Trade the Pick!

[GreekAlex]

I know it might be a hot take but I’m not very excited with this draft outside of Jabari Smith and maybe Jaden Ivey.

I wouldn’t trade the pick for some short sighted win-now player but I’d target someone like Jonathan Kunminga.

He seems like he has way more potential and way less risk than most of this draft class.

2 questions:

1. Are there any other players from the past 2 drafts that you’d want to acquire for our pick?

2. If the Pistons traded for Kunminga, who would be a 3rd team with a win-now piece that could go to the Warriors?

Jalen Brunson
Cade
Bey
Kunminga
Jalen Duren (vía NO pick (Grant to Portland))

That looks like an exciting young team that can develop together.

[chrbal]

I’ll entertain this.

First off we have NO IDEA where our pick is going to land.

1- not that would be a realistic trade option.

2- why do the warriors want to trade him?

[edmunder_prc]

I’ll entertain this.

First off we have NO IDEA where our pick is going to land.

1- not that would be a realistic trade option.

2- why do the warriors want to trade him?

Yeah its tough one - Kuminga seems really good already. But maybe someone wants to tank so they trade their star to Warriors, we get Kuminga and they get the pick?

[chrbal]

I’ll entertain this.

First off we have NO IDEA where our pick is going to land.

1- not that would be a realistic trade option.

2- why do the warriors want to trade him?

Yeah its tough one - Kuminga seems really good already. But maybe someone wants to tank so they trade their star to Warriors, we get Kuminga and they get the pick?

I guess I didn’t read that too thoroughly

[vege]

Kuminga is 19 and he has proven he can be good at NBA level. I wouldn't trade him, unless it's a top 2 or 3 pick, and you don't trade those imo. So it's either a terrible idea for GSW or for us.

[Cowology]

I'd be more likely to trade down for multiple picks, but I'm not a huge fan of anybody at the top of the draft. If I could turn a top 3 pick into say.... Daniels/Sharpe & Duren I'd probably do it. I know the BPA crowd will bash the **** outa me, but in my mind both those guys have huge upside and I really like Duren a bit further down. If you are going to trade down this is probably the year to do it; no real clear cut superstars and lots of talent in the middle of the lottery.

Otherwise I'd would have to be somebody like Donavan Mitchell for me to consider giving up the pick. A young established All-Star.

I doubt many teams would be interested in trading away their 1st/2nd year player for a redo. If they are, it's probably not a player we actually want. Assuming of course that the Kings are done kingmaking.

[GreekAlex]

Kuminga is 19 and he has proven he can be good at NBA level. I wouldn't trade him, unless it's a top 2 or 3 pick, and you don't trade those imo. So it's either a terrible idea for GSW or for us.

Why don’t you trade those?

There’s not 3 players that I unequivocally take over Kunminga.

[tmorgan]

Alex, there’s no N in that name. Stop it, you’re ravaging my OCD.

[vege]

Kuminga is 19 and he has proven he can be good at NBA level. I wouldn't trade him, unless it's a top 2 or 3 pick, and you don't trade those imo. So it's either a terrible idea for GSW or for us.

Why don’t you trade those?

There’s not 3 players that I unequivocally take over Kunminga.

Holmgren/Banchero/Smith have a higher ceiling than Kuminga, but they're all higher risk, since Kuminga is more proven.

[Cowology]

Alex, there’s no N in that name. Stop it, you’re ravaging my OCD.

Well....if you wanna be technical there IS a N in Kuminga.

[tmorgan]

I wouldn’t trade the rights of Ivey or Sharpe for Kuminga, either. So 6th pick is my answer.

JK’s physical profile is amazing, but he didn’t really do anything as a rookie except finish and play some defense. Rough outside scoring, not a passer, not a good rebounder. He’ll grow into it, but all he “proved” so far is that he can overpower people at the rim.

EDIT: he shot a little better than I thought, but not well. Strangely poor rebounder for his size, awful passer.

[GreekAlex]

Alex, there’s no N in that name. Stop it, you’re ravaging my OCD.

Oops

I’m usually good with names

[Laimbeer]

Thrown out on trade board -

#3
Kelly Olynyk

for

#12
#30
Aleksej Pokusevski
Best of 23 OKC/LAC 1st(top 1, then 24 OKC 1st unp)
24 LAC 1st unp

[MotownMadness]

Thrown out on trade board -

#3
Kelly Olynyk

for

#12
#30
Aleksej Pokusevski
Best of 23 OKC/LAC 1st(top 1, then 24 OKC 1st unp)
24 LAC 1st unp

I wouldn't do it, we need to really hope to land a top prospect to pair with Cade and the top of the draft is the best chance at it.

[buzzkilloton]

Warriors know more about Kuminga then anyone. If they were going to trade him to us I would think were losing the deal. This isnt the Kings or something where they dont know about their own players.

Me personally I wouldnt trade a top 3 for him but I would have to consider it at 4. Again though if the Warriors wanted to move him to me for pick 4 I would have to wonder what they know that I dont.

[DBC10]

Thrown out on trade board -

#3
Kelly Olynyk

for

#12
#30
Aleksej Pokusevski
Best of 23 OKC/LAC 1st(top 1, then 24 OKC 1st unp)
24 LAC 1st unp

I wouldn't do it, we need to really hope to land a top prospect to pair with Cade and the top of the draft is the best chance at it.

Yeah, I'd rather risk the chance on a top 3 pick booming as Cade's partner than something lower with likely just being a replacement level player. At least for this years draft. The next one, by all means have at it and trade down

[coolness]

If we get the 1st overall pick, I'm all about trading it with our 2nd for

the 2 Portland 1sts + OKC's LAC 1st, + our future 1st returned from OKC +future 2nd's from Por AND OKC + dumping J.Grant AND K.Olynk on OKC

the 1st's we get from this year would be K.Murray, T.Eason, and K.Brown


Also for trading K.Hayes, H.Diallo, and I.Stewart to NY for their 1st (S.Sharpe) and expirings (K.Walker and T.Gibson) + future 2nd's


I would throw in S.Lee and I.Livers and L.Garza (need to pick up his option) to complete either of the trades above.

[Billl]

This draft doesn't seem to have any "can't miss" prospects, but that doesn't mean there isn't star potential at the top. I wouldn't be trading that lottery ticket for multiple "safe" guys with lower ceilings

[Kalamazoo317]

4 firsts, two of them basically unprotected? Yeah, I'd probably trade #3 and Kelly O for that.

[tmorgan]

Thrown out on trade board -

#3
Kelly Olynyk

for

#12
#30
Aleksej Pokusevski
Best of 23 OKC/LAC 1st(top 1, then 24 OKC 1st unp)
24 LAC 1st unp

I’d obv wait to see who goes 1 and 2, but I’d likely do that. Paolo and Jabari aren’t worth all that. Chet could be, and Chet may be available at 3, so I’d need to think about it. But it’s tempting. OKC’s first will be good next year, they aren’t ready, and whatever rook they take at #3 won’t get them there.