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WOJ: Burks and Noel traded to Pistons

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:46 am
by The Moose
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hopefully we are getting something in return

Re: WOJ: Burks and Noel traded to Pistons

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:49 am
by smann7
Wonder what’s left on their contracts

Re: WOJ: Burks and Noel traded to Pistons

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:49 am
by hsmooth
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Re: WOJ: Burks and Noel traded to Pistons

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:50 am
by Piston Pete
Better be getting a 1st rounder or two with them…

Re: WOJ: Burks and Noel traded to Pistons

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:50 am
by coordinator0
Both have team options for next summer, so it's not long-term salary added. I would think there's some other form of compensation following though. Right?

Re: WOJ: Burks and Noel traded to Pistons

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:51 am
by The Moose
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both have team options so its essentially kicking the can down the road on that cap space

Re: WOJ: Burks and Noel traded to Pistons

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:51 am
by hsmooth
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Re: WOJ: Burks and Noel traded to Pistons

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:52 am
by Piston Pete
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Two 2nd rounders is not enough incentive to take on $19 million.

Didn’t the Knicks get multiple future 1st rounders from trades in this draft?

Re: WOJ: Burks and Noel traded to Pistons

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:53 am
by bstein14
Wow that's a trash return to take on all that salary.... compared to getting the #13 pick for taking on just Kemba.

Re: WOJ: Burks and Noel traded to Pistons

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:53 am
by Snakebites
19 million in cap space for 2 second rounders?

Say it ain’t so, Troy….

Re: WOJ: Burks and Noel traded to Pistons

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:54 am
by bstein14
Gores cashing in getting $6 million to pocket and this gets him to the salary minimum after we pay Bagley. Other teams with FAs (Ayton, Bridges) just got excited because there goes a big chunk of the available cap space that is greater than MLE this summer. Granted, our 2023 2nd rounder and that $6 million could easily buy into the first round but we all know we won't be using it to buy a pick. Gores pocketed cash for taking DeAndre Jordan last year as well. He wants to get his $6 million max in cash each year he can.

Re: WOJ: Burks and Noel traded to Pistons

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:55 am
by Snakebites
That takes a little wind out of my sails, really.

That original deal with the Knicks felt a little too good. Maybe this was a hidden cost?

Re: WOJ: Burks and Noel traded to Pistons

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:55 am
by detroitKG
Both are effectively expiring's as well..I actually really like this

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Re: WOJ: Burks and Noel traded to Pistons

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:56 am
by Manocad
Piston Pete wrote:
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Two 2nd rounders is not enough incentive to take on $19 million.

Didn’t the Knicks get multiple future 1st rounders from trades in this draft?

Minus $6 million in cash.

This trade makes it pretty clear to me that there isn't going to be a big name signing this offseason.

Re: WOJ: Burks and Noel traded to Pistons

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:57 am
by smann7
It’s better than blowing our wad on Bridges

Re: WOJ: Burks and Noel traded to Pistons

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:57 am
by foolinc
Snakebites wrote:That takes a little wind out of my sails, really.

That original deal with the Knicks felt a little too good. Maybe this was a hidden cost?


Seems like it to me. That Duren deal seemed way too good to be true.

Re: WOJ: Burks and Noel traded to Pistons

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:57 am
by Snakebites
detroitKG wrote:Both are effectively expiring's as well..I actually really like this

I was hoping we’d try and sign some shooting this off-season. This puts a real damper on that idea.

I also HATE deals where we have money coming back. That’s effectively the owner leveraging team assets (in this case cap space) for his own pay day.

Re: WOJ: Burks and Noel traded to Pistons

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:58 am
by flow
Is there still a chance for Ayton in all of this?

Re: WOJ: Burks and Noel traded to Pistons

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:59 am
by joeposh
Team options make these flippable contracts if we do a sign and trade during FA but I wouldn't mind keeping Burks for this season's rotation.

Re: WOJ: Burks and Noel traded to Pistons

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:00 am
by The Moose
Snakebites wrote:
detroitKG wrote:Both are effectively expiring's as well..I actually really like this

I was hoping we’d try and sign some shooting this off-season. This puts a real damper on that idea.

I also HATE deals where we have money coming back. That’s effectively the owner leveraging team assets (in this case cap space) for his own pay day.


Burks has shot 40%+ from 3pt in each of the last 3 seasons, I wouldn't be surprised if he's starting if Bey slides to the 4