buzzkilloton wrote: Manocad wrote:
SVG was the GM/coach. Its not Gores taking calls from other teams to discuss players. The only people who say this are a few fans. Gores might of said ok to the deal itself because hes paying the bills but SVG is the guy making moves. If SVG didnt want to do it you best believe he would of mentioned it tot he media by now as it was a complete failure of a move that makes him look bad.
Early Tuesday morning, Detroit Pistons owner Tom Gores released a statement after his team acquired five-time All-Star Blake Griffin from the Los Angeles Clippers.
“We are serious about winning, and this is a major move to improve our team,” Gores said in the statement. “Blake Griffin is one of the NBA’s elite players, and when you get an opportunity to add that kind of talent, you take it.”
Yeah, Gores had nothing to do with getting Blake. If you want to play the constant contrarian you need to do your research and pick your spots a little better.
This quote means nothing whatsoever. Ofc Gores said positive things and even liked the trade when SVG brought it to him.WE wouldnt make this kind of move without Gores also being ok with with. Gores wanted to make the playoffs but dont think that SVG had some diff vision. SVG was always vocal against tanking and made moves to win games while he was there.
Still I'm not sure why you guys assume coke head Gores is taking calls and making basketball decisions for the Pistons. He gave SVG a ton of money SVG was the guy making decisions for the team he was the coach and basically the GM. SVG only agreed to come here over a talented team like the Warriors because he had ALL the power. If this was a Gores move SVG would of said so by now. SVG got screwed by Riley if Gores screwed him and made him look stupid then we would of heard about it.
“The hardest thing to do in this league is to get a proven star,” Van Gundy said Tuesday morning. “It’s just very hard to do. It’s hard to do in free agency, it’s hard to do in trades.
“You get very few opportunities to do it. The guy’s a five-time All-Star, he’s been an All-NBA guy. (He’s one of the) top-15 guys in the league. He’s only 28 years old. We know the injury history. That’s the risk on it, but that risk was worth it because of the talent we’re bringing back.”https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2018/01/30/detroit-pistons-blake-griffin-stan-van-gundy/1079253001/
No one said Gores was talking with other teams. That's not only a straw man you've built but a red herring as well. The idea that the owner will allow a GM to make any move he/she doesn't support is ridiculous, especially in this case where it's a very actively involved owner. I can put the same spin on your quote--this was all Gores' move, and of course SVG has to put a positive spin on it because he's not going to throw his boss under the bus. See how easy that was? Not to mention that you're trying to make a pointless argument over whose decision it ultimately was, and undermined your own argument in doing so. You've said that Gores wanted to make the playoffs but that SVG had a different vision, was against tanking, and made moves to win games while he was here. Now, I'm not a rocket scientist but aren't making the playoffs and making moves to win as many games as possible in an immediate time frame synonymous? I'm pretty sure they are.
But like a said, you've gone off on a tangent to prove that SVG was a bad GM--no argument there--in order to lend credence to the rumor. However SVG being a bad GM in no way, shape or form proves that this offer was actually on the table. You believe it? Fine. And it doesn't matter one bit.
Some of you guys crack me up. Find one little thing to gripe about, in the past no less, and you jump all over it like a group of gossiping old ladies.