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Bagley for Josh Jackson and Trey Lyles and multiple 2nds....

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Bagley for Josh Jackson and Trey Lyles and multiple 2nds.... 

Post#1 » by vege » Thu Feb 10, 2022 4:54 pm

I hate is so much. Lyles has been great for us and he is cheap next season. At least we did a trade I guess.
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Post#2 » by keepitrealhomes » Thu Feb 10, 2022 4:56 pm

happy birthday josh jackson! :lol: :lol:
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Post#3 » by bkseven » Thu Feb 10, 2022 4:56 pm

Good trade. Isn't it just one 2nd rounder?
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Post#4 » by detroitKG » Thu Feb 10, 2022 4:57 pm

Love it! an actual lob threat for the guards..for Lyles and Jackson..all day!
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Post#5 » by Piston Pete » Thu Feb 10, 2022 4:57 pm

Kind of agree with vege here.

Lyles has been better than Bagley this season. At worst, it might be a push.

But we throw in JJ and multiple 2nd to boot?
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Post#6 » by smann7 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 4:57 pm

I like that we get a shot at Bagley without being involved in a Grant trade. We also open a roster spot, precursor for another move?
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Post#7 » by theBigLip » Thu Feb 10, 2022 4:58 pm

Time for Bagley to wake up and become worthy of his draft slot
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Post#8 » by GBanga3 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 4:58 pm

Watch people who were desperate for a trade complain about this.

I’m here for it. Some actual height!

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Post#9 » by sfballa13 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:00 pm

Weaver and trading multiple 2nd round picks in every trade he makes - name a better a combo

Was not a fan of Jackson, but Lyles production is as good as Bagley's

Bagley, well regarded as a bust, untouched by nearly any team who was offered him, on an expiring deal is worth a cheap rotation player and multiple 2nds?

And you just know Bagley will be getting at least 3/30M from Detroit this offseason.

Also why not try to move on from Joseph/Olynyk when the Kings are obviously looking to stockpile talent for a playoff run, try to get some cap space free?

I dont care what people say, Weaver is a joke.
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Post#10 » by Snakebites » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:01 pm

We easily acquire/buy second rounders all the time.

I don’t love the trade but it’s hard to get too worked up over what we gave up.

Plus it means I don’t have to see Josh in a Pistons uniform again. That’s a plus.
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Post#11 » by Piston Pete » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:02 pm

sfballa13 wrote:Weaver and trading multiple 2nd round picks in every trade he makes - name a better a combo

Was not a fan of Jackson, but Lyles production is as good as Bagley's

Bagley, well regarded as a bust, untouched by nearly any team who was offered him, on an expiring deal is worth a cheap rotation player and multiple 2nds?

And you just know Bagley will be getting at least 3/30M from Detroit this offseason.

I dont care what people say, Weaver is a joke.


I hope not on 3/30…..ugh

We had a team option on Lyles next season for less than $3 million
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Post#12 » by mattao313 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:02 pm

Low end trade but still seems like we gave to much lol

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Post#13 » by vege » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:03 pm

I would be happy if it was Olynyk and 2nds for Bagley, Lyles for Bagley straight up is a downgrade in production and money, and we're giving up 2 2nds to do that trade. I hope this is our only trade, because Weaver is just clueless.
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Post#14 » by NYPiston » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:03 pm

I don't see any issues with this trade. A bunch of filler for a big guy with upside. Lyles was having a nice season but there's no upside with this player. Don't know how anybody can be upset about this but I'm sure some will be because 2nds are treated as gold around here for some reason.

Also, it's not about who is better this season between Lyles and Bagley so not sure why that's even being brought up. This was clearly a trade made for upside so comparing them this season makes no sense.
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Post#15 » by zeebneeb » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:05 pm

This is a great trade. Absolutely fantastic. If I'm wrong, well, it is what it is, but Bagley desperately needed a change of scenery.

Yes! A true lob threat!

Don't give two **** about 2nd round picks.
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Post#16 » by Scout Taron » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:06 pm

IMO, Lyles + Josh should have been enough. All Pistons GMs since Dumars just love giving up SRPs for no reason. :/
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Post#17 » by The Moose » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:06 pm

I’m pretty meh on what we gave up. Nobody was really wanting to sign Lyles this past offseason and JJ is on his way out of the league. 2nds are not hard to get if you want one come draft time, hell you can just buy one with cash on draft night.

As far as Bagley goes , I don’t have high hopes,BUT he does at least give us a different look/option in the front court rather than the undersized/under athletic rotation we had before. He should be a legit roll man in the pnr and a good lob threat which could open up the offense

It also opens up another roster spot , which can help facilitate a Grant trade
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Post#18 » by stylesofpunk » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:07 pm

I like it

Gives a look at Bagley

Josh Jackson/Trey Lyles were expandable


Olynyk or grant moving next


Bagley/Stewart/Grant/Olynyk/some Bey
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Post#19 » by Snakebites » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:07 pm

I mean, it seems like second rounders are always for sale around draft time if you want one.
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Re: Bagley for Josh Jackson and Trey Lyles and multiple 2nds.... 

Post#20 » by bjones521 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:07 pm

Love the Trade, Lyles wont be here when we are a good team. Bagley possibly might be.

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