6th Pick of the draft.

Shooter1 · Post #1 » by **Shooter1** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:50 am

The top 5 picks have has some what of a consensuses of
Cade
Mobley
Suggs
Green
Kuminga

But what if the Pistons fall out of the top 5? What are your top 3 picks?

MotownMadness · Post #2 » by **MotownMadness** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:14 am

Springer
Bouknight
Keon Johnson

vege · Post #3 » by **vege** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:31 am

Greg Monroe, Brandon Knight, Stanley Johnson. Been there.....

El Chivo · Post #4 » by **El Chivo** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:27 am

Kuminga could be available.

ducler · Post #5 » by **ducler** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:28 am

Trade down should be an option.

JohnReese · Post #6 » by **JohnReese** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:39 am

I would trade down and gamble on Garuba or Giddey.

Manocad · Post #7 » by **Manocad** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:21 pm

ducler wrote:Trade down should be an option.

That's definitely where I'd go with it if the Pistons wind up at 6th or lower. Like I posted previously, maybe trade 6-7 for a second rounder this year and a first next year or something. Or a lower first and a second. Something like that.

DBC10 · Post #8 » by **DBC10** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:34 pm

I'd trade down and grab a future pick or just draft a raw unknown unicorn and roll the dice there

edmunder_prc · Post #9 » by **edmunder_prc** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:56 pm

The only player that I saw much of and was impressed by: Bouknight.

But if this season of tearing down the team to tank leads to him, thats not very good.

Apparently he tore his meniscus his Freshman year, or before it. But he is 6'5" and had the ball in his hands all the time, shooting, driving, etc. He is tall enough to be a good SG, who knows, maybe he grows some more.

I saw him dribble around picks and shoot, which is a valuable NBA skill. Bey for example is an amazing shooter, but he is a catch and shoot guy. Someone who can dribble, drive, move and shoot is a valuable for the team.

I don't much about Barnes but he seems to be the other possible choice.

The modern NBA needs wings and shooters. The Pistons could still use a lot more shooting.

whitehops · Post #10 » by **whitehops** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:05 pm

scottie barnes would be an interesting pick at 6, assuming the five guys in the OP were all gone by then.

he would be interesting in that he doesn't project to be a #1 or even #2 guy, but instead could be the ultimate "glue guy". his common NBA comp is draymond green and while they aren't identical it is a good way to view barnes. offensively he has great vision and actually has a bit of a dribble-drive game (and is good at finishing inside). defensively he is really good defending the perimeter for someone who is 6'9 and projects to be a versatile impact defender.

his scoring/shooting are very underdeveloped which is a legit concern in a scoring league but his combo of size (6'9, 7'2 wingspan), athleticism and feel for the game/vision are rare to find. it would also give him time to grow as a reliable jump shot (which he isn't close to having now) would make him a lot more valuable.

aad · Post #11 » by **aad** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:20 pm

Keon Johnson
Mosses Moody
Davion Mitchell

edmunder_prc · Post #12 » by **edmunder_prc** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:17 pm

whitehops wrote:scottie barnes would be an interesting pick at 6, assuming the five guys in the OP were all gone by then.

he would be interesting in that he doesn't project to be a #1 or even #2 guy, but instead could be the ultimate "glue guy". his common NBA comp is draymond green and while they aren't identical it is a good way to view barnes. offensively he has great vision and actually has a bit of a dribble-drive game (and is good at finishing inside). defensively he is really good defending the perimeter for someone who is 6'9 and projects to be a versatile impact defender.

his scoring/shooting are very underdeveloped which is a legit concern in a scoring league but his combo of size (6'9, 7'2 wingspan), athleticism and feel for the game/vision are rare to find. it would also give him time to grow as a reliable jump shot (which he isn't close to having now) would make him a lot more valuable.

At 6'9" if he has elite athleticism that is interesting, but a SF/PF tweener that can't shoot is another guy to "work around".

Our PG can't shoot. So then you need a SG, SF, C combo that are elite shooters. Bey is elite, so that's 1.

The team needs a #1 and even a better #2 on the team than Grant. Grant would be an excellent #2B. Maybe Bey grows his game (good guess he does). So there are the #2 A and B.

Where does the leader of the team come from? A Durant, Harden, Jokic, Luka, Giannis, Tatum, Lebron, Kawhi, Butler, Embiid, Chris Paul, Curry, etc.

Hayes, Bey, Grant, Stewart plus one of those guys, that team could be pretty good I think.

flow · Post #13 » by **flow** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:24 pm

They're not trading down/out of the 1st.

It was one thing to convince Gores to tank for this year's draft. Now you're going to say, "Ok Mr. Gores, we're going to hold off on the pick this year after all, and tank even harder next year in hopes of better lottery luck."

Yeah, no.

Drwho17 · Post #14 » by **Drwho17** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:53 pm

flow wrote:They're not trading down/out of the 1st.

It was one thing to convince Gores to tank for this year's draft. Now you're going to say, "Ok Mr. Gores, we're going to hold off on the pick this year after all, and tank even harder next year in hopes of better lottery luck."

Yeah, no.

My suspicion is that Weaver has full autonomy, judging by the results of his first year at the helm, he should get a lot of leeway, I don't believe there is any need to convince Gores that he is on the right track. I'm not sure if there has ever been a better draft in the modern era, certainly not in the first draft by a new GM. It could be a fluke, but it seems to me Weaver targeted Stewart/Bey, not sure about Hayes but he did take him over Haliburton, so I feel good about him moving forward in a stronger draft. I suspect the Pistons will make multiple first round selections this year also, hopefully picking guys with useful skills.

NYPiston · Post #15 » by **NYPiston** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:04 pm

I agree with the "trade down" crowd. I think people are underrating the 2nd tier group just because the top 5 is so strong but there are some good players to be had here and some with upside as high as some of the top 5 guys like Keon Johnson, Kai Jones, Jalen Johnson but yeah, I think trade down would be the way to go if Weaver can swing it although I think it'll be tough to find a trade partner because this group is so tightly clustered.

I like the Tennessee guys, Johnson and Springer the most if they stay at 6. Very athletic, improved shooters (Johnson got better as the season wore on), solid 2 way players. REally not that bad of a consolation prize if they get one of those two.
My worry is that Weaver becomes infatuated with Barnes because of the length and versatility. The Pistons need a scorer, they already have a great passer in Killian. Barnes is a tremendous passer but the offense just isn't there.

Manocad · Post #16 » by **Manocad** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:39 pm

flow wrote:They're not trading down/out of the 1st.

It was one thing to convince Gores to tank for this year's draft. Now you're going to say, "Ok Mr. Gores, we're going to hold off on the pick this year after all, and tank even harder next year in hopes of better lottery luck."

Yeah, no.

Tanking this year was the right thing to do regardless of the strength of this draft. Anyone with half a brain wouldn't be expecting to come out of an offseason where it all got torn down and be competing for something. That being said, given the strength of this draft would I trade #6 for something like #15 and a second rounder this year? Absolutely.

Post #17 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:02 pm

I'm not sure what you can get for the 6th pick in this draft in terms of moving down, but yeah, that's the direction I'd take it in.

I think we need to keep our fingers crossed that we retain a top 5 (or 4?) pick. If we finish 5th (looking like a high level of probability at the moment) then actually getting the 5th pick is surprisingly unlikely- we only get that if all of the bottom 4 teams are selected for top 4 picks.

And if you aren't bottom 5 I'm pretty sure it's impossible to get the 5th pick.

Menace2Sobriety · Post #18 » by **Menace2Sobriety** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:06 pm

I could envision a scenario where Weaver consolidates the SRPs, along with a CuJo trade for more assets that would ultimately net another FRP (while assuming a larger 1 year contract).

With the first pick - swing hard for a high ceiling prospect. I like Keon Johnson, Moses Moody, and potentially Jalen Johnson - but each have a few red flags. I don’t think we need Scotty Barnes.

With the latter pick, I trust Weaver and team to identify the right prospect to complement this team - much like Bey and Stewart. I do like Alperin Sengun however.

FloridaMan78 · Post #19 » by **FloridaMan78** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:24 pm

I can see us trading down or even trading back into the 1st round with our seconds. Houston has the 19th, 22nd, and 24th picks if we wanted to trade back, getting 2 top 10 picks would be a lot of hype for them.This draft is very deep after the top 5. Someone is going to fall. Some of the names listed here will be there at 19.

Weaver has shown he’s got a good eye for talent, I would argue he got 3 of the top 5 players with the 7th, 16th, 19th picks. Getting as many assets to be able to trade for a star is necessary. There are more ways to acquire a star then just the draft, that’s something we’ll have to accept since it’s looking like we’ll miss out on the top 5 this year and probably next year too. These young guys are not going to lose more than 60 games next year. But who knows we might get lucky with the ping pong balls.

I like Bouknight, Davion Mitchell, Moody all of whom might be there at 19. I want someone that can shoot.

Manocad · Post #20 » by **Manocad** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:26 pm

Snakebites wrote:I'm not sure what you can get for the 6th pick in this draft in terms of moving down, but yeah, that's the direction I'd take it in.

I think we need to keep our fingers crossed that we retain a top 5 (or 4?) pick. If we finish 5th (looking like a high level of probability at the moment) then actually getting the 5th pick is surprisingly unlikely- we only get that if all of the bottom 4 teams are selected for top 4 picks.

And if you aren't bottom 5 I'm pretty sure it's impossible to get the 5th pick.

Correct. A team can't get a draft pick higher than its record position unless it's in the top 4.

It seems screwy at 5 but I get the logic. The cost of getting a pretty good shot at the 1-4 picks is that if you don't get there you're likely falling below your record position. Thus as the odds at picks 1-4 fall, the odds that the team holds its record position increase.