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Game 21: Pistons (4-16) @ Blazers (10-11) - Nov. 30 10:00 PM EST
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:37 pm
by ducler
Re: Game 21: Pistons (4-16) @ Lakers (10-11) - Nov. 30 10:00 PM EST
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:46 pm
by Mogolo
Title is wrong ^^ but let's get it !!
Cade should have a good game.. no lock down defender on him
Re: Game 21: Pistons (4-16) @ Blazers (10-11) - Nov. 30 10:00 PM EST
Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 1:32 am
by Pistonrings
While we wait for game time, I want to talk about, BRON BRON.
That situation with Beef Stew had me wondering why I dislike Bron so much, and I finally understand what it is.
This guy has NOT WON A SINGLE TITLE when the organization did it's part by supplying the players he plays with on his team. Miami's front office did squat beside just clear cap space and Bron colluded with other stars to bestow their talents on to the organization. Wade was there, but no guarantee he would have stayed there sat his contract.
So in other words, the players told the organization, "You do nothing, all you need is an arena on the beach where we want to live, so we'll do your job for you. I'll get Bosh and Wade to agree and we'll will give you a couple titles and all you need is to just be in Miami".
Now, compare that to the 04 Pistons title. Chaunce didn't decide what players he would have, the Pistons organization did their job, they put the players on the roster, hired all the coaching. Then Billups, Ben, Rip, Sheed and the rest said, "Hey, here we're are, we find ourselves together, now let's work with what the organization gave us and pull together and become champions".
No way, to me, could Miami's titles ever be as satisfying as our 3 titles. The only time Bron went to a finals when his organization did it's job and Bron had to play with whoever they provided him was his first finals where they were swept by the Spurs, that's it. He's never been to any other finals where his organization actually had all parts doing their jobs and then the players use what the organization provided and they pull together and work to become champions.
So this is why I simply do not respect him and never will. He did the Same in LA and the Cavs one Title with Love and Kyrie because they would have never even had Kyrie had they not been compensated by him leaving.
So for me, I could never be truly satisfied with a title like that. I say, put an asterisk next to his titles. Our 04 team had to work with who was provided by our front office, the coaches and the players then decided they would become champs. Far harder to do.
Re: Game 21: Pistons (4-16) @ Blazers (10-11) - Nov. 30 10:00 PM EST
Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 2:30 am
by Tecmo
I'm too old for late games.
Re: Game 21: Pistons (4-16) @ Blazers (10-11) - Nov. 30 10:00 PM EST
Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 2:34 am
by Pharaoh
Pistonrings wrote:While we wait for game time, I want to talk about, BRON BRON.
That situation with Beef Stew had me wondering why I dislike Bron so much, and I finally understand what it is.
This guy has NOT WON A SINGLE TITLE when the organization did it's part by supplying the players he plays with on his team. Miami's front office did squat beside just clear cap space and Bron colluded with other stars to bestow their talents on to the organization. Wade was there, but no guarantee he would have stayed there sat his contract.
So in other words, the players told the organization, "You do nothing, all you need is an arena on the beach where we want to live, so we'll do your job for you. I'll get Bosh and Wade to agree and we'll will give you a couple titles and all you need is to just be in Miami".
Now, compare that to the 04 Pistons title. Chaunce didn't decide what players he would have, the Pistons organization did their job, they put the players on the roster, hired all the coaching. Then Billups, Ben, Rip, Sheed and the rest said, "Hey, here we're are, we find ourselves together, now let's work with what the organization gave us and pull together and become champions".
No way, to me, could Miami's titles ever be as satisfying as our 3 titles. The only time Bron went to a finals when his organization did it's job and Bron had to play with whoever they provided him was his first finals where they were swept by the Spurs, that's it. He's never been to any other finals where his organization actually had all parts doing their jobs and then the players use what the organization provided and they pull together and work to become champions.
So this is why I simply do not respect him and never will. He did the Same in LA and the Cavs one Title with Love and Kyrie because they would have never even had Kyrie had they not been compensated by him leaving.
So for me, I could never be truly satisfied with a title like that. I say, put an asterisk next to his titles. Our 04 team had to work with who was provided by our front office, the coaches and the players then decided they would become champs. Far harder to do.
One correction there:
Riley & Wade organised it all - not LeBron.
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Re: Game 21: Pistons (4-16) @ Blazers (10-11) - Nov. 30 10:00 PM EST
Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 2:43 am
by mattao313
Titan77 wrote:I'm too old for late games.
It sucks to wait this late to probably watch our guys get stomped lol
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Re: Game 21: Pistons (4-16) @ Blazers (10-11) - Nov. 30 10:00 PM EST
Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 2:48 am
by Tecmo
mattao313 wrote:Titan77 wrote:I'm too old for late games.
It sucks to wait this late to probably watch our guys get stomped lol
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Truth, I'll be responsible and bail early if needed. Work tomorrow!
Re: Game 21: Pistons (4-16) @ Blazers (10-11) - Nov. 30 10:00 PM EST
Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 2:56 am
by bstein14
When the Blazers win tonight, there will be 21 teams in the NBA with a record of .500 or better. That is a pretty crazy stat this far along in the size. 9 teams below .500 and 21 teams at .500 and above.
The losers being Orlando, Detroit, Indiana, and Toronto in the East.
Houston, New Orleans, OKC, San Antonio and Sacramento in the West.
Re: Game 21: Pistons (4-16) @ Blazers (10-11) - Nov. 30 10:00 PM EST
Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 2:58 am
by Pistonrings
Man, another game at the same time, the 18-2 Warriors at the 17-3 suns, damn what game that will be.
Re: Game 21: Pistons (4-16) @ Blazers (10-11) - Nov. 30 10:00 PM EST
Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:02 am
by Pistonrings
Oh man, I forgot about Billups coaching here, but Lillard is out.
Re: Game 21: Pistons (4-16) @ Blazers (10-11) - Nov. 30 10:00 PM EST
Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:03 am
by whitehops
Titan77 wrote:I'm too old for late games.
yeah i'm getting there. at least with the state of the team it's a lot easier to turn the game off after the first quarter or half time.
Re: Game 21: Pistons (4-16) @ Blazers (10-11) - Nov. 30 10:00 PM EST
Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:04 am
by Sort
Pistonrings wrote:Man, another game at the same time, the 18-2 Warriors at the 17-3 suns, damn what game that will be.
If you are in Michigan, a working person in the morning, up late nonetheless to watch some basketball, and then you watch the Pistons play instead of Suns/Warriors, you really should get an autographed jersey for your loyalty.
Re: Game 21: Pistons (4-16) @ Blazers (10-11) - Nov. 30 10:00 PM EST
Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:12 am
by Pistonrings
Special K praising Killian against the Lakers.
Re: Game 21: Pistons (4-16) @ Blazers (10-11) - Nov. 30 10:00 PM EST
Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:13 am
by bstein14
Cade didn't waste any time this game driving picking up his dribble in the air and having no where to go with the ball. Seems like that happens at least once every game.
Re: Game 21: Pistons (4-16) @ Blazers (10-11) - Nov. 30 10:00 PM EST
Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:14 am
by Pistonrings
And a 3 for the first shot, no intent for interior
Re: Game 21: Pistons (4-16) @ Blazers (10-11) - Nov. 30 10:00 PM EST
Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:15 am
by Pistonrings
CADE forces the turnover
Re: Game 21: Pistons (4-16) @ Blazers (10-11) - Nov. 30 10:00 PM EST
Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:17 am
by Pistonrings
I'd rather see Killian or Cade shoot the ft, why Grant?
Re: Game 21: Pistons (4-16) @ Blazers (10-11) - Nov. 30 10:00 PM EST
Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:18 am
by Pistonrings
Cade, the 3, nice
Re: Game 21: Pistons (4-16) @ Blazers (10-11) - Nov. 30 10:00 PM EST
Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:21 am
by Pistonrings
Why no screens and baseline cuts in the post, so frustrating watching this castrated offense.
Re: Game 21: Pistons (4-16) @ Blazers (10-11) - Nov. 30 10:00 PM EST
Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:24 am
by Tecmo
I feel as if Coach Casey doesn't run an offense to maximize player strengths with the exception of iso Grant.