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Best article on Saddiq Bey I’ve seen 

Post#1 » by vic » Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:26 pm

I love Saddiq and his work ethic but this article right here gives the best viewpoint on his future and potential:

https://pistonpowered.com/2022/10/17/detroit-pistons-saddiq-bey-emulate/

He needs to quit the Paul George/Adrian Dantley style offense and model his game to be a big Klay Thompson.

I can’t wait until we get a coach that will discipline him into playing this role, because if Saddiq keeps hesitating to shoot and choosing to drive into traffic, he will max out as a bench player.

If he sticks with the Klay Thompson style game he could be a champion right here with the Pistons.
You need 2-way wings, 2-way shooting bigs, and you can't allow low iq players on the court. Assist/turnover ratio is crucial. Shooting point guards are icing on the cake IF they are plus defenders.
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Post#2 » by Uncle Mxy » Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:04 pm

Mentioning Saddiq Bey in the same breath as Dantley?
I don't see anything really Dantley-esque in Bey's play.
I'd love to have someone with Dantley's post abilities.
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Post#3 » by Manocad » Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:57 pm

Spot on IMO. His strength is hitting outside shots. Stick with it in games and work on driving the lane in practice. He doesn't have the athletic ability or the handle to do the "Well, my outside shot isn't dropping; better be a 'drive first' player this game" thing. If his outside shot isn't dropping he basically should be on the bench.
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Post#4 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:45 pm

If he had Dantley's foul shooting routine before taking foul shots, then I could see the comparison

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Post#5 » by tradez401 » Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:11 pm

I agree Bey should go back to what he was doin in his rookie season being a spot up shooter. Also maybe lose some weight to be quicker on defense.
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Post#6 » by vic » Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:01 pm

Uncle Mxy wrote:Mentioning Saddiq Bey in the same breath as Dantley?
I don't see anything really Dantley-esque in Bey's play.
I'd love to have someone with Dantley's post abilities.


That’s kind of my point. It seems like Saddiq is trying to be something he’s not. He attacks from the wing then gets stuck trying to pivot in the paint like Adrian Dantley but it doesn’t work out.

He needs to shoot the open 3, score on cuts, attack the gaps that go all the way to the rim… resimplify his game.
You need 2-way wings, 2-way shooting bigs, and you can't allow low iq players on the court. Assist/turnover ratio is crucial. Shooting point guards are icing on the cake IF they are plus defenders.
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Post#7 » by DBC10 » Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:38 pm

Agreed, although he has a ways to go before he can have anywhere near the impact of a Klay Thompson. Getting open, finding the right open shot, using screens, aka running around wreaking havoc on defenses is also an acquired skill that needs honing

If he can be a better off ball player and be a smarter player, he can definitely take a next step in being more than just an average starter
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Post#8 » by whitehops » Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:56 pm

he's trying to expand his game and the team isn't measuring this season by wins. it's the perfect situation for him to try to create more on-ball, even if it is ugly at times to watch.

what's the point of developing players if you tell them to stick solely to what they're already good at?
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Post#9 » by FloridaMan78 » Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:17 pm

whitehops wrote:he's trying to expand his game and the team isn't measuring this season by wins. it's the perfect situation for him to try to create more on-ball, even if it is ugly at times to watch.

what's the point of developing players if you tell them to stick solely to what they're already good at?


While I agree to certain extent, and it is preseason, there comes a point where it negatively effects the rest of the team.

Cade and Ivey are also developing. Honing their passing is a big part of their game. And if Bey passes up threes to test out his inside game, then that’s a negative to them.

Take the shot, fake and drive, fake, drive and kick. The passing up shots to iso is not good offense for Bey IMO.
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Post#10 » by Sort » Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:21 pm

whitehops wrote:he's trying to expand his game and the team isn't measuring this season by wins. it's the perfect situation for him to try to create more on-ball, even if it is ugly at times to watch.

what's the point of developing players if you tell them to stick solely to what they're already good at?



That he is losing a large amount of effectiveness of being a winning NBA basketball player. I don't mind iso-Bey when the shot clock is dwindling, but otherwise, the be-like-Klay makes a lot of sense to me.
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Post#11 » by whitehops » Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:42 pm

Sort wrote:That he is losing a large amount of effectiveness of being a winning NBA basketball player. I don't mind iso-Bey when the shot clock is dwindling, but otherwise, the be-like-Klay makes a lot of sense to me.

FloridaMan78 wrote:While I agree to certain extent, and it is preseason, there comes a point where it negatively effects the rest of the team.

Cade and Ivey are also developing. Honing their passing is a big part of their game. And if Bey passes up threes to test out his inside game, then that’s a negative to them.

Take the shot, fake and drive, fake, drive and kick. The passing up shots to iso is not good offense for Bey IMO.


that's usually the progression of how a player's development happens. they try to expand their game, struggle along the way and when it becomes apparent it's not gonna happen then they revert back to being a "star in their role". we all witnessed it with jerami grant, he made the jump to being a first option by default for us and when it was clear he wasn't good enough to be a first option for a good team he took a back seat to cade. in portland he's likely to be a third option behind lillard and simons.

it's a pivotal year for bey but i think we need to at least give him the chance to be the secondary option.
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Post#12 » by Manocad » Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:15 pm

whitehops wrote:he's trying to expand his game and the team isn't measuring this season by wins. it's the perfect situation for him to try to create more on-ball, even if it is ugly at times to watch.

what's the point of developing players if you tell them to stick solely to what they're already good at?

Because the team doesn't need him to be an iso player. They need someone who can hit outside shots.
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Post#13 » by whitehops » Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:47 pm

Manocad wrote:Because the team doesn't need him to be an iso player. They need someone who can hit outside shots.

did casey or weaver tell you what the team needs?
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Post#14 » by Uncle Mxy » Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:08 pm

whitehops wrote:we all witnessed it with jerami grant, he made the jump to being a first option by default for us and when it was clear he wasn't good enough to be a first option for a good team he took a back seat to cade.

Grant was our best player at the point that he tore his thumb up. Remember how brutally awful Cade was at the start of the season? By the time Grant came back after being out two months, Cade was playing better and Grant was getting back into playing shape.
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Post#15 » by Uncle Mxy » Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:09 pm

Manocad wrote:Because the team doesn't need him to be an iso player. They need someone who can hit outside shots.

A little defense wouldn't hurt...
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Post#16 » by zeebneeb » Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:10 pm

whitehops wrote:
Manocad wrote:Because the team doesn't need him to be an iso player. They need someone who can hit outside shots.

did casey or weaver tell you what the team needs?
This gets into the "your not a ____ so you have no idea..." realm of discussion.

Ivey and Cade, especially Cade, can get into the lane seemingly at will, there is no need for Bey, who is really sloppy with his handle, to do so as well, as much as he's trying to do.

Bey could end up leading the team is scoring, if he took the open shot, or moved until he got one, or repositioned himself.

It's also obvious that the team needs shooters, who will shoot every single time, to help spread the floor. These are obvious things. I also don't want Bojan trying to drive more then he shoots either. If Bey starts hoisting non-stop, it will get guys running at him full force, and open up the lane, unguarded unlike now.
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Post#17 » by NYPiston » Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:39 pm

Bey is suffering from a bit of an identity crisis, he's struggling to find his niche in this league.
Instead of trying to play like a star, he needs to simplify his game and focus on what he does best which is shooting 3's.

With two high level facilitators in Cade and Ivey, he needs to stop handling the ball and just get open for those other guys. He should try to emulate what his fellow Villanova alum in Mikhail Bridges has become and stop trying to be Devin Booker.
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Post#18 » by keepitrealhomes » Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:44 pm

I agree, and I’ve been saying this since the end of last season.

I also think it’s hilarious how Bey has become the board’s official public enemy #1 :lol:
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Post#19 » by Manocad » Wed Oct 19, 2022 5:09 pm

whitehops wrote:
Manocad wrote:Because the team doesn't need him to be an iso player. They need someone who can hit outside shots.

did casey or weaver tell you what the team needs?

No, common sense did.
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Post#20 » by Manocad » Wed Oct 19, 2022 5:10 pm

Uncle Mxy wrote:
Manocad wrote:Because the team doesn't need him to be an iso player. They need someone who can hit outside shots.

A little defense wouldn't hurt...

No doubt about that.
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