospect/project than Smith. I’m just saying if you’re not planning on really taking off, it makes sense to take small risks on former lottery picks still on their rookie deal. So that the people that have issues with it, some seem to act like he’s a building block or holding back a better player. Lee keeps this up, we don’t trade wright and then he and Hayes get healthy..I feel like Smith would be lucky to see the floor unless he’s proved himself and/or we got rid of Ellington and McGruder without taking anyone back (Ellington for some low 2nd and cap space, McGruder cut).
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Post#30 » by vege » Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:34 am

chrbal wrote:
vege wrote:
chrbal wrote:
For me it’s partially the fact that I figure we have at least one, possibly two more seasons of something similar to this season. So if Orlando dumps him off at the deadline in a move similar to how the pistons got Maker I don’t see the problem. If he works out/develops great. If not his contract will be up shortly. It’s honestly why I don’t get why people have an issue with Dennis smith.

Also what Piston Pete said.



DSJr does't have any NBA skills, while Bamba is a great defender/rim protector who can shoot 3's, so yeah, one has potential to be a star while the other will be out of the league soon.

DJSr seems like a likeable kid so I have nothing against him, but he doesn't seem like a NBA player.



I meant in the sense that Smith is basically a why not. I admittedly see that mo is a better prospect/project than Smith.


DSJr never developed any NBA skills, while Mo has them. That's why DSJr is a no. He can't shoot, can't finish, can't defend, has poor vision.
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Post#31 » by DocRI » Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:25 am

Malik Monk checks every box of this thread. He’s behind Ball, Rozier, and Graham in the Hornets’ pecking order and only averaging about 22 minutes a game, but he’s shooting over 47% from three. Charlotte desperately needs a C and Monk for Plumlee straight up works, but I’m not sure either team pulls the trigger on that deal. Still, Monk is exactly the type of guy we should be targeting and that Weaver has targeted in the past — an underused player with potential, much like Grant was. In fact, I could see Weaver trying to sign him this offseason if the Hornets prioritize keeping Graham instead.


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Post#32 » by ducler » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:53 am

I agree that Bol and Bamba should be our targets.

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Post#33 » by vege » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:10 am

Malik Monk is a good one, for a target in the offseason imo, not for a trade tho and I think he's more realistic than Bamba, because Weaver already drafted Stewart and signed Plumlee, so, one of them would have to go to make room for Bamba to get minutes.
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Post#34 » by Uncle Mxy » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:21 am

ducler wrote:I agree that Bol and Bamba should be our targets

The part I don't get is why they're not rotation players, backups behind Nikola?
What do their backup Cs have that's keeping them out of the rotation?
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Post#35 » by Laimbeer » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:37 pm

Uncle Mxy wrote:
ducler wrote:I agree that Bol and Bamba should be our targets

The part I don't get is why they're not rotation players, backups behind Nikola?
What do their backup Cs have that's keeping them out of the rotation?


There are threads on both of them in the trade forum. I was shocked at the low price tags - something like a high second.
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Post#36 » by Moses ShamMoses » Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:57 pm

I like the Malik Monk for Plumlee idea but I don't think Weaver wants to trade Plumlee with his affinity for centers and Plumlee playing well. But I guess it depends on how much Weaver values the younger Monk versus the established, Safe-bet Plumlee.
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Post#37 » by Piston Pete » Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:00 pm

Uncle Mxy wrote:
ducler wrote:I agree that Bol and Bamba should be our targets

The part I don't get is why they're not rotation players, backups behind Nikola?
What do their backup Cs have that's keeping them out of the rotation?


Without looking at the roster makeups with both teams, I’d guess the guys getting backup minutes in both places have experience over Bol and Bamba.

Bol, especially, will also need to figure out a way to add some bulk onto his frame.
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Post#38 » by MotownMadness » Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:44 pm

I've never got to see Bamba play but something's gotta be bad with him when the Magic spent the 6th pick and hes getting ready to enter his final year and they're playing Birch over him.
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Post#39 » by Piston Pete » Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:49 pm

Plumlee for Monk/2nd

DSJ and Ellington for Bamba


Hayes / Lee / Jackson
Monk / Svi
Jackson / Bey
Grant / Sekou
Stewart / Bamba
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Post#40 » by Moses ShamMoses » Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:59 pm

I like the idea of Mo Bamba but I'd be worried he'd either not play rotation minutes with Plumlee and Stewart or he'd take minutes away from Stewart. I think any trade involving another center would need to have a game plan where both Bamba (or other project center) and Stewart still get minutes. I wouldn't mind keeping Plumlee around either but I know that's probably not realistic. Just thinking he'd be a good role model center for how to play "the right way".
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