Danny Ainge and Celtics have interest in trading for Jerami Grant.

bstein14 · Post #1 » by **bstein14** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 12:14 am

I think this is worth having its own thread. Boston previously was confirmed to be looking for a forward that can play both forward spots, score the ball and defend.

Now its been confirmed that Ainge has interest in Jerami Grant.

#1, We 100% should listen to offers for Grant.

#2, We don't have to trade him unless we can get an offer that blows us away.

#3, Boston is unique in that they have the ability to use a trade exception to absorb 100% of Grant's salary. This means they could potentially give up multiple assets for him and also could give us the cap space to go after another big name FA next summer (or multiple smaller FA).

Personally, I'd love to keep Grant as the start of the rebuild much like how Ben Wallace started it all when we got him and Chucky Atkins in the Grant Hill trade. That said, we are still seemingly so far away that if a killer deal for Grant comes along its something we need to seriously consider. We also need to consider how it makes us potentially look to other FA's if Grant is unhappy with a trade. It may be smart to make sure he's 100% on board with a move to a contender if that also means he gets a bigger role with them. If his heart is in Detroit and wants to continue to lead this rebuild I think we keep him.

DBC10 · Post #2 » by **DBC10** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 12:18 am

I don't think Ainge puts in the picks needed to even get the conversation really started. I think minimum it would take 2 first round picks and a swap to a future one, similar to the Jrue Holiday deal and whatever young talent/filler

Weaver probably doesn't do it. He specifically brought in Jerami and Jerami specifically mentioned coming here to play for the Pistons for Weaver and the city. Per Lowe's podcast

zeebneeb · Post #3 » by **zeebneeb** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 12:25 am

I'm sorry but screw the Celtics and everything about them. You don't trade with Danny, unless he bends over for you, and then you deny the lube. He has to learn a lesson.

Grant for Brown, and two firsts.

BJK1 · Post #4 » by **BJK1** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 12:31 am

I read somewhere that Boston isn’t considered a good trade partner by teams because they ask for a lot but haven’t been willing to concede the necessary assets in return. Apparently the highway robbery of a trade with the Nets years ago has warped Ainge’s perception of fair trades.

bstein14 · Post #5 » by **bstein14** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 12:39 am

zeebneeb wrote:I'm sorry but screw the Celtics and everything about them. You don't trade with Danny, unless he bends over for you, and then you deny the lube. He has to learn a lesson.

Grant for Brown, and two firsts.

Wasn't it one of his first trades that landed up a championship in 04? He was the extra team we needed to make the Sheed trade work, and then he also bought out Lindsey Hunter so he could then resigned with the Pistons.

I'd say he is certainly known for only wanting to make trades where he wins them handily, but its likely a case of him overvaluing assets. He is finally on the hot seat a bit I think and needs to keep the Celtics relevant in the East.

bstein14 · Post #6 » by **bstein14** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 12:45 am

Personally I'd want two good young assets and two first rounders for Grant. Or 3 first rounders.

They have some interesting young players. Tacko Fall, Carson Edwards, Romeo Langford, Aaron Nesmith, Grant Williams, Tremont Waters, Robert Williams....

flow · Post #7 » by **flow** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 1:11 am

1. Following these reports, it was reported that Detroit has zero interest in trading Grant.

2. I don't like the look of trading a guy the same year he agrees to sign with you. Especially when he's killing it on the court. Players take notes on this stuff. Not good for business.

Pharaoh · Post #8 » by **Pharaoh** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 1:49 am

Do the Celtics have any good picks left to trade or would we be getting picks in the 20-25 range?

They have a bunch of young guys but none of them look all that flash this far.

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mattao313 · Post #9 » by **mattao313** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 1:59 am

I think Trading Grant is the right move but not Boston. Washington, Minnsota, and Golden State are the teams we need to be talking to.

bstein14 · Post #10 » by **bstein14** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 2:00 am

Pharaoh wrote:Do the Celtics have any good picks left to trade or would we be getting picks in the 20-25 range?

They have a bunch of young guys but none of them look all that flash this far.

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Just their own picks now as far as first rounders go.

I agree I would want 3 first rounders 2021/2023/2025 .... or two first rounders and two young prospects to make this deal.

Picks in the 20 to 30 range aren't that exciting you end up with a lot more duds than you do guys like Tayshaun Prince or (hopefully) Bey.

I think its safe to say its incredibly unlikely a deal gets done but I think its good for us teams want Grant. The more interest in him the better it is for us.

zeebneeb · Post #11 » by **zeebneeb** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 2:23 am

bstein14 wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:I'm sorry but screw the Celtics and everything about them. You don't trade with Danny, unless he bends over for you, and then you deny the lube. He has to learn a lesson.

Grant for Brown, and two firsts.

Wasn't it one of his first trades that landed up a championship in 04? He was the extra team we needed to make the Sheed trade work, and then he also bought out Lindsey Hunter so he could then resigned with the Pistons.

I'd say he is certainly known for only wanting to make trades where he wins them handily, but its likely a case of him overvaluing assets. He is finally on the hot seat a bit I think and needs to keep the Celtics relevant in the East.

Yup.

https://www.nba.com/pistons/features/big-deal-pistons-deadline-acquisition-rasheed-wallace-shook-nba-and-brought-another-banner

flow · Post #12 » by **flow** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 2:52 am

By the way, Grant isn't what Boston needs in the first place. Where's he going to play with Brown & Tatum? They need size and guard play.

This whole thing is a farce. Waste of thought.

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DBC10 · Post #13 » by **DBC10** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 2:58 am

flow wrote:By the way, Grant isn't what Boston needs in the first place. Where's he going to play with Brown & Tatum? They need size and guard play.

This whole thing is a farce. Waste of thought.

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Marcus Smart I believe is coming back so they'll be able to fill the guard positions back again. They just need big and lengthy bodies, and I think they envision Grant as the hybrid 4/5 while Brown and Tatum play wherever needed

Uncle Mxy · Post #14 » by **Uncle Mxy** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 3:17 am

zeebneeb wrote:I'm sorry but screw the Celtics and everything about them. You don't trade with Danny, unless he bends over for you, and then you deny the lube. He has to learn a lesson.

Amen!

flow · Post #15 » by **flow** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 3:18 am

DBC10 wrote:
flow wrote:By the way, Grant isn't what Boston needs in the first place. Where's he going to play with Brown & Tatum? They need size and guard play.

This whole thing is a farce. Waste of thought.

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Marcus Smart I believe is coming back so they'll be able to fill the guard positions back again. They just need big and lengthy bodies, and I think they envision Grant as the hybrid 4/5 while Brown and Tatum play wherever needed

Smart's return doesn't solve their guard problems. They have yet to adequately replace Wanamaker, who was very good/important as their 3rd guard last year. And Walker continues to underwhelm at the point. He's not the guy he was in Charlotte.

Post #16 » by **Cowology** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 3:54 am

I would not deal with Ainge for a number of reasons. Not the least of which is... I just don't like him. But yeah, the Celts are also pretty stingy trade partners. Not a lot to be gained there.

SamFlow · Post #17 » by **SamFlow** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 5:13 am

Cowology wrote:I would not deal with Ainge for a number of reasons. Not the least of which is... I just don't like him. But yeah, the Celts are also pretty stingy trade partners. Not a lot to be gained there.

I believe Ainge helped Detroit get Rasheed Wallace back in the day. Ainge is like Bill Laimbeer, you hate him on another team.

As for trades... I'd consider

Blake, Grant, Ellington, Svi
for
Kemba, Smart, Langford, Nesmith

or
Blake, Grant, Ellington, Svi
for
Kemba, Tristian, Langford, Nesmith

But neither will happen. But I'd do either.

Post #18 » by **Snakebites** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 5:40 am

I’ll be honest- I could care less about dealing with Ainge or the Celtics. A good move is a good move, a bad one is a bad one. How I feel about who the deal is made with means nothing.

That said, 2 things jump out:

1) Ainge has a reputation for being stingy with his assets.

2) The Celtics don’t have a great deal of trade value outside of their 2 star wings who they’re not going to part with. They have their own first rounders and some unimpressive prospects.

It doesn’t surprise me that they’re interested in Grant. I’d even consider dealing him in the right move (though I’ve become a lot more comfortable with the notion of keeping him). There’s no match here IMO.

Spider156 · Post #19 » by **Spider156** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 8:42 am

This is what you do.

1. You flip the finger on Ainge
2. Max Grant

DetroitSho · Post #20 » by **DetroitSho** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 1:46 pm

bstein14 wrote:Personally I'd want two good young assets and two first rounders for Grant. Or 3 first rounders.

They have some interesting young players. Tacko Fall, Carson Edwards, Romeo Langford, Aaron Nesmith, Grant Williams, Tremont Waters, Robert Williams....

You stopped before you got to the interesting young players apparently. I guess at most Nesmith would be somebody the Pistons would eye.

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