Stewart and Mobley

aad · Post #1 » by **aad** » Fri May 14, 2021 6:49 pm

Will they be able to play together and be our front court of the future?

I prefer green or Suggs over Mobley but I’m seeing Mobley is number two on weaver board

Moses ShamMoses · Post #2 » by **Moses ShamMoses** » Fri May 14, 2021 7:36 pm

I think both have enough variety to their games to be able to co-exist. Mobley sort of reminds me of Christian Wood with better defensive IQ.

ducler · Post #3 » by **ducler** » Fri May 14, 2021 7:40 pm

If both Cunningham and Green are off the board when we pick, I'd take him but we would have to trade Grant or Sekou for that so we avoid the logjam at PF. And we still be without a 1st scoring option in the perimeter.

DNice68 · Post #4 » by **DNice68** » Fri May 14, 2021 7:40 pm

aad wrote:Will they be able to play together and be our front court of the future?

I prefer green or Suggs over Mobley but I’m seeing Mobley is number two on weaver board

Where is Weaver’s board?

Post #5 » by **Snakebites** » Fri May 14, 2021 7:56 pm

DNice68 wrote:
aad wrote:Will they be able to play together and be our front court of the future?

I prefer green or Suggs over Mobley but I’m seeing Mobley is number two on weaver board

Where is Weaver’s board?

This.

I was skeptical of the initial premise of the thread, but figured it was specific enough to possibly warrant discussion even without a source.

bstein14 · Post #6 » by **bstein14** » Fri May 14, 2021 8:08 pm

It would be fine, and the only downside is it moves Bey to backup with Grant at SF.

I actually think that is a really promising defensive front court.

The other possible scenario is that it would keep Stewart on the bench and he would be an energy big in the 2nd unit. I don't think you draft Mobley and bring him off the bench.

Also likely moves Plumlee to another team by mid season because his role would be greatly reduced here.

tmorgan · Post #7 » by **tmorgan** » Fri May 14, 2021 8:11 pm

Just draft Green.

Post #8 » by **Snakebites** » Fri May 14, 2021 8:14 pm

bstein14 wrote:It would be fine, and the only downside is it moves Bey to backup with Grant at SF.

I actually think that is a really promising defensive front court.

The other possible scenario is that it would keep Stewart on the bench and he would be an energy big in the 2nd unit. I don't think you draft Mobley and bring him off the bench.

Also likely moves Plumlee to another team by mid season because his role would be greatly reduced here.

I think that it’s more likely Stewart is a 6th man and Plumlee is traded in that case. Stewart still sees plenty of minutes but the front court rotation gets tighter.

I definitely want a perimeter player in the draft.

DNice68 · Post #9 » by **DNice68** » Fri May 14, 2021 8:14 pm

bstein14 wrote:It would be fine, and the only downside is it moves Bey to backup with Grant at SF.

I actually think that is a really promising defensive front court.

The other possible scenario is that it would keep Stewart on the bench and he would be an energy big in the 2nd unit. I don't think you draft Mobley and bring him off the bench.

Also likely moves Plumlee to another team by mid season because his role would be greatly reduced here.

Plus Grant is much better at the 4 than the 3. I would not balk at getting Mobley, but Green or Suggs makes more sense.

Post #10 » by **Snakebites** » Fri May 14, 2021 8:21 pm

Make no mistake, I like our young guys, but we still should be in BPA mode for our first rounder. Team need is fine for later picks.

That said, I still have Cade, Suggs, and Green ahead of him.

Kilo · Post #11 » by **Kilo** » Fri May 14, 2021 8:43 pm

JLEIII I believe has indicated the Piston board is basically Cunningham, Green and then some cat named Bouknight after a modest trade down or something.

Basically Weaver's plan is to get a 2-guard out of the draft.

DNice68 · Post #12 » by **DNice68** » Fri May 14, 2021 8:48 pm

Kilo wrote:JLEIII I believe has indicated the Piston board is basically Cunningham, Green and then some cat named Bouknight after a modest trade down or something.

Basically Weaver's plan is to get a 2-guard out of the draft.

This I believe!

Post #13 » by **Snakebites** » Fri May 14, 2021 8:56 pm

Kilo wrote:JLEIII I believe has indicated the Piston board is basically Cunningham, Green and then some cat named Bouknight after a modest trade down or something.

Basically Weaver's plan is to get a 2-guard out of the draft.

Are there any teams that don’t have Cade/Green at the top? Otherwise a trade down seems likely. We’ve got less than a 30 percent chance at a top 2 pick.

How I’d feel about that really depends on what kind of value a trade down would get us.

zeebneeb · Post #14 » by **zeebneeb** » Fri May 14, 2021 9:47 pm

Snakebites wrote:
Kilo wrote:JLEIII I believe has indicated the Piston board is basically Cunningham, Green and then some cat named Bouknight after a modest trade down or something.

Basically Weaver's plan is to get a 2-guard out of the draft.

Are there any teams that don’t have Cade/Green at the top? Otherwise a trade down seems likely. We’ve got less than a 30 percent chance at a top 2 pick.

How I’d feel about that really depends on what kind of value a trade down would get us.

I guarantee there are teams that have either Suggs, or Mobley over Green if they land at the #2 spot.

Man I hope the Pistons at least hit 2. No Brainer time there.

As for the Pistons board, link? Or just wild speculation?

DetroitSho · Post #15 » by **DetroitSho** » Fri May 14, 2021 9:49 pm

DNice68 wrote:
aad wrote:Will they be able to play together and be our front court of the future?

I prefer green or Suggs over Mobley but I’m seeing Mobley is number two on weaver board

Where is Weaver’s board?

Lol right

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DetroitSho · Post #16 » by **DetroitSho** » Fri May 14, 2021 9:56 pm

zeebneeb wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
Kilo wrote:JLEIII I believe has indicated the Piston board is basically Cunningham, Green and then some cat named Bouknight after a modest trade down or something.

Basically Weaver's plan is to get a 2-guard out of the draft.

Are there any teams that don’t have Cade/Green at the top? Otherwise a trade down seems likely. We’ve got less than a 30 percent chance at a top 2 pick.

How I’d feel about that really depends on what kind of value a trade down would get us.
I guarantee there are teams that have either Suggs, or Mobley over Green if they land at the #2 spot.

Man I hope the Pistons at least hit 2. No Brainer time there.

As for the Pistons board, link? Or just wild speculation?

Just guess

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Pharaoh · Post #17 » by **Pharaoh** » Fri May 14, 2021 10:49 pm

Assuming we pick 4th and Mobley is there (I have Cade, Green & Suggs ahead of him) I don't think it creates a ripple effect for our real rotation players.

Rough 10 man:

Plumlee 26 - Stewart 22
Grant 26 - Mobley 22
Bey 30 - Jackson 10 - Grant 8
Jackson 18 - Frank 15 - Diallo 15
Hayes 30 - Lee 18

Definitely think Mobley & Stewart could play significant minutes together given their different skill sets.

All that said I want a top 3 pick so we can grab a guard

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whitehops · Post #18 » by **whitehops** » Sat May 15, 2021 1:16 am

i really don't think it makes much sense to play them together, at least not as part of a consistent rotation.

DCintheD · Post #19 » by **DCintheD** » Sat May 15, 2021 1:17 am

If we don’t the 1st pick part of me wants the 4th pick with Mobley off the board. Whoever’s left between Green and Suggs so the decision is easy.

Manocad · Post #20 » by **Manocad** » Sat May 15, 2021 2:06 am

DCintheD wrote:If we don’t the 1st pick part of me wants the 4th pick with Mobley off the board. Whoever’s left between Green and Suggs so the decision is easy.

While I would never purport to know what Weaver is thinking, I'd bet my house he has very firmly established preferences for picks 1-6 based on who's available where the Pistons land, i.e. the draft decision has already been made. So "not easy" doesn't enter into it because the only question is which position it will be.

Now, if what you mean is that you hope Mobley is gone so Weaver HAS to take one of either Suggs or Mobley if they're available when the Pistons pick, I can understand that sentiment.