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If we end up keeping Jerami Grant through this trade deadline, he'll be eligible to sign a contract extension (for up to four years) on the date 2 years after he originally signed his contract. He also can sign that extension throughout the last season of his contract.

For Detroit, the decision to keep or let go of Grant could weigh on wether or not he's willing to sign a contract extension with the team. Letting him going into free agency without a deal is always a risk because you could lose him for nothing, or anything team could come in with an offer much bigger than you were expecting.

Grant's contract extension can be for four years, start at 120% of his current deal's final season amount, and have 8% raises per year.

22-23 (Age 28) $20,955,000 is the last year of his deal (next year)
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23-24 (Age 29) $25,146,000 First year max salary of extension
24-25 (Age 30) $27,157,680 Second year with 8% increase off first year
25-26 (Age 31) $29,169,360 Third year of contract extension
26-27 (Age 32) $31,181,040 Final year of 4 year max contract extension
TOTAL $112,654,080 million over 4 seasons or an average of $28,163,520 per year

Of course Grant could always not want to sign an extension because he feels like he could get more on the open market. And perhaps Weaver could also offer an extension for less than the amount above feeling like he wants/needs that cap space for other pieces, but it would be hard to see Grant signing for much less than those numbers... MAYBE you can get him to say yes to something like a 4 year $100 million extension with a flat $25 million per season salary.

No.

No way I want Grant on a max contract. He has value on his current contract and needs to be moved at or before the deadline.

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I would trade Jerami Grant for second rounders before giving him a max extension. He'd be a neutral at best and possible negative asset. Unless he takes another step this year (doesn't appear likely), I wouldn't give him a raise either. We might want to get ahead of it and trade him while he has solid value around the league.

mattao313 wrote:No way I want Grant on a max contract. He has value on his current contract and needs to be moved at or before the deadline.

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This is way below an actual max contract for him... This is the maximum he can sign an extension for.

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mattao313 wrote:No way I want Grant on a max contract. He has value on his current contract and needs to be moved at or before the deadline.

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This is way below an actual max contract for him... This is the maximum he can sign an extension for.

Still too much for a player like him.

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If we don't trade him before the deadline I would assume he likes it here and there's mutual interest in keeping him via an extension. It'd be crazy to let him go for nothing but then again, we do have one more year to also decide when he becomes a true expiring contract, correct?

A 4 years 100 million extension seems super realistic imo.

No thanks

I appreciate Grant and his game, but he's also a starting four that doesn't rebound and his iso game hurts the Pistons as much as it helps them. 20 a year is just about right.

I only read the first sentence of this thread and just... no... hell no.

A max extension for what exactly? 20ppg with barely above 40% shooting and less than 5 boards a game from a 6'8 tweener forward?

Absolutely not!

"Max contract" is easily the most unnecessarily overused term on this forum. It's irritating how people's judgment get clouded from just hearing that term.

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Grant has good games and weeks when he not only cant shot but forgets how to pass.

Grant still is a 3rd banana on a good to great team. Do those guys get 30+ million a year?

If he wont take an extension for a few more years at what is making now or a small raise he needs to be traded at the deadline to a contender for picks and young players. Maybe its still GSW?

this is definitely the "danger zone" of a player's career when it comes to teams investing in players long-term.

there comes a point when the question isn't whether a player is worth a certain salary, it's whether it's worth losing them and having little resources to replace that player.

like if a team doesn't have a ton of cap space and a player like grant is set to become a free agent, the dilemma is whether you re-sign them to big money (because of their bird rights) or sign an MLE-type player because you're capped out when bringing in outside FAs. and as much as you can argue that grant isn't worth his contract, he is definitely better than a kelly olynyk-type player.

that all said, it'd be daft to extend grant after this season. i'd let him hit free agency and be open to bringing him back, depending on salary, what other FAs are available and how the team is developing. trading him before he expires is always an option depending on return, obviously.

1.)Doesn't fit with Cades game.(Ball stopper, ISO player)

2.)Thinks he's the guy that gets the ball when it counts. (Still shooting the techs when Cade is on the floor)

3.)Doesn't fit the timeline.(unless people think the Pistons will be competing for a title in the next 3 years)

I stated in another thread that because of how insanely competitive the league is this season, and how open it appears for a bunch of teams to compete for a title, Grant's trade value will never be higher then it is, right now.

Absolutely no extention of any kind. Trade him for what is going to be a great offer.

edmunder_prc wrote:Grant has good games and weeks when he not only cant shot but forgets how to pass.

Grant still is a 3rd banana on a good to great team. Do those guys get 30+ million a year?

If he wont take an extension for a few more years at what is making now or a small raise he needs to be traded at the deadline to a contender for picks and young players. Maybe its still GSW?

It's kinda odd to ask that question with so much evidence in front of you. $25-$30 million 3rd bananas:

Tobias Harris
Khris Middleton
MPJ
Kyrie
Kyle Lowry
Gordon Hayward

Should I continue?




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I like Grant when he has 34 point games, but he drives me crazy when he is off yet still stops the ball. At Portland he was 4-14, he brought all ball movement to a halt most of the time. He and Bey together that game were 5-22 I think, 2 of our main scorers.

Here's the thing. Weaver wants to build another 04 style team imo. Cade will be the main scorer of that team but he still wants it to be team oriented.

So here's my question: Would Grant fit on that 04 team?

I just don't think he would have. Chauncey, Rip, Tay, Sheed, Ben, these guys were ball movers, smart, hi IQ players that just knew how to involve everyone. So for me, if Grant wouldn't have fit on the 04 team, then I don't think he is what we want for the future team.

But, having said that, he could develope further himself and grow with this team, I don't know. But right now, as he is, he is a ball movement stopper and that's fine when he is pouring in points at a good percentage, but when he isn't, it is very bad for the team overall. Also, he is really a SF, so in fairness to him he is having to defend bigger guys most of the time and we also depend on him for rebounds from a position that is not what he should be playing.

But anyway, just answer the question, would the 04 Pistons and Larry Brown have accepted his play as he is now?

Trade him, trade him, trade him.

DetroitSho wrote:

edmunder_prc wrote:Grant has good games and weeks when he not only cant shot but forgets how to pass.

Grant still is a 3rd banana on a good to great team. Do those guys get 30+ million a year?

If he wont take an extension for a few more years at what is making now or a small raise he needs to be traded at the deadline to a contender for picks and young players. Maybe its still GSW?

It's kinda odd to ask that question with so much evidence in front of you. $25-$30 million 3rd bananas:

Tobias Harris
Khris Middleton
MPJ
Kyrie
Kyle Lowry
Gordon Hayward

Should I continue?




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Mpj, Tobias, are bad contracts and Tobias and the other guys are better players so no not worth it.

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That's a hard pass for me.