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Dedmon signed by Miami 

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Post#2 » by GreekAlex » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:08 am

Now we sit back and watch the savings on his stretched contract roll in!

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Post#3 » by Uncle Mxy » Wed Apr 7, 2021 8:20 am

Dedmoney... heh.
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Post#4 » by chrbal » Wed Apr 7, 2021 2:54 pm

Yippee? It’s a poor waiver market when he had Philadelphia and Miami trying to add him. Maybe he’ll sign a full contract next year.

Hard to really care about the guys that were basically part of the Pistons for a weekend.

Also I’m not one of the people that really cares about his contract being on our books for the length it is. If we managed to stretch Blake’s that would be an issue.
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Post#5 » by Sort » Wed Apr 7, 2021 3:50 pm

To me it's always startling to see people go from huge contracts to basically out of the league, even via stretch like Dedmon or Josh Smith. Say whatever you like, but seems like once a player gets stretched, their career has either a) already crashed and burned or b) is about to.
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Post#6 » by Snakebites » Wed Apr 7, 2021 3:59 pm

I will always remember him for his great service to the team.

Godspeed.
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Post#7 » by Kilo » Wed Apr 7, 2021 4:31 pm

Won't help this season but if he plays well in Miami and can earn 3M+ next year and beyond Detroit could see 1M+ in cap hit.
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Post#8 » by chrbal » Wed Apr 7, 2021 6:37 pm

Sort wrote:To me it's always startling to see people go from huge contracts to basically out of the league, even via stretch like Dedmon or Josh Smith. Say whatever you like, but seems like once a player gets stretched, their career has either a) already crashed and burned or b) is about to.



But that’s kind of the point of teams stretching players. They are no longer worth the contract or taking up a spot. Or the game no longer fits their style, like Josh Smith.

There are exceptions to the rule. For example it’ll be interesting to see what kind of market Drummond has going forward and how much longer his nba career lasts.
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Post#9 » by whitehops » Wed Apr 7, 2021 7:50 pm

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Sort wrote:To me it's always startling to see people go from huge contracts to basically out of the league, even via stretch like Dedmon or Josh Smith. Say whatever you like, but seems like once a player gets stretched, their career has either a) already crashed and burned or b) is about to.


But that’s kind of the point of teams stretching players. They are no longer worth the contract or taking up a spot. Or the game no longer fits their style, like Josh Smith.

There are exceptions to the rule. For example it’ll be interesting to see what kind of market Drummond has going forward and how much longer his nba career lasts.


i feel like a lot of times teams (often small market teams) have to force their hand and pony up for free agents, which pretty much makes them overpaid right off the bat. if their quality of play declines at all, they become borderline untradeable pretty quickly.

part of it is money/role too i think. like with drummond, if no team is willing to pay him more than the vet's minimum and give him ~10 MPG off the bench, he might just retire because he's already made over $100 million in his career. i'm sure he'll get the MLE which will probably be enough to keep him playing but i wouldn't be surprised if drummond was out of the league in a few years. as he gets older and older, his "potential" or whatever gets less and less and teams will rather pay that money to young, up-and-coming players.
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Post#10 » by ven412 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 7:59 pm

chrbal wrote:
Sort wrote:To me it's always startling to see people go from huge contracts to basically out of the league, even via stretch like Dedmon or Josh Smith. Say whatever you like, but seems like once a player gets stretched, their career has either a) already crashed and burned or b) is about to.



But that’s kind of the point of teams stretching players. They are no longer worth the contract or taking up a spot. Or the game no longer fits their style, like Josh Smith.

There are exceptions to the rule. For example it’ll be interesting to see what kind of market Drummond has going forward and how much longer his nba career lasts.


Drummond will be in the league for a looong time. He’s what, 28?
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Post#11 » by Crymson » Wed Apr 7, 2021 8:36 pm

Kilo wrote:Won't help this season but if he plays well in Miami and can earn 3M+ next year and beyond Detroit could see 1M+ in cap hit.


If he were to sign for $3m, the Pistons would see about $750K in cap savings.
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Post#12 » by Snakebites » Wed Apr 7, 2021 9:09 pm

I don't think any stretched player has ever yielded significant savings for his former team by signing substantial contracts after getting stretched.

Josh Smith sure didn't.
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Post#13 » by chrbal » Wed Apr 7, 2021 9:58 pm

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Drummond will be in the league for a looong time. He’s what, 28?


By no means am I saying he’s out of the NBA in two seasons. I just think he’ll be lucky to get an MLE next season.

You consider the fact that he’ll have made something like $120-130 million off the NBA for his career. It makes you wonder how long he puts his body through it for less and less money. He’s never exactly been known for his strong motor.

He’ll get his stats for a while, but I don’t see him taking on backup roles for little, to him, money like Dwight Howard is currently doing. He chose to just sit rather than be a backup this season after all.
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Post#14 » by Pharaoh » Wed Apr 7, 2021 10:06 pm

I believe Cleveland chose to sit him, not Dre refusing to come off the bench.
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Drummond will be in the league for a looong time. He’s what, 28?


By no means am I saying he’s out of the NBA in two seasons. I just think he’ll be lucky to get an MLE next season.

You consider the fact that he’ll have made something like $120-130 million off the NBA for his career. It makes you wonder how long he puts his body through it for less and less money. He’s never exactly been known for his strong motor.

He’ll get his stats for a while, but I don’t see him taking on backup roles for little, to him, money like Dwight Howard is currently doing. He chose to just sit rather than be a backup this season after all.


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Post#15 » by chrbal » Wed Apr 7, 2021 10:15 pm

Pharaoh wrote:I believe Cleveland chose to sit him, not Dre refusing to come off the bench.


I think it was a mutual decision. There’s no way he doesn’t sit and cheer if he didn’t want to.
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Post#16 » by Pharaoh » Thu Apr 8, 2021 12:02 am

The Cavs made the decision for him.

Didn't you see Draymond Green's rant about it?
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Pharaoh wrote:I believe Cleveland chose to sit him, not Dre refusing to come off the bench.


I think it was a mutual decision. There’s no way he doesn’t sit and cheer if he didn’t want to.


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Post#17 » by DetroitSho » Thu Apr 8, 2021 12:12 am

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Pharaoh wrote:I believe Cleveland chose to sit him, not Dre refusing to come off the bench.


I think it was a mutual decision. There’s no way he doesn’t sit and cheer if he didn’t want to.
Dude why would he sit and cheer on the end of the Cavs bench?

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Post#18 » by Uncle Mxy » Thu Apr 8, 2021 12:14 am

Did you know that "number nine" played backwards sounds like "turn me on, Dedmon"?



I would've posted this earlier, had he been around long enough to matter.
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Post#19 » by chrbal » Thu Apr 8, 2021 12:22 am

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Pharaoh wrote:I believe Cleveland chose to sit him, not Dre refusing to come off the bench.


I think it was a mutual decision. There’s no way he doesn’t sit and cheer if he didn’t want to.
Dude why would he sit and cheer on the end of the Cavs bench?

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Gets the money no matter what. Doesn’t risk an injury. Gets to pick his team.

If he got traded he’s looking at Charlotte, Chicago, New York. Basically bottom of the playoff seeding teams. He gets the buyout he gets to choose the team he wants to join that most likely never could have traded for him.

I’m not saying that I know this happened, but I’d be really surprised if Drummond had really no part in that decision he would’ve complained to the players association. And this all would’ve been a bigger story than just draymond saying his opinion.
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Post#20 » by DetroitSho » Thu Apr 8, 2021 1:54 am

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I think it was a mutual decision. There’s no way he doesn’t sit and cheer if he didn’t want to.
Dude why would he sit and cheer on the end of the Cavs bench?

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Gets the money no matter what. Doesn’t risk an injury. Gets to pick his team.

If he got traded he’s looking at Charlotte, Chicago, New York. Basically bottom of the playoff seeding teams. He gets the buyout he gets to choose the team he wants to join that most likely never could have traded for him.

I’m not saying that I know this happened, but I’d be really surprised if Drummond had really no part in that decision he would’ve complained to the players association. And this all would’ve been a bigger story than just draymond saying his opinion.
You literally listed the reasons why he SHOULDN'T sit and cheer on the bench. Buy me out so I can choose my team. He was never being traded.

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