Russell Westbrook hires Jeff Schwartz (Cade's agent) to be his agent

[bstein14]

Interesting move by Westbrook. Schwartz and the Pistons obviously have a pretty close working relationship. He's also Kemba's agent, Bagley's agent, Olynyk's agent, and DeAndre Jordan's agent (who we traded for and waived last season).

You know Westbrook reportedly fired his last agent because he wanted a trade out of LA so we'll see what Schwartz is able to cook up. We also know Westbrook and Weaver have a relationship together going back to Weaver's days in OKC.

[BadMofoPimp]

I would take him for the league minimum.

[chrbal]

We also know Westbrook has no real value, and that (as odd as this sounds to me) the Lakers are better off hanging onto him even if it’s just a Joh Wall-Rockets situation. Hoping that some team wants him for his expiring contract. Unless it’s the deadline, I doubt that’s Detroit.

Just to get to ~$41 million we’d have to send them Walker, Noel, Burks, and Olynyk. Which actually adds payroll to Detroit and creates 2 roles to fill in probably minimum deals. This trade would have to happen in the preseason and we can’t combine these guys until 2 months after they were acquired, which Kemba just got announced.

Saved by Weavers complicated offseasons.

[Snakebites]

God I sure hope not.

[buzzkilloton]

Hes also Middleton and Drummonds agent! It must be a conspiracy.

https://hoopshype.com/reps/

Oh wait hes by far the biggest agent in the NBA now. He has players all over the place. Who would of thought!

[bstein14]

Hes also Middleton and Drummonds agent! It must be a conspiracy.

https://hoopshype.com/reps/

Oh wait hes by far the biggest agent in the NBA now. He has players all over the place. Who would of thought!

Hes also Middleton and Drummonds agent! It must be a conspiracy.

https://hoopshype.com/reps/

Oh wait hes by far the biggest agent in the NBA now. He has players all over the place. Who would of thought!

He does have more clients than anyone in the NBA, but he also clearly has a close working relationship with our GM and ownership group. The fact that the last two off seasons we signed our two largest contracts on the team (Olynyk and Bagley) and we've also traded for and bought out multiple clients of his. We also worked a buyout with Blake, who is his client as well. So certainly the agent we've done by far the most business with in the Weaver era.

[buzzkilloton]

Hes also Middleton and Drummonds agent! It must be a conspiracy.

https://hoopshype.com/reps/

Oh wait hes by far the biggest agent in the NBA now. He has players all over the place. Who would of thought!

Hes also Middleton and Drummonds agent! It must be a conspiracy.

https://hoopshype.com/reps/

Oh wait hes by far the biggest agent in the NBA now. He has players all over the place. Who would of thought!

He does have more clients than anyone in the NBA, but he also clearly has a close working relationship with our GM and ownership group. The fact that the last two off seasons we signed our two largest contracts on the team (Olynyk and Bagley) and we've also traded for and bought out multiple clients of his. We also worked a buyout with Blake, who is his client as well. So certainly the agent we've done by far the most business with in the Weaver era.

No Blake Griffin was not with this agent when he was bought out by us. He was with Sam Goldfeder. You're now making stuff up to prove your conspiracy and its not the first time I've caught you doing this in a post. I'm not going to fact check everything you say but clearly you need to be fact checked.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31010651/sources-detroit-pistons-blake-griffin-agree-contract-buyout

Detroit finalized a reduction in his remaining salary to gain free agency with Griffin's agent, Sam Goldfeder of Excel Sports, since the sides mutually agreed he would leave the active roster on Feb. 15 awaiting a trade or buyout.

Of course we have a working relationship with the biggest agent in the NBA. So do alot of teams for example the Nuggets two stars Murray/Jokic. You comment like its a surprise the biggest agent would be who we work with the most.

[Pharaoh]

Hes also Middleton and Drummonds agent! It must be a conspiracy.

https://hoopshype.com/reps/

Oh wait hes by far the biggest agent in the NBA now. He has players all over the place. Who would of thought!

Hes also Middleton and Drummonds agent! It must be a conspiracy.

https://hoopshype.com/reps/

Oh wait hes by far the biggest agent in the NBA now. He has players all over the place. Who would of thought!

He does have more clients than anyone in the NBA, but he also clearly has a close working relationship with our GM and ownership group. The fact that the last two off seasons we signed our two largest contracts on the team (Olynyk and Bagley) and we've also traded for and bought out multiple clients of his. We also worked a buyout with Blake, who is his client as well. So certainly the agent we've done by far the most business with in the Weaver era.

No Blake Griffin was not with this agent when he was bought out by us. He was with Sam Goldfeder. You're now making stuff up to prove your conspiracy and its not the first time I've caught you doing this in a post. I'm not going to fact check everything you say but clearly you need to be fact checked.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31010651/sources-detroit-pistons-blake-griffin-agree-contract-buyout

Detroit finalized a reduction in his remaining salary to gain free agency with Griffin's agent, Sam Goldfeder of Excel Sports, since the sides mutually agreed he would leave the active roster on Feb. 15 awaiting a trade or buyout.

Of course we have a working relationship with the biggest agent in the NBA. So do alot of teams for example the Nuggets two stars Murray/Jokic. You comment like its a surprise the biggest agent would be who we work with the most.

Nah it has to be a conspiracy because there's a certain narrative people have about certain players and the FO itself that there's all these dots that "seem" to connect.

Looking back over Weaver's tenure his intentions seem pretty clear to me:

1 - Build through the Draft. He's acquired additional picks in every Draft without sacrificing much of any real value!

2 - Get some real pro vets around them to police the locker room, bus, plane etc

3 - Take shots on former Lottery picks that seem to be at their lowest value wise and see what happens.

4 - Be patient.

We can debate every single move and discuss potential moves but thus far I think it's pretty clear Weaver did/does have a idea what he's doing.

The proof is:

Duren, Stewart, Bags
Bey, Livers, Diallo
Cade, Ivey, Hayes

In NBA terms these guys have barely scratched the surface of what they could be in the "right" situation.

Are we the "right" situation? We haven't been for a long time but that's under previous management

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[bstein14]

Hes also Middleton and Drummonds agent! It must be a conspiracy.

https://hoopshype.com/reps/

Oh wait hes by far the biggest agent in the NBA now. He has players all over the place. Who would of thought!

Hes also Middleton and Drummonds agent! It must be a conspiracy.

https://hoopshype.com/reps/

Oh wait hes by far the biggest agent in the NBA now. He has players all over the place. Who would of thought!

He does have more clients than anyone in the NBA, but he also clearly has a close working relationship with our GM and ownership group. The fact that the last two off seasons we signed our two largest contracts on the team (Olynyk and Bagley) and we've also traded for and bought out multiple clients of his. We also worked a buyout with Blake, who is his client as well. So certainly the agent we've done by far the most business with in the Weaver era.

No Blake Griffin was not with this agent when he was bought out by us. He was with Sam Goldfeder. You're now making stuff up to prove your conspiracy and its not the first time I've caught you doing this in a post. I'm not going to fact check everything you say but clearly you need to be fact checked.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31010651/sources-detroit-pistons-blake-griffin-agree-contract-buyout

Detroit finalized a reduction in his remaining salary to gain free agency with Griffin's agent, Sam Goldfeder of Excel Sports, since the sides mutually agreed he would leave the active roster on Feb. 15 awaiting a trade or buyout.

Of course we have a working relationship with the biggest agent in the NBA. So do alot of teams for example the Nuggets two stars Murray/Jokic. You comment like its a surprise the biggest agent would be who we work with the most.

I was for sure mistaken on that comment. I knew that Drummond and Blake used to both have the same representation (it was mentioned when Blake was traded here)... but they are both Excel Sports clients with two different agents.


And its not a conspiracy theory, its simply stating the fact that we have a strong working relationship with Cade's agent. We also were rumored to have interest in two of his other clients this offseason, in Malik Monk and Victor Oladipo.

[buzzkilloton]

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I was for sure mistaken on that comment. I knew that Drummond and Blake used to both have the same representation (it was mentioned when Blake was traded here)... but they are both Excel Sports clients with two different agents.


And its not a conspiracy theory, its simply stating the fact that we have a strong working relationship with Cade's agent. We also were rumored to have interest in two of his other clients this offseason, in Malik Monk and Victor Oladipo.

I also will mention that Bagley's agent is also Cade's agent and part of the reason that Bagley and Olynyk got over market deals the last two years is likely because we're catering to Cade's agent a bit... rather than trying to squeeze out the absolute best price we can get the guys for. It's the same reason we're willing to take on guys like DeAndre Jordan and Kemba and perhaps give them slightly better buyouts than other teams might, who also both have the same agent as Cade. It'll likely be why next summer we'll hear our team linked to FA's like Tyler Herro and Ayo Dosunmu and why this current summer we were linked to have interest in Malik Monk and Victor Oladipo. It might also be why we simply fully guarantee Olynyk's 3rd year next season rather than cut him for just the $3 million cap hit.

[/quote]



No you're in other threads making the same comments on this conspiracy. This is you saying its because Cade has the same agent as Bagley/Kelly O were giving them more money then they deserve. Now you're here making a thread trying to speculate on the conspiracy more going as far as to make up that we bought out Blake because of this agent.

[buzzkilloton]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31010651/sources-detroit-pistons-blake-griffin-agree-contract-buyout

Detroit finalized a reduction in his remaining salary to gain free agency with Griffin's agent, Sam Goldfeder of Excel Sports, since the sides mutually agreed he would leave the active roster on Feb. 15 awaiting a trade or buyout.


Looking back over Weaver's tenure his intentions seem pretty clear to me:

1 - Build through the Draft. He's acquired additional picks in every Draft without sacrificing much of any real value!

2 - Get some real pro vets around them to police the locker room, bus, plane etc

3 - Take shots on former Lottery picks that seem to be at their lowest value wise and see what happens.

4 - Be patient.

We can debate every single move and discuss potential moves but thus far I think it's pretty clear Weaver did/does have a idea what he's doing.

The proof is:

Duren, Stewart, Bags
Bey, Livers, Diallo
Cade, Ivey, Hayes

In NBA terms these guys have barely scratched the surface of what they could be in the "right" situation.

Are we the "right" situation? We haven't been for a long time but that's under previous management

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Another thing to add in point 3 is hes shown he likes to pay a little extra to lock in the young guys he picks up a bit longer. As reported by Edwards late April we were looking to lock in Bagley for 3 years not the standard 1-2 year prove it deal a young guy like Bagley normally wants. Now we've seen we went a little over what some perceive as market value on Knox to get that TO.

Agreed with the proof. I mean we go into drafts every year "wish we could get extra picks for xxx". Weaver somehow gets it done 2 of 3 drafts turning turds into gold. I mean he just turned Grant and space into Jalen Fkn Duren. SVG would of turned that space into some treadmilling vets and then went on a "I refuse to tank" rant.