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Pistons' RAPTOR stats (from Five Thirty Eight)

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Pistons' RAPTOR stats (from Five Thirty Eight) 

Post#1 » by ElectricMayhem » Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:50 am

Player Off RAPTOR Def RAPTOR Overall RAPTOR (Change from last year)
1. Saben Lee 1.1 5.3 6.3 (+10.4)
2. Kelly Olynyk 0.4 4.3 4.7 (+4.9)
3. Hamidou Diallo 1.3 1.2 2.5 (+3.4)
4. Cory Joseph -2.1 1.9 -0.2 (+0.4)
5. Frank Jackson -0.2 -2.1 -2.3 (-1.3)
6. Isaiah Stewart -3.9 1.5 -2.4 (-3.8)
7. Jerami Grant -1.3 -1.2 -2.5 (-3.1)
8. Josh Jackson -0.4 -2.4 -2.8 (-2.2)
9. Cade Cunningham -2.2 -1.3 -3.5
10. Trey Lyles -0.4 -3.3 -3.6 (+0.9)
11. Killian Hayes -3.7 -0.7 -4.4 (+3.8)
12. Saddiq Bey -2.1 -3.3 -5.4 (-2.1)

Changes from last year:
Stewart was a plus player lasat year. He was a bigger plus on defense and less of a problem with the offense.
Killian Hayes has actually improved a lot. He was -8.2 last year, including -6.6 on offense.
Saddiq Bey was -1.7/-2.4 last year. Both numbers have plummeted.
Jerami Grant was only a slight overall plus last year.

About RAPTOR:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/introducing-raptor-our-new-metric-for-the-modern-nba/

Not saying Jalen Green won't turn things around, but just wanted to point out that he has, by far, the worst overall RAPTOR in the NBA. Of all players that have played at least 300 minutes, Green is 260th/260 with -9.7. Number 259 (Chuma Okele) is at -7.8.
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Re: Pistons' RAPTOR stats (from Five Thirty Eight) 

Post#2 » by bstein14 » Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:24 pm

Not surprised to see Saben Lee and Diallo at the top of our team. Both started out out of the rotation this year, and both have made the best of it when getting in. I was calling for Diallo to replace Bey in the starting lineup before Grant went down. Lee was a bit unimpressive in his early action this season, but after going down to the G League and dominating he came back up and has played really well for us.

Frank Jackson started the season horrible, but likely has been a positive played if you look at his last 10 or so games. Cade is in a similar boat, where he was really negative starting out but as time has gone on he's been better and getting closer to being a positive value player. For him, it he could eliminate 1 TO per game and keep shooting at similar %s as he has the past two weeks it'd likely be a big help in boosting his offensive numbers. Killian being 11th on our team is not surprising at all. I have mentioned he has improved this season for sure, but he still has a long ways to go to be even a slightly below average backup PG in this league. He has improved on reducing his TOs, and he also takes less bad shots such as off the dribble 3 pointers. He's gotten better at picking and choosing the good 3 point shots, which for him is often the corner 3.

Overall, with our record, its not surprising at all that we've got so many negative impact players.
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Re: Pistons' RAPTOR stats (from Five Thirty Eight) 

Post#3 » by Snakebites » Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:00 pm

Our most positive guys are guys who haven’t played the majority of our games.

That makes sense.

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